Reisender wrote:map40 wrote:Reisender wrote:
For what it’s worth, 7 years ago when we bought our first EV it was 4 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Now it’s 6 times, and that is being conservative.
Our cross Canada trip pulling our little trailer behind our EV would have been easily four times as much if we had been pulling it with our old grand Cherokee. The phone APP tracks all that.
To each his own and I have nothing against gas or diesel vehicles. They work well in many situations. But I would never go back. At least not for our needs. Diesel rules for heavy towing but in the near future electric will do fine in the RV world for those with smaller, lighter and lower profile trailers.
Jmho.
Thanks for sharing! How did the towing affected the range?
As I said from the beginning, EVs are good for some people and some applications. And in those cases they are ADDICTIVE because they are so good.
Not everybody falls in this category, but to understand it you have to forget politics, preconceptions and ideologies, and simply evaluate facts.
Good morning Map40. It pretty much cuts the range in half. We didn’t have this trailer when we had our grand Cherokee but this kind of load pretty much did the same to our grand cherokees range. It did have about 60 kilometres greater range though. But it was a total gutless pig compared to this one. And it stunk like hell when it heated up. And with this tow vehicle we never worry about hot breaks, even on 13 percent grades. The regen looks after pretty much all the braking.
Happy trails.
Thanks for the info! I was expecting something in that range. Happy to see it works for you!
Reisender wrote:d1h wrote:
So if EV's are supposed to be replacing ICE vehicles why are they still building these huge gas stations with multiple lanes of gas pumps?
I would think it’s a 30 to 40 year transition. People need fuel. Norway is well on its way to selling only electric but they have pretty much the same amount of gas stations. They all just have a half dozen or a dozen DC fast chargers now as well. That’s actually getting really common up here in BC. Chevron, Esso, Petro Canada, Shell. They are all adding fast chargers REALLY FAST. I would say just in the last month there are probably 30 more locations of DC fast chargers at the various brands of stations. Quite often the gas price is displayed close to the Electric price.
Other countries have a different reality. Shorter distances help a lot. In NA the question is if the providers move forward with the installation now or if they wait for the next technology. 350kw is the current maximum, but for USA and Canada 500kw or more would make it more convenient. In the meantime, in a lot of European countries they don't care for anything over 250kw.
It is a long road ahead. If EVs fit your lifestyle they are incredibly superior to ICEs; but if it doesn't, EVs are a PITA. I can tell you, I have had EVs for over 10 years, and there are a lot of people that asked me which one they should buy and I told them "None", because EVs were not for them.
d1h wrote:
So if EV's are supposed to be replacing ICE vehicles why are they still building these huge gas stations with multiple lanes of gas pumps?
I would think it’s a 30 to 40 year transition. People need fuel. Norway is well on its way to selling only electric but they have pretty much the same amount of gas stations. They all just have a half dozen or a dozen DC fast chargers now as well. That’s actually getting really common up here in BC. Chevron, Esso, Petro Canada, Shell. They are all adding fast chargers REALLY FAST. I would say just in the last month there are probably 30 more locations of DC fast chargers at the various brands of stations. Quite often the gas price is displayed close to the Electric price.
map40 wrote:Reisender wrote:
For what it’s worth, 7 years ago when we bought our first EV it was 4 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Now it’s 6 times, and that is being conservative.
Our cross Canada trip pulling our little trailer behind our EV would have been easily four times as much if we had been pulling it with our old grand Cherokee. The phone APP tracks all that.
To each his own and I have nothing against gas or diesel vehicles. They work well in many situations. But I would never go back. At least not for our needs. Diesel rules for heavy towing but in the near future electric will do fine in the RV world for those with smaller, lighter and lower profile trailers.
Jmho.
Thanks for sharing! How did the towing affected the range?
As I said from the beginning, EVs are good for some people and some applications. And in those cases they are ADDICTIVE because they are so good.
Not everybody falls in this category, but to understand it you have to forget politics, preconceptions and ideologies, and simply evaluate facts.
Good morning Map40. It pretty much cuts the range in half. We didn’t have this trailer when we had our grand Cherokee but this kind of load pretty much did the same to our grand cherokees range. It did have about 60 kilometres greater range though. But it was a total gutless pig compared to this one. And it stunk like hell when it heated up. And with this tow vehicle we never worry about hot breaks, even on 13 percent grades. The regen looks after pretty much all the braking.
Happy trails.
Reisender wrote:
For what it’s worth, 7 years ago when we bought our first EV it was 4 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Now it’s 6 times, and that is being conservative.
Our cross Canada trip pulling our little trailer behind our EV would have been easily four times as much if we had been pulling it with our old grand Cherokee. The phone APP tracks all that.
To each his own and I have nothing against gas or diesel vehicles. They work well in many situations. But I would never go back. At least not for our needs. Diesel rules for heavy towing but in the near future electric will do fine in the RV world for those with smaller, lighter and lower profile trailers.
Jmho.
Thanks for sharing! How did the towing affected the range?
As I said from the beginning, EVs are good for some people and some applications. And in those cases they are ADDICTIVE because they are so good.
Not everybody falls in this category, but to understand it you have to forget politics, preconceptions and ideologies, and simply evaluate facts.
For what it’s worth, 7 years ago when we bought our first EV it was 4 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Now it’s 6 times, and that is being conservative.
Our cross Canada trip pulling our little trailer behind our EV would have been easily four times as much if we had been pulling it with our old grand Cherokee. The phone APP tracks all that.
To each his own and I have nothing against gas or diesel vehicles. They work well in many situations. But I would never go back. At least not for our needs. Diesel rules for heavy towing but in the near future electric will do fine in the RV world for those with smaller, lighter and lower profile trailers.
Jmho.
Our cross Canada trip pulling our little trailer behind our EV would have been easily four times as much if we had been pulling it with our old grand Cherokee. The phone APP tracks all that.
To each his own and I have nothing against gas or diesel vehicles. They work well in many situations. But I would never go back. At least not for our needs. Diesel rules for heavy towing but in the near future electric will do fine in the RV world for those with smaller, lighter and lower profile trailers.
Jmho.
