Does this look right?

[Carhlr]

Well other than have the wrong Bars(800lb) how does my set up look? I'm calling rv dealer tomorrow and having him get me 1200lb bars and dual cam system. I have one friction sway bar now and was thinking of adding one to the other side but after obsessing about this for the last 24 hours I think it's the only way to go. I really cant stress how impressed I am with this truck. There is NO comparison to any other 1/2 ton ive ever owned. 2014 f150 supercrew 3.5 v6 ecoboost Max tow 4x4 145wb 1864 payload. I have yet to hit a CAT scale but I will be doing that soon and posting numbers. I'd also like to thank all of you for the wealth of information here it's been a great deal of help.

[2500_Grunt]

jerem0621 wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

penguin149 wrote:
Not trying to hijack this thread, but if the GVWR of the TT is 7900# and it's loaded to say 7000#; if the optimal hitch weight is 13-15% of the TT weight, that would be 900-1100# (give or take) plus what ever is loaded behind the rear axle in the bed. Wouldn't he be WAY over the capacity of the 800# bars?

This question is for my education as much as anything so don't beat me up!!

Yes that is why he stated he was making the dealer switch the bars out to 1200# ones. His actual weight is going to be around 7500+/- a few hundred lbs.

Yes, and as a side note...I`ve never seen a 1000lb trunnion bar, only in a round bar!

Curt

Sorry friend.. I couldn't resist! 😄

Jeremiah

Blue Ox.

[Carhlr]

Bob Landry wrote:
Towing capacity and payload capacity are two entirely different numbers, but the RV salesmen do not want to talk about that. I'm also amazed at the people who come on here and post about their trailer and 1/2 ton truck and then ask, after the fact, if it will work.

I am well within the ratings of what the truck can handle my original post was geared more toward hitch set up I'm loosing the friction sway and going with the dual cam even with this set up it pulls great it's just not perfect and I will settle for no less

[Bob_Landry]

Towing capacity and payload capacity are two entirely different numbers, but the RV salesmen do not want to talk about that. I'm also amazed at the people who come on here and post about their trailer and 1/2 ton truck and then ask, after the fact, if it will work.

[alexleblanc]

fla-gypsy wrote:
Everyone's comfort level is different. The truck can safely tow that TT with the proper caution.

I beg to differ, I towed it with my F150 for 2000km's over 3 trips, Simply too much for a 7700gvwr F150, I think the frontal area and total length was really pushing what that platform can handle for a bumper pull. My particular truck had LT tires and airbags as well. Went to the scales and even with the WD properly setup, I was still 200lbs over the rear axle's GAWR and the reason why I decided to move on up to a SD.

Most F150 guy's won't admit to being overweight when they are because that fantastic EB/3.73 drivetrain will pull just about anything damn well - it's really the platform that was not heavy enough imo.

[Need-A-Vacation]

From the pic as mentioned, it looks pretty darn good!

But I have a question I am surprised hasn't been asked yet. It looks like you have trunnion bars, correct? If so, it looks like you do not have enough head tilt for sharp turns since it looks like you have a top mounted coupler. Though this is very hard to tell from the pic.

[jerem0621]

dodge guy wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

penguin149 wrote:
Not trying to hijack this thread, but if the GVWR of the TT is 7900# and it's loaded to say 7000#; if the optimal hitch weight is 13-15% of the TT weight, that would be 900-1100# (give or take) plus what ever is loaded behind the rear axle in the bed. Wouldn't he be WAY over the capacity of the 800# bars?

This question is for my education as much as anything so don't beat me up!!

Yes that is why he stated he was making the dealer switch the bars out to 1200# ones. His actual weight is going to be around 7500+/- a few hundred lbs.

Yes, and as a side note...I`ve never seen a 1000lb trunnion bar, only in a round bar!

Curt

Sorry friend.. I couldn't resist! 😄

Jeremiah

[dodge_guy]

fla-gypsy wrote:

penguin149 wrote:
Not trying to hijack this thread, but if the GVWR of the TT is 7900# and it's loaded to say 7000#; if the optimal hitch weight is 13-15% of the TT weight, that would be 900-1100# (give or take) plus what ever is loaded behind the rear axle in the bed. Wouldn't he be WAY over the capacity of the 800# bars?

This question is for my education as much as anything so don't beat me up!!

Yes that is why he stated he was making the dealer switch the bars out to 1200# ones. His actual weight is going to be around 7500+/- a few hundred lbs.

Yes, and as a side note...I`ve never seen a 1000lb trunnion bar, only in a round bar!

[fla-gypsy]

alexleblanc wrote:
you might be in over your head a little bit. I upgraded to a similar size TT last summer, did two trips and upgraded the TV afterwards. The Ecoboost F150 has no issue whatsoever pulling the TT down the road, but the F150 platform was simply not heavy duty enough for that long and heavy of a TT imho.

I would at minimum look at a Hensley Arrow or Propride 3P, I had the Reese Dual Cam with 1200lb bars and honestly, it was not enough.

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Everyone's comfort level is different. The truck can safely tow that TT with the proper caution.

[fla-gypsy]

penguin149 wrote:
Not trying to hijack this thread, but if the GVWR of the TT is 7900# and it's loaded to say 7000#; if the optimal hitch weight is 13-15% of the TT weight, that would be 900-1100# (give or take) plus what ever is loaded behind the rear axle in the bed. Wouldn't he be WAY over the capacity of the 800# bars?

This question is for my education as much as anything so don't beat me up!!

Yes that is why he stated he was making the dealer switch the bars out to 1200# ones. His actual weight is going to be around 7500+/- a few hundred lbs.

[penguin149]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but if the GVWR of the TT is 7900# and it's loaded to say 7000#; if the optimal hitch weight is 13-15% of the TT weight, that would be 900-1100# (give or take) plus what ever is loaded behind the rear axle in the bed. Wouldn't he be WAY over the capacity of the 800# bars?

This question is for my education as much as anything so don't beat me up!!

[alexleblanc]

you might be in over your head a little bit. I upgraded to a similar size TT last summer, did two trips and upgraded the TV afterwards. The Ecoboost F150 has no issue whatsoever pulling the TT down the road, but the F150 platform was simply not heavy duty enough for that long and heavy of a TT imho.

I would at minimum look at a Hensley Arrow or Propride 3P, I had the Reese Dual Cam with 1200lb bars and honestly, it was not enough.

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[dodge_guy]

pappcam wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Looks good to me. If anything I like to have a little bit of tilt to the front for a conventional trailer.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

A level trailer keeps an even load on all tires and axles. There's absolutely no reason to have the trailer not level.

It`s proven that just slightly nose down will tow better than level and way better then nose high! and it doesn`t matter at what angle the trailer is at, if it has leafsprings with a spring equalizer the load on both axles will be equal.

[pappcam]

FishOnOne wrote:
Looks good to me. If anything I like to have a little bit of tilt to the front for a conventional trailer.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

A level trailer keeps an even load on all tires and axles. There's absolutely no reason to have the trailer not level.

[fla-gypsy]

Bob Landry wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

Bob Landry wrote:
If the OP is asking if it looks right, basing it on the truck and trailer both being level, yes it looks "right". However, having towed a heavy rig with a Tundra, I would like to know what the front fender height it both unhitched and hitched. The Tundra manual says to return the front to the original height with no reference at all to the rear. If he used the WD to just to get the truck to sit level, then the front axle is likely overloaded, and that would not be right. Too many people think the purpose of WD is to level the TV and that's not it at all.

The Ford does not have the same requirement for restoring weight on the front (Ford minimum is 1/2) as your Tundra. His truck has a payload of 1800+ lbs. His trailer is 6600# dry with a GVWR of 9525#. It is very unlikely he will add 3k to the trailer but even if he did the TW would max out around 1200# still leaving 600# for passengers, etc. His F-150 EB (Max Tow) is not your Tundra. He has matched it up pretty good for a 1/2 ton and larger TT.

I said having towed with a Tundra, not towing with one now and his picture at first looked like the Tundra, not the EB F150, so that was my mistake. My point is/was , the same as TerryAllen's, that is not knowing any weights or measurements, I question how everyone can say it looks "right" with only a photo of the truck and trailer. The truck is still a F150, and there should be some noticeable squat in the rear of the truck even with properly adjusted bars. With no indication of that, I had to ask, and still have to ask, was the WD used only to level the truck and the weight returned to the front axle, with no mention of payload or towing capacity numbers. Obviously, unlike many members on this forum, my eye is not calibrated to the degree necessary to make that determination from a photo. That is why I said, if the only factor was the truck being level, it looked right..

From OP's previous thread;

"Well I did it 2014 f150 super crew 4x4 3.5 eco 3.73 elec diff. elec sway control Max Tow Pkg I pick it up monday can't wait to pull with this thing, should do the job. TT is a 2013 shadow cruiser 314tsb 6650 dry. I traded my 2010 1500 Silverado crew 4x4 this F150 has WAY more payload. This is gonna be fun."

OP's truck is a 2014 F-150 EB with Max tow (stated payload 1875)
TT is 2013 Shadow Cruiser 314TSB, 6650 dry, GVWR 9525 (I looked it up). My response was based on this information. If the OP did not state all of it accurately then my opinion is null and void. Your right the photo alone is not enough, so I did some digging.