F-150 3.0 diesel Pictures

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

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For the guys that where slamming Ram for going with the VM 3.0 in house diesel, Ford is going with a 3.0 diesel made by Range Rover owned by Tata Motors.

Let the spinning begin boys lol

Don

BTW I still think this truck is going to be a huge seller for Ford. Most half ton truck buyers are not towing heavy RV's.

[RobertRyan]

carringb wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

That will increase. Cummins is being pushed out of the OTR market in the US.

Cummins market share is doing just fine....

http://www.ccjdigital.com/cummins-detroit-make-up-more-than-half-of-market-last-year/

I hope so, but Scania/ MAN want in their case MAN engines in Navistar Trucks.
Still Cummins is used mainly in Australian Kenworths and as an alternative for IVECO Powerstar Trucks. IVECO has come out with a 16ltre 775hp engine in 2014, but no application so far in a OTR truck

[carringb]

RobertRyan wrote:

That will increase. Cummins is being pushed out of the OTR market in the US.

Cummins market share is doing just fine....

http://www.ccjdigital.com/cummins-detroit-make-up-more-than-half-of-market-last-year/

[RobertRyan]

Ductape wrote:
Saw a bunch of Iveco trucks in Alaska and western Canada. Built up as 4x4 campers. I'd like to have one with the 3L diesel.

Slap a Ford emblem on the hood, I don't care...

They will eventually be brought in as it is the growth division for Fiat

[RobertRyan]

fx2tom wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
Don that is interesting ,with so many builders going to 'in house ' engines what will become of cummins?

Over the road class 8 trucks are doing the same.
freightliner - mercedes
volvo /mack - volvo
PACCAR might the only one with a selection?

You can still get a Freightliner with a Cummins, though they try REAL hard to steer you out of it

PACCAR (Peterbilt/Kenworth) is the same - you can get a Cummins but they push those PACCAR engines big time. Problem is they won't release their full software to the public so most diagnostics have to be done at the dealer. I don't pay 7 mechanics just to take it back to the dealer, I'll stick with the Cummins as long as I can get it in a truck. Though the Volvos and Macks I have (4 - 2013 Volvos, 3 2014 Volvos, 4 2015 Volvos and 4 2016 MACKS) seem to pretty good so far.

Anything is better than the 10 2010 CATs I have...only 4 stil run :S

Anyways, got WAY off track....

That will increase. Cummins is being pushed out of the OTR market in the US. DAF engine that has become the PACCAR engine, will be pushed even more. When Scania/MAN eventually takeover Navistar, it will be worse,all MAN engines

[Ductape]

Saw a bunch of Iveco trucks in Alaska and western Canada. Built up as 4x4 campers. I'd like to have one with the 3L diesel.

Slap a Ford emblem on the hood, I don't care...

[ShinerBock]

RobertRyan wrote:

So you hate yourself? Well that clarifies it. So everyone who disagrees with you is Posting false information, but your false info is ok?

Nope never said that, but if putting words in my mouth helps you sleep better at night then go nuts. Your info is still false and you haven't shown a shred of proof backing it up like I have. In fact, the only evidence you posted proved what I said that the Iveco and Cummins 6.7l engines aren't "basically the same".

[RobertRyan]

ShinerBock wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

You have a vast hated for anyone on this message board who disagrees with you.Does not matter if they were born in the US
Bore and strokes for the various versions of the IVECO vary, the original engine for both was a 5.9 engine which was very similar .

No, I have a disdain for people purposely posting false information. I can see accidentally doing it and correcting yourself, but you just keep on posting false info even when presented with facts. Now you are talking about the 5.9L being similar when the discussion was about the 6.7L.

RobertRyan wrote:


Do not blame the OP, you wandered off into talking about a Cummins 6.7

Nope, Look again buddy boy, you and the OP mentioned Cummins and Iveco long before I did. I was just correcting the false information you posted.

So you hate yourself? Well that clarifies it. So everyone who disagrees with you is Posting false information, but your false info is ok?

[ShinerBock]

fx2tom wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
Don that is interesting ,with so many builders going to 'in house ' engines what will become of cummins?

Over the road class 8 trucks are doing the same.
freightliner - mercedes
volvo /mack - volvo
PACCAR might the only one with a selection?

You can still get a Freightliner with a Cummins, though they try REAL hard to steer you out of it

PACCAR (Peterbilt/Kenworth) is the same - you can get a Cummins but they push those PACCAR engines big time. Problem is they won't release their full software to the public so most diagnostics have to be done at the dealer. I don't pay 7 mechanics just to take it back to the dealer, I'll stick with the Cummins as long as I can get it in a truck. Though the Volvos and Macks I have (4 - 2013 Volvos, 3 2014 Volvos, 4 2015 Volvos and 4 2016 MACKS) seem to pretty good so far.

Anything is better than the 10 2010 CATs I have...only 4 stil run :S

Anyways, got WAY off track....

International also uses Cummins. A lot of the medium duty cab over trucks use the Cummins 5.0L as well. Another thing is that a lot of the SCR/DPF emissions devices used on other engines are made by Cummins as well. All PACCAR and International engines have Cummins SCR/DPFs. I am not sure about the others.

[fx2tom]

hone eagle wrote:
Don that is interesting ,with so many builders going to 'in house ' engines what will become of cummins?

Over the road class 8 trucks are doing the same.
freightliner - mercedes
volvo /mack - volvo
PACCAR might the only one with a selection?

You can still get a Freightliner with a Cummins, though they try REAL hard to steer you out of it

PACCAR (Peterbilt/Kenworth) is the same - you can get a Cummins but they push those PACCAR engines big time. Problem is they won't release their full software to the public so most diagnostics have to be done at the dealer. I don't pay 7 mechanics just to take it back to the dealer, I'll stick with the Cummins as long as I can get it in a truck. Though the Volvos and Macks I have (4 - 2013 Volvos, 3 2014 Volvos, 4 2015 Volvos and 4 2016 MACKS) seem to pretty good so far.

Anything is better than the 10 2010 CATs I have...only 4 stil run :S

Anyways, got WAY off track....

[ShinerBock]

RobertRyan wrote:

You have a vast hated for anyone on this message board who disagrees with you.Does not matter if they were born in the US
Bore and strokes for the various versions of the IVECO vary, the original engine for both was a 5.9 engine which was very similar .

No, I have a disdain for people purposely posting false information. I can see accidentally doing it and correcting yourself, but you just keep on posting false info even when presented with facts. Now you are talking about the 5.9L being similar when the discussion was about the 6.7L.

RobertRyan wrote:

Do not blame the OP, you wandered off into talking about a Cummins 6.7

Nope, Look again buddy boy, you and the OP mentioned Cummins and Iveco long before I did. I was just correcting the false information you posted.

[ShinerBock]

RobertRyan wrote:

No, Ford UK developed and built the engine for PSA. PSA designed the engine.

False! Partially!

Do you have anything to back this up like I did with mine?

[RobertRyan]

ShinerBock wrote:
have no idea, not do I have an idea why you and the OP started talking about the Iveco in the first place. And I certainly do not know why you keep posting this false info......oh,wait.... I know why. To continue your "I hate America and America doesn

You have a vast hated for anyone on this message board who disagrees with you.Does not matter if they were born in the US
Bore and strokes for the various versions of the IVECO vary, the original engine for both was a 5.9 engine which was very similar .

I have no idea, not do I have an idea why you and the OP started talking about the Iveco in the first place. And I certainly do

Do not blame the OP, you wandered off into talking about a Cummins 6.7

[RobertRyan]

ShinerBock wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

Lion is the Peugeot moniker and the design of the engine belongs with them.

Really, please show me otherwise because it looks like the Ford name in front of this engine built in a Ford plant.

Ford AJD-V6/PSA DT17

Hey look, it even states it was designed by Peugot, Jaguar, and Land Rover unlike you are stating. One would think that if it were a Peugeot only engine, then it would say Peugeot in that article.

No, Ford UK developed and built the engine for PSA. PSA designed the engine.

[FishOnOne]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Powerdude wrote:
I would not buy a 1st year diesel engine from anybody, even if it was "tested in Europe"

Compared to European diesel fuel, US ultra low sulfur diesel has lower lubricity, the engine will be tuned to a different emissions standard, and will have different emissions equipment on it.

Let others test it out first. Computer simulations can only do so much.

^^^ smart man right there. Although I broke that rule with my LBZ and came out good.

You know there was an issue with the LBZ with the bronz inserts in the pistons which were later removed.