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Diesel vs gas......................

blt2ski
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OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.



Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty
92 Navistar dump truck, 7.3L 7 sp, 4.33 gears with a Detroit no spin
2014 Chevy 1500 Dual cab 4x4
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Hannibal
Explorer
Explorer
Good point John. And I've done a comparison between a 2003 SO Cummins Ram and an identical 2005 Hemi powered 2500HD. If I were deaf and didn't have a tachometer, I wouldn't know the difference towing our 10,400 lb Jayco 5th wheel. The Hemi would actually tow it faster up the grades although it was at 5k rpm/70mph. I usually set cruise at 65 in the interstates and 60 on the back roads and let it shift and do it's thing. The Hemi from direct to second and the Cummins from O/D to direct on the uphills. One shifted as much as the other. Never hurt a thing. Cringe factor is not an engine weakness or transmission problem. More of a mental problem.:B
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bkirkpatrick
Explorer
Explorer
How has the Twin Turbo Ford held up? Any MPG issues?

BlackSilver
Explorer
Explorer
Jarlaxle wrote:
Right up until the HPFP grenades and you discover the repair will cost $15,000+.


Nobody said it was cheap. They just said it was good.
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Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
Right up until the HPFP grenades and you discover the repair will cost $15,000+.
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08BowTie
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Explorer
Everyone is getting way too tachnical on this issue. Just go to YouTube and search for Diesel vs Gas towing. Watch some real life tests and the results speak for themselves...there's just no comparison. It's the whole reason the big 3 have produced diesel engines for so many years. If you're pulling wieght, Diesel is better....every time...period.
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cefloyd_1961
Explorer
Explorer
Just got rid of my 04 hd2500 Gas 6.0 for a 06 Ford F350 superduty the millage on my old truck was this pulling my 5er i got 5mpg around town 10 hwy 12 on my Ford I get 11 pulling my camper 17 around town and 22 hwy interstate Gas here is like 3.70 a gal and diesel is 3.95 go 30 miles down the road and its 3.65 gas and 3.83 diesel but I love the power my Ford has pulling over the hd2500
2006 f350 superduty 6.0.. 2012 sandpiper 345RET loaded

drfife
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Explorer
Crazyfoe wrote:
Gas and diesel suck! Electric is where it's at now....Go Green or stay home....


Donn't kid yourself, it takes some form of energy to generate the electricity. Those power plants pollute just like gas and diesel engines.
Russell
'12 GMC Sierra 3500HD SRW
'13 Excel Winslow 34IKE

rvert10
Explorer
Explorer
rvert10 wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:
Because summer diesel will turn to jello in the cold weather!


Then why not leave the anti-gell agent in during the summer?



Hey, thanks for the enlightenment. I did some research and based on what you have stated its also an EPA requirement for diesel and gasoline.
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Hannibal
Explorer
Explorer
Take your hand dandy time machine back to 1970 and invest heavily into big oil. Then you'll be ecstatic about the high prices. It's capitalism. Both R and D capitalize from it. If you're on the winning side, you love it. If you're on the losing side, you're like me and paying through the roof to feed your HD pickup.
2020 F250 STX CC SB 7.3L 10spd 3.55 4x4
2010 F250 XLT CC SB 5.4L 5spdTS 3.73
ex '95 Cummins,'98 12v Cummins,'01.5 Cummins,'03 Cummins; '05 Hemi
2017 Jayco 28RLS TT 32.5'

BlackSilver
Explorer
Explorer
SeattleFire wrote:
Go back to the second post overall on this endless thread. $1.55 a gallon for diesel on 06/21/04. That price has nearly TRIPLED in less than eight years. Would love some stats from someone much more educated than myself on the numbers from our current "administration".


FWIW, I fueled up with diesel here in Cheyenne yesterday evening for $3.979/gal. Four years ago, summer of 08 under a different "administration", diesel prices peaked at $4.771/gal.

Has little or nothing to do with politics.

Sorry to spoil your rant.
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Master Chief Radioman, US Navy
Heartland Big Country camping trailer
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SeattleFire
Explorer
Explorer
Go back to the second post overall on this endless thread. $1.55 a gallon for diesel on 06/21/04. That price has nearly TRIPLED in less than eight years. Would love some stats from someone much more educated than myself on the numbers from our current "administration".

The_Mad_Norsky
Explorer
Explorer
rvert10 wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:
Because summer diesel will turn to jello in the cold weather!


Then why not leave the anti-gell agent in during the summer?


As Jarlaxle said, cost is a factor, besides you do not need it in warmer weather anyway.

#2 diesel will generally work OK until temperatures start dropping below 15 degrees F on a constant basis. Then one can still run the #2 in the tank, but had better add some anti-gel additives to it for those times when it really drops at night to 0 degrees or colder.
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Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
Because antigel is not free!
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

rvert10
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Explorer
Jarlaxle wrote:
Because summer diesel will turn to jello in the cold weather!


Then why not leave the anti-gell agent in during the summer?
2015 Chevy Silverado DRW,6spd auto, Exhaust break,
35' Teton Home Experience 3 slides, its not a trailer its a home
5500 watt generator
and a beautiful Co-piolet

Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
Because summer diesel will turn to jello in the cold weather!
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion