Help from GMC/Chevy 1500 6.2L owners with NHT package.

[teraandjim]

Hello All,
I would like some real numbers from owners of GMC and Chevy 1500 owners with the NHT package. I interested the actual sticker numbers on owners truck pertaining to payload of their rigs. I plan to order a fairly loaded 1500 with the 6.2L and the NHT package and tow package. Not sure if the NHT package automatically gives you the tow package, but I will be setting up the truck for towing. Previous threads of mine from December or last year have us in a 28-32 footer with a gross weight of 7500-9500 Lbs. Upon looking at the trailers at shows and in showrooms, we really like the idea of the smaller bunkhouse trailers. These are around 6500 Lbs. gross with tongue weights around 700 Lbs. I'm hoping to have enough payload in a 1500 with NHT package to tow these trailers. I would like to avoid a 2500 if possible, the truck will be my daily driver. I was wondering if I could get some real numbers from truck owners with the NHT package. My current payload is around 950 Lbs. (that is people, dogs, truck cap and 150 Lbs of travel stuff). Then add 700 Lbs of tongue weight and my working payload is around 1700 Lbs. Would like some input from owners to see if the truck will have enough payload for my needs. The GMC website has a NHT configured truck with a payload north of 2000 Lbs. That would be great but does that truck exist with the options I want. Thanks for any input.

Trailers we are looking at Jayco 25BHS, Keystone Bullet 243 BHS, to name a few, but these are the leaders.

Jim

[The_Texan]

gmcsmoke wrote:
if you think a 1500 with a 420HP motor that gets a EPA estimate of 14/20 and requires premium gas is going to be leaps and bounds above a 360HP 2500 6.0L in gas mileage you got another thing coming.

Please show me where the word requires is published in ANY GM publication. I know for a fact it is NOT in the 2011 or 2012 owners manual.

[therink]

I can attest to the fact that the 6.0 is made for running under heavy loads (say towing a 10k trailer) at high rpms in hot conditions for long periods of time over and over again with no high heat consequences.
I have owned 3 of them and I say they are bullet proof and a proven gasser drive train for towing.
There is a reason GM keeps the iron block in the HD line.

[BenK]

Ditto that it is NOT designed for +8K GVWR usage...ditto reading that discussion
and wished I'd kept a copy as can't find it now

Why it is only available on lower class trucks

It is a fantastic 'car' engine though and another why it is available on the
lesser class trucks...AKA 1500's...AKA half ton


Same or similar to why 'P' class tires are NOT offered on +8K GVWR trucks. They
are designed for 'cars' or 'passenger cars'



Think this is the correct one for the OP's half ton SUV
GMLS866.2L L86 6.2L

[Dannyabear1]

I cannot find the article right now, but it was a GM forum with supposedly GM engineers answering questions.. The reason given was that the 6.2 all aluminum motor was nor designed for lugging a load around but rather for people who liked the git up and go. He stated that it is not available in 2500 or 3500 trucks for this reason. Thats why they still offer the iron block 6.0 as the work horse engine for HD trucks which are designed to haul a load, whatever it may be..

[jerem0621]

Dannyabear1 wrote:

Campfire Time wrote:

Dannyabear1 wrote:
The 6.2 is not designed for towing, that's why it is not offered in 2500 or 3500 trucks; The 6.0 ltr. is the 'truck' motor and has years of experience.

:h

The 6.2 is an all aluminum engine made to 'go fast' not pull a load, again, that is what the 6.0 is for!!

Show me proof that a 6.2 has failed due to towing a heavy load? This is a great motor for the intended purpose.

These things have been put in 1500's since 07...where are the motors that failed due to towing? Semantics aside...show me proof.

Thanks!

[Dannyabear1]

Campfire Time wrote:

Dannyabear1 wrote:
The 6.2 is not designed for towing, that's why it is not offered in 2500 or 3500 trucks; The 6.0 ltr. is the 'truck' motor and has years of experience.

:h

The 6.2 is an all aluminum engine made to 'go fast' not pull a load, again, that is what the 6.0 is for!!

[gmcsmoke]

if you think a 1500 with a 420HP motor that gets a EPA estimate of 14/20 and requires premium gas is going to be leaps and bounds above a 360HP 2500 6.0L in gas mileage you got another thing coming.

[teraandjim]

Thank for the information. I got some thinkin' to do. The gas mileage and the size of the truck are major factors against the 2500. Valid points brought up by posters. I think I should be good since the weights are gross wieghts. More to come. Thank you.

[therink]

JN_B wrote:

therink wrote:
For what it's worth, the 2500/3500 HD trucks drive and handle very well as a daily driver. The down side is they do burn more fuel. I averaged 13 daily driving in my previous 6.0 gasser 3500. The upside is you can get whatever trailer you want and safely have the suspension and braking capabilities to handle it.
The HD trucks are so much nicer in my opinion. Once you tow with one, you will never go back. The 6.0 power train is made for towing.

The problem with HD trucks is the length. That extra 1.5' for a crew cab 6.5' box is a killer for most people. Doesn't seem like much, but in the city, that eliminates alot of options.

I think if the OEM's made a HD crew with 5.5' box, they would sell a ton more.

Gotcha, I didn't think of that. I guess I'm used to it and my garage at home is large enough.

[JN_B]

therink wrote:
For what it's worth, the 2500/3500 HD trucks drive and handle very well as a daily driver. The down side is they do burn more fuel. I averaged 13 daily driving in my previous 6.0 gasser 3500. The upside is you can get whatever trailer you want and safely have the suspension and braking capabilities to handle it.
The HD trucks are so much nicer in my opinion. Once you tow with one, you will never go back. The 6.0 power train is made for towing.

The problem with HD trucks is the length. That extra 1.5' for a crew cab 6.5' box is a killer for most people. Doesn't seem like much, but in the city, that eliminates alot of options.

I think if the OEM's made a HD crew with 5.5' box, they would sell a ton more.

[carringb]

Just to be clear... You are looking at loaded trailer weights, and not dry weights?

The a surprising disparity between the two number, and dry weights only matter for the RV transporters who ship them from the factory, before the dealer adds "options" like batteries and propane tanks.

[Campfire_Time]

Dannyabear1 wrote:
The 6.2 is not designed for towing, that's why it is not offered in 2500 or 3500 trucks; The 6.0 ltr. is the 'truck' motor and has years of experience.

:h

[therink]

For what it's worth, the 2500/3500 HD trucks drive and handle very well as a daily driver. The down side is they do burn more fuel. I averaged 13 daily driving in my previous 6.0 gasser 3500. The upside is you can get whatever trailer you want and safely have the suspension and braking capabilities to handle it.
The HD trucks are so much nicer in my opinion. Once you tow with one, you will never go back. The 6.0 power train is made for towing.

[Dannyabear1]

The 6.2 is not designed for towing, that's why it is not offered in 2500 or 3500 trucks; The 6.0 ltr. is the 'truck' motor and has years of experience.

[DBH_MI]

I have a NHT Silverado LT with the 5.3 liter. The door sticker says the cargo is 1749 lbs. A friend also has a NHT Silverado with the 5.3 and fewer options than mine and his sticker says 1803 lbs.