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Global Ford Ranger trying to dethrone Toyota Hilux

RobertRyan
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Going to be interesting Hilux is the top Global Pickup, new Model has been released 2.3 million Global Pickups were sold last year

FORD'S range-topping Ranger Wildtrak will set a new safety standard for the one-tonne ute segment when it arrives in the third quarter, with a raft of driver assistance equipment not yet seen in its class.

While recent advances in active cruise control and lane-departure monitoring technology have found their way into passenger vehicles in recent years, the safety systems have not been applied to any models in the Australian light-commercial class, until now.

Sitting at the top of Ford's popular Ranger line-up, the pumped-up Wildtrak will bring a selection of off-road performance-enhancing gear, extra aesthetic tweaks as well as adaptive cruise control, forward collision alert, lane-keep assistance and a driver impairment monitor.

With the potentially lifesaving features, Ford's flagship Ranger Wildtrak out-guns the safety standards of its key rivals, including the just launched Nissan Navara and Mitsubishi Triton, as well as the Mazda BT50, Holden Colorado and even the high-specced Volkswagen Amarok.

Toyota's segment-dominating HiLux will touch down on Australian dirt shortly after the Ranger's third quarter launch, but no mention has been made of any similar safety and driver-assistance equipment for Toyota's new-gen pick-up either.

Ford has not yet outlined the rest of the Ranger line-up but details are expected to be made official soon, along with a concrete release date and pricing. At this stage, a September launch is looking most likely.

The Blue Oval was unable to confirm if the safety equipment would be included in any other Ranger variants, but Ford Australia brand communications manager Neil McDonald told GoAuto the top tech is traditionally seen in the highest-spec cars initially.

โ€œIt's probably a bit early to say but customarily that sort of technology comes in at the high-end first,โ€ he said. โ€œIt's probably a bit early to see where it's going to be available in the rest of the range.

If the Ranger evolves with a similar progression to other lines, the autonomous braking and other safety equipment is likely to be offered in lesser variants later in the model's lifecycle.

The Wildtrak's lane-keeping assistant can alert the driver if the vehicle unintentionally wanders out of a lane and if the warning is ignored, the system can provide steering correction to maintain the vehicle's course.

Adaptive cruise control uses forward facing sensors to maintain a set distance from a leading vehicle even if its speed fluctuates, while the same technology can provide a warning and primes the brakes if a nose-to-tail collision is imminent.

A driver-impairment monitor also uses the forward-facing camera to detect signs of driver drowsiness along with steering behaviour monitoring, and issues an audible warning if fatigue is sensed.

The Wildtrak is also equipped with more commonplace safety systems such as all-round parking radar with reversing camera, tyre-pressure monitoring, ESC with roll-over mitigation and emergency assistance via Ford's Sync2 system.

In addition to the significant boost in safety tech, the Wildtrak gets unique 18-inch alloy wheels, and tougher-looking exterior treatments including a dark โ€œliquid metallicโ€ grey grille with accentuated โ€œnostrilsโ€, with the unique colouring repeated on door mirrors and handles, side vents, bed rails and tail-lights.

Wide side steps, roof rails and a special smoked roll-over bar are also standard fare on the Wildtrak, while the Pride Orange paintwork and nameplate emblazoned on the front doors sets it apart from other Rangers.

The top-spec version will also be available dressed-up in Cool White, Black Mica, Metropolitan Grey and Aluminium.

A dusting of unique features continues on the inside with more smoky trims to match the exterior, two-tone orange upholstery with matching stitching, while the driver's seat is adjustable in eight ways.

The Sync2 information and entertainment is accessible through the 8.0-inch touchscreen or through recently revised, simpler voice commands. More natural spoken instructions can be used to control cabin temperature, entertainment sources and navigation functions.

Like the previous-generation Ranger Wildtrak, the new version is also powered by Ford's 3.2-litre Duratorq five-cylinder diesel engine, which pumps 147kW and 470Nm of torque through a six-speed automatic transmission, to just the rear wheels or all four corners at the flick of a switch.

Power is unchanged over the previous model but exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) development has cut fuel consumption by 18 per cent says Ford, while electric power steering has lopped another three per cent off fuel use.

Ford is yet to release performance figures but a combined 21 per cent boost in fuel efficiency takes consumption to about 7.1 litres per 100 kilometres.(38mpg U.S.)

Selecting two or four-wheel drive can be done on the fly with the centrally positioned control knob, with a low-range option for more serious off-road or towing work.

Ground clearance is a generous 230mm allowing the Wildtrak to wade through up to 800mm-deep water, while hill-hold, hill descent and Adaptive Load Control gives the range-topping Ranger more ability on and off-road. Towing capacity is rated at 3500kg.

Ford Asia Pacific product development vice president Trevor Worthington said the new Wildtrak builds on the strengths of the forthcoming Ranger.

โ€œThe 2015 Wildtrak takes the Ford Ranger to the next level with an aggressive exterior, a premium, sporty, interior, the latest driver assist technologies and capabilities that ensure itโ€™s up for any adventure,โ€ he said.

โ€œBuilding on the bolder, smarter and more refined 2015 Ranger, the advanced Wildtrak is a perfect fit for customers who want to combine genuine 4x4 capability with stand-out styling and premium features.โ€
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RobertRyan
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IdaD wrote:
Out of morbid curiousity I'd like to know what would make, say, a Toyota Hilux better offroad than factory trucks you can get in the US. By that I mean specific features. Solid front axle? Low range ratio? Rear and/or front locking differentials? Electronic or quick swaybar disconnects?

I haven't looked any of this up so I'm genuinely curious. You can get fairly capable off road trucks in the US these days.

The whole thing about Global models is there Off Road ability and payload., for US Pickups it is mainly towing .

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Out of morbid curiousity I'd like to know what would make, say, a Toyota Hilux better offroad than factory trucks you can get in the US. By that I mean specific features. Solid front axle? Low range ratio? Rear and/or front locking differentials? Electronic or quick swaybar disconnects?

I haven't looked any of this up so I'm genuinely curious. You can get fairly capable off road trucks in the US these days.
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jerem0621 wrote:
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RobertRyan wrote:

So the Sportrac does not have a 3,000lb payload and 8,000lb towing. The Ranger Cab Chassis does, It has a bed. You are trying to make a disagreement out of factual information and deliberately distorting it
You do not live in fantasyland, it is quite deliberate what you are doing, trying a them and us tactic A lot of people on this thread are interested in Global Pickups, not what you wanted
Ranger and bed


I said pickup bed and a dual cab Robert. As in a pickup bed just like the Sportrac. I didn't ask for the numbers of a single cab, and I did not ask for the numbers of a cab and chassis before the weight of any trayback is applied.

I don't think you quite understand that the cab and chassis models loose payload once you put a tray or flat bed on them. The numbers you keep quoting is the cab and chassis truck which look like this.



Once you add any kind of bed to the truck then it drops the payload the amount that the bed weighs. For example, take the 3,000 lb payload of the single cab cab and chassis model you keep quoting. If you pick that up off the lot without adding a thing to it then you have 3,000 lbs payload, but it don't have any kind of bed and it looks like the truck pictured above. Say you take this truck to a shop to have a 500 lbs bed installed. Know you have to deduct the weight of that bed from your payload which turns your 3,000 lbs payload into 2,500 lbs. Savy? Do you understand how that works and why I said NOT to quote cab and chassis models (especially single cabs) because those are numbers BEFORE and bed is put on it.

Also, I am providing factual information and this is not fantasyland. All I asked you to do is show me a global truck dual cab pickup truck (like the Sportrac) hat had a payload of 3,000 lbs and a tow rating of 8,000 lbs. I know there isn't because I checked which is why you cannot come up with one solitary model that does. If you want to say I am distorting the truth then here, check for yourself and everyone else can as well.


Nissan Navara

Toyota Hilux

Mazda BT50

Holden Colorado

Ford Ranger

So if I am lying or distorting the truth. Then point out to me which truck in these brochures has a payload of 3,000 lbs(1,360 kg) and a tow rating of 8,000 lbs(3,628 kg) in a dual cab pickup configuration. Remember, it has to say P/U for pickup and not C/C for cab and chassis.


Shiner, just for kicks...I looked up the Nissan CC 4x4 automatic and it has 828 kg or 1825 lbs of cargo. This is 400 lbs less than the Colorado 4x4 Crew Cab I looked at. I am willing to bet that the tire capacity in these trucks is very similar as the U.S. vehicles tend to rate the axles way under the tire capacity at max PSI.

Towing is 3,000 kg which is 6613 lbs...this is 400 lbs less than the Colorado in the US.

The data suggests that there is not a huge disparity between global midsize trucks and American mid size trucks.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

They are older models, not all have 3,000 payloadslb just like not all F150's have 3,300lb payloads.He has cherry picked, the Ford / Mazda have 3,000lb payloads but remember these are " 1 tonne" Pickups so they have to have. 2,200lb payload model.
The New Navara has 3,500kg towing or 7,700lb, The old Hilux had only 5,500lb, now 7,700lb.
U.S. Towing firgures and global,are not compatible a F250 HD with a diesel has a rating here of 4,500kg or 9,900lb, you can up grade to 5,000kg or 11,000lb a lot less than the U.S. Figures
That earlier Nissan had a 6,600lb rating but also a 405lbs ft Diesel, it could tow a 29ft 5ver

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RobertRyan wrote:
Being defensive about the distort ions presented by a poster and the " superiority" come from the fact US Pickups are not sold anywhere else


Wait, what?
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Before this thread gets shut down for being another Robert vs Shiner debate, I'd like to throw my two cents in.

As the user of a "girly boy" Nissan Frontier, and also a F350 dually, I will readily admit, I love my Frontier. Actually, I think the current USA market Frontier is very close in size to what Robert shows us as "global Ranger". And yes, the market has spoken pretty clearly here, they want F series and similar from GM and Ram.

So Robert, to you, I would say this: if the american consumer wanted that "global Ranger" size truck, then they would have been lining up for the last decade buying the heck out of Frontiers and Tacomas. But the truth is, they instead have been lining up buying the heck out of F150's and C1500 GM twins. The market has spoken, and I can't blame the OEM's. They are simply producing what the market demands.

I still prefer my Frontier as a daily driver. Awesome truck for day to day use. Much more usable for most of what I do than the F350, or any F series for that matter.

The global Ranger looks cool to me. Too bad that five banger diesel doesn't come with a nice six speed manual box like my Frontier has.

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shepstone wrote:
While I very much appreciate the effort to show what the rest of the world is doing, I don't understand why the overtones of superiority. Keep up the good work of showing us how the other half does things Robert, it can be very interesting but I don't feel there is a need for the rest of it.

Being defensive about the distort ions presented by a poster and the " superiority" come from the fact US Pickups are not sold anywhere else

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Lessmore wrote:
To a certain point it's interesting to see what the other parts of the world does regarding truck needs, regulations, payloads....how they do things differently, etc.

But in the end, I think the subject has been covered very thoroughly and on a regular basis, by Robert Ryan. Thanks Robert you've covered it very well. Your job is done.

As others have pointed out that different parts of the world require different types of vehicles due to...different social- economic situations, regulations, road and climatic conditions, customer needs and wants, etc.

I know myself, when it comes to cars or light trucks...I like them big. I like big cabins, lot's of legroom so I can stretch out my long legs, shoulder room so my shoulder doesn't hit the window or side post, comfort and I prefer power over fuel economy....although a balance between these two is good.

Where I live (Western Canada) and travel (Canada/USA) roads are generally wide, straight and traveling long distance is the norm.

I've traveled in Europe, rented cars and realize that my vehicles, built/designed for North American needs/tastes would have some difficulty on some old narrow town roads in England, France, etc.

But the little European Ford and Peugeot that I drove over there....worked fine getting around. I glad the Peugeot had a tiny little 4 banger (1000cc I believe) as fuel costs were very expensive compared to over here.

In the end I find, I'm happy to drive in a North American vehicle in North America...just as I'm sure many in other parts of the world are satisfied with the vehicles available/designed for their market and no one is right or wrong.

People are satisfied with the vehicles they drive.Europeans do not drive Pickups as a rule.In Asia is it is exact opposite. In Australia we love Pickups and SUV's but not US Pickups, not because they are big, but a lack of Off Road ability and payload, to a lesser extent Fuel economy. The head of Toyota Australia said there was a terrific demand for the Tundra, but when he was giving details he quoted a Diesel with RHD and a expected selling rate of 100 Vehicles a Month! That does not make sense

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kaydeejay wrote:
Robert, Shiner - can't we just get along and agree the North American market is very different from the rest of the World and our vehicle products have evolved accordingly?
I have lived in the UK, Canada and now the US and appreciate that a vehicle designed for one environment does not necessarily fit the other.
Passenger vehicles have become more global, there is now a lot of overlap in product availability around the World. Maybe trucks will get there too eventually.
$8/gallon gas might have something to do with it as well!

Then there is the "Global standards" discussion.
As someone who was responsible for that Federally legislated certification label on US products for GM I understand the different regulations in different countries.
That's why many North American products are not available elsewhere and vice-versa.
It's not just emissions, there are hundreds of regs defining product build and performance. It is very difficult to build a vehicle that meets them ALL.
And yes Robert, the powers that be that expect a high sales volume for LHD Corvettes in the UK need a lesson in reality!!
I had a 1967 Chev Camaro convertible in the UK many years ago. (Wish I still had it!) It was HUGE and very hard to maneuver in tight spaces. Passing trucks on 2-lane roads was very interesting!

Meeting Global regulations is a big issue, that restricts many U.S. Exports.That Corvette
Decision by GM is pretty strange, when you consider that a Corvette would be very desirable elsewhere

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While I very much appreciate the effort to show what the rest of the world is doing, I don't understand why the overtones of superiority. Keep up the good work of showing us how the other half does things Robert, it can be very interesting but I don't feel there is a need for the rest of it.
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I'm trying to figure out the point of the threads that this guy starts. They seem to start out as informational types of posts but they degenerate quickly when he starts to pontificate about the greatness of trucks overseas while deriding the trucks in North America. It's actually quite annoying and generally useless.


Yep x 2 or howevermany

agree completely . So what is the term for a poster that seems the thrive on causing turmoil ?
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pappcam wrote:
I'm trying to figure out the point of the threads that this guy starts. They seem to start out as informational types of posts but they degenerate quickly when he starts to pontificate about the greatness of trucks overseas while deriding the trucks in North America. It's actually quite annoying and generally useless.


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To a certain point it's interesting to see what the other parts of the world does regarding truck needs, regulations, payloads....how they do things differently, etc.

But in the end, I think the subject has been covered very thoroughly and on a regular basis, by Robert Ryan. Thanks Robert you've covered it very well. Your job is done.

As others have pointed out that different parts of the world require different types of vehicles due to...different social- economic situations, regulations, road and climatic conditions, customer needs and wants, etc.

I know myself, when it comes to cars or light trucks...I like them big. I like big cabins, lot's of legroom so I can stretch out my long legs, shoulder room so my shoulder doesn't hit the window or side post, comfort and I prefer power over fuel economy....although a balance between these two is good.

Where I live (Western Canada) and travel (Canada/USA) roads are generally wide, straight and traveling long distance is the norm.

I've traveled in Europe, rented cars and realize that my vehicles, built/designed for North American needs/tastes would have some difficulty on some old narrow town roads in England, France, etc.

But the little European Ford and Peugeot that I drove over there....worked fine getting around. I glad the Peugeot had a tiny little 4 banger (1000cc I believe) as fuel costs were very expensive compared to over here.

In the end I find, I'm happy to drive in a North American vehicle in North America...just as I'm sure many in other parts of the world are satisfied with the vehicles available/designed for their market and no one is right or wrong.

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ShinerBock wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:

So the Sportrac does not have a 3,000lb payload and 8,000lb towing. The Ranger Cab Chassis does, It has a bed. You are trying to make a disagreement out of factual information and deliberately distorting it
You do not live in fantasyland, it is quite deliberate what you are doing, trying a them and us tactic A lot of people on this thread are interested in Global Pickups, not what you wanted
Ranger and bed


I said pickup bed and a dual cab Robert. As in a pickup bed just like the Sportrac. I didn't ask for the numbers of a single cab, and I did not ask for the numbers of a cab and chassis before the weight of any trayback is applied.

I don't think you quite understand that the cab and chassis models loose payload once you put a tray or flat bed on them. The numbers you keep quoting is the cab and chassis truck which look like this.



Once you add any kind of bed to the truck then it drops the payload the amount that the bed weighs. For example, take the 3,000 lb payload of the single cab cab and chassis model you keep quoting. If you pick that up off the lot without adding a thing to it then you have 3,000 lbs payload, but it don't have any kind of bed and it looks like the truck pictured above. Say you take this truck to a shop to have a 500 lbs bed installed. Know you have to deduct the weight of that bed from your payload which turns your 3,000 lbs payload into 2,500 lbs. Savy? Do you understand how that works and why I said NOT to quote cab and chassis models (especially single cabs) because those are numbers BEFORE and bed is put on it.

Also, I am providing factual information and this is not fantasyland. All I asked you to do is show me a global truck dual cab pickup truck (like the Sportrac) hat had a payload of 3,000 lbs and a tow rating of 8,000 lbs. I know there isn't because I checked which is why you cannot come up with one solitary model that does. If you want to say I am distorting the truth then here, check for yourself and everyone else can as well.


Nissan Navara

Toyota Hilux

Mazda BT50

Holden Colorado

Ford Ranger

So if I am lying or distorting the truth. Then point out to me which truck in these brochures has a payload of 3,000 lbs(1,360 kg) and a tow rating of 8,000 lbs(3,628 kg) in a dual cab pickup configuration. Remember, it has to say P/U for pickup and not C/C for cab and chassis.


Shiner, just for kicks...I looked up the Nissan CC 4x4 automatic and it has 828 kg or 1825 lbs of cargo. This is 400 lbs less than the Colorado 4x4 Crew Cab I looked at. I am willing to bet that the tire capacity in these trucks is very similar as the U.S. vehicles tend to rate the axles way under the tire capacity at max PSI.

Towing is 3,000 kg which is 6613 lbs...this is 400 lbs less than the Colorado in the US.

The data suggests that there is not a huge disparity between global midsize trucks and American mid size trucks.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
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IdaD
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I guess I need to try harder to care about payload ratings on compact pickups on the other side of the planet, cause I just can't seem to get myself there at this point. Maybe I need more coffee or something.
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I for one like RR being called to task for 'cherry picking'
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