Ford suspension

[Bird_chaser]

I'm researching new tow vehicles (Chevy and Ford), I currently tow with a 2001 Silverado 3500 DRW, 6.0l with a 4l80e. My trailer has a pin weight of 2140 with a trailer weight of 10,460, this is loaded for a two week trip including 1/3 full water tank. I'm not concerned about towing, I'm concerned about the sag or squatting I hear about in the Fords. I'm concidering a Ford F-350 or a Chevy 3500 both DRW. I don't want to drop $50-60k and have to upgrade the suspension. I would like to hear from Ford guys about their experience. Thank you!

[45Ricochet]

FishOnOne wrote:

Bird chaser wrote:
As the OP I was trying to be as clear as I could be about what I was asking. I am totally surprised that the Ram guys chimed in with unsolicited opinions. I put no worth in any of their information, as I had already made the decision on GM or ford. I needed real info from real Ford and GM owners not opinion from the peanut gallery. I again wish to thank all the Ford and Chevy guts for your time.

LMAO. Guess only Ferd and Chebby guys have big guts. I'd get the Chevy OP. So much more truck than the Ferd.... but then again they sell lots of trucks for some reason. Oh yea they have the F150.
Good luck with your purchase OP. At least you only need a couple of test drives to find out which seat fits best.

Good luck with your truck purchase...
Sincerely size 34 :B I'm out

BTW... The LAM guys need to learn a little forum etiquette, but perhaps are struggling from years of frustration.

[Bird_Freak]

Bird chaser wrote:
As the OP I was trying to be as clear as I could be about what I was asking. I am totally surprised that the Ram guys chimed in with unsolicited opinions. I put no worth in any of their information, as I had already made the decision on GM or ford. I needed real info from real Ford and GM owners not opinion from the peanut gallery. I again wish to thank all the Ford and Chevy guts for your time.

I don't think you could really go wrong with either brand you are looking at. I really have no personal info. on the 3500 But my close friend and neighbor bought a 2015 F-350 and put it on the road delivering new rv's to dealers the first of Feb. I talked with him today and he is back in Denver and now has 52K on truck and has had no problems.
I meant to add he hauls all kinds of 5er's and rear end sag has not been a problem.

[Bird_Freak]

ShinerBock wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why Rams or Dodges are even being mentioned in this thread. IIRC, the OP specifically said this was between a Ford or Chevy truck and he was NOT a fan of Rams or Dodges.

Because the Ram boys think everyone should have what they like!:R

[ugh]

itguy08 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:

Bird chaser wrote:
I have never been a Ram/Dodge fan, the Cummins is a great engine but I feel that the rest of the truck is cosmetic and they are not built to last like a Ford or Chevy truck.

Okay

Even a few of these are still around:


Doesn't mean they are good cars. Or even representative of the whole lineup. Ram, Yugo, it's all the same. And yes, that's from a current Ebay auction.

Ask yourself this: If Chrysler made such great cars, why would they have needed 2 bailouts?

I had that car when I was in high school. That thing had nothing but problems.

[shepstone]

If I was in the market for a new truck, reading all the zealots in here would put me off whatever brand they are pushing .. Seems like there must be a lot of truck salesmen posting..

[FishOnOne]

Bird chaser wrote:
As the OP I was trying to be as clear as I could be about what I was asking. I am totally surprised that the Ram guys chimed in with unsolicited opinions. I put no worth in any of their information, as I had already made the decision on GM or ford. I needed real info from real Ford and GM owners not opinion from the peanut gallery. I again wish to thank all the Ford and Chevy guts for your time.

Good luck with your truck purchase...

BTW... The LAM guys need to learn a little forum etiquette, but perhaps are struggling from years of frustration.

[dodge_guy]

Bird chaser wrote:
As the OP I was trying to be as clear as I could be about what I was asking. I am totally surprised that the Ram guys chimed in with unsolicited opinions. I put no worth in any of their information, as I had already made the decision on GM or ford. I needed real info from real Ford and GM owners not opinion from the peanut gallery. I again wish to thank all the Ford and Chevy guts for your time.

Your welcome!

BTW, see what I`m driving? :B

[dodge_guy]

Folks! we have a new troll!

Mods, time to close this one!

[Hannibal]

Have you looked at the new Tundra? Ah never mind.:B

[Bird_chaser]

As the OP I was trying to be as clear as I could be about what I was asking. I am totally surprised that the Ram guys chimed in with unsolicited opinions. I put no worth in any of their information, as I had already made the decision on GM or ford. I needed real info from real Ford and GM owners not opinion from the peanut gallery. I again wish to thank all the Ford and Chevy guts for your time.

[ShinerBock]

BillyW wrote:
Not that you would do such a thing... 😉

Okay, please show me where I went off topic to promote another brand even after the OP of that thread told me(multiples times) that he did not want said brand that I was trying to promote.

I currently have both a Ford and Ram truck (I also owned GMs too), but the way some of the Ram guys are on this site makes me feel embarrassed to say I am a Ram owner.

[ShinerBock]

45Ricochet wrote:

This is my first comment. Didn't mention Ram

Did I name you as one of the first three?

45Ricochet wrote:
As far as the others, they can speak for themselves although I'm sure they have opinions like everyone else.
How far apart were you guys born, or are you identical twins :W

Yes, everyone has opinions. Whether they have opinions or not is not the issue. It is if that opinion was on topic or requested by the OP. In this case it was neither and they purposely disrespected the OP and his thread by continuing their "I have to tell you why Rams are better for you" rant even though he stated multiple times he did not want it.

Just remember that the next time you get mad because "Ford guys" or "GM guys" are going into Ram topic threads giving people "extra info" as to why they think their favorite brand is better. They can use the same "I am just giving my opinion" excuse that dodge guy used here.

[TurnThePage]

ShinerBock wrote:
So is this an open invite for a "Ford guy" or "GM guy" to enter into Ram threads because they believe the Ram thread needs "extra info" on how he thinks his favorite truck make is better than the vehicles on topic? If they are doing this now and you don't like it, then this makes you no better than they are.

Not that you would do such a thing... 😉

[45Ricochet]

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:



Actually go back and read. There were three "Ram guys"(ib516, rhagfo,and dodge guy) that posted mentioning Rams in this thread before anyone said anything negative toward Rams. If those three "Ram guys" would not have said anything then I doubt that a Ram truck would have been mentioned. So blast those "Ram guys" for not respecting the OP in the first place. Why don't you jump those guys? Oh wait, they get a pass because they are fellow Ram guys.

Just to highlight Shiner's comment... Well said BTW.

This is my first comment. Didn't mention Ram

45Ricochet wrote:
2140 pin ain't going to effect the squat very much in a dually from either brand.

As far as the others, they can speak for themselves although I'm sure they have opinions like everyone else.
How far apart were you guys born, or are you identical twins :W