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Jumping off the Diesel Bandwagon - UPDATED

ib516
Explorer II
Explorer II
Well, after two Cummins diesels that I thoroughly enjoyed, I am going to place a factory order for a RAM 2500 with the 6.4L Hemi, 4.10 gears, rear air suspension, Laramie and plenty of added options. I don't care for the looks of the "Limited" with all the badges gone, and I think the cowboy theme of the longhorn is tacky.

WHY THE SWITCH FROM DIESEL TO GAS?

1) Well, when I bought my first Cummins powered truck, diesel fuel was almost always 30% cheaper than regular unleaded where I live. In recent years, that scale has tipped the other way. It used to be occassionally, and now it seems that Canada is following the trends in the USA, and it is becoming the norm. Of course this is a regional thing, but it seems here to stay. Our last road trip with my current truck, I paid $93.00 for 68L of diesel. That's $93.00 for 18 US Gallons when I topped it up. :E Regular unleaded is running $1.20/L and diesel is $1.42/L right now. That has been the trend for the last 6 months or so - maybe the last year.

2) When I bought my last two diesels, the HD gas offerings by the big 3 were gas hogs compared to the diesels. That has all but evaporated with the hp/tq war going on in the diesels, and the addition of DPFs, DEF, etc. The gas engines haven't improved much, but the diesel mpg has come down some which has narrowed the gap.

3) The gas engines just weren't all that powerful either. The 5.7L Hemi was tops at 345hp back then, the GM 6.0L was a measly 300hp, and Ford's 5.4L was a bit of a dog as I drove one 12 hrs a day in an Expedition and it didn't impress me power wise in the lighter Expedition. While the diesels today offer huge power and will certainly outperform the 6.4L Hemi I am choosing, the 6.4L Hemi is actually rated to tow more than my 5.9L Cummins, by 2500#! I know it will be a "different" towing experience with much less tq than my pumped up 5.9L Cummins, but I will live with the higher RPMs.

4) The kids are growing and we will no longer need a huge bunk house RV to save us from going nuts on those rainy days when camping. We are going to downsize to a smaller RV next time round, which will be in the next year or two.

5) Driving my 2014 Jeep Cherokee with the heated seats, new tech features, etc has me wanting a newer truck with the new features and upgraded interior from the Tupperware/Rubbermaid one in my current truck.

6) A new, loaded 2500 RAM with the Cummins is about $8,000 - $9,000 more than the same truck with the 6.4L Hemi here in Canada.

7) Lastly, the big Cummins diesel sucks to drive at -30* and -40*. It just starts blowing heat when I ARRIVE at work. I have the grill completely blocked off with a winter front, and have done all I can, this just doesn't get better. Nature of the beast.

So there you have it. Me talking myself into a new truck. ๐Ÿ™‚
Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV
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Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
45Ricochet wrote:
All that rambling with a him pulling a 1998 Nash 22' TT. Your right, you don't need a diesel. Some of us do. Just saying :W


No, you do not. There is not one single RV trailer on the market that needs to be pulled with a diesel engine! Each and every one of them can be pulled with a gas-powered truck!
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

Ram6_4
Explorer
Explorer
You're going to love the power out of the new 6.4 hemi. I just got done towing my TT 1000 miles and really enjoyed how the truck handled the entire time. Makes me proud to have not gone the diesel route especially since I don't think my TT is heavy enough to really need a diesel.

[img][/img]You are really going to enjoy the power out of the Hemi 6.4. I just got done towing my trailer about 1000 miles total for a week long camping trip to Yosemite. I absolutely loved towing my trailer for the first time.

The_Mad_Norsky
Explorer
Explorer
ib516 wrote:
BurbMan wrote:
Is that a scratch on the fender?

EASY!......:B

I took the picture in the rain....if you're not just pulling my leg, it's likely a rain drop streak you're seeing :B



Funny. Hey ib516, a good looking vehicle. Here's to hoping for many years of enjoyable service from it!
The Mad Norsky, Doll, Logan and Rocky
2014 Ram 3500 w/ Cummins/Aisin
2019 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CD LE Wet Bath
RV'ing since 1991

I took the road less traveled .....Now I'm Lost!

ls1mike
Explorer II
Explorer II
Great looking truck! Enjoy!
Mike
2024 Chevy 2500HD 6.6 gas/Allison
2012 Passport 3220 BHWE
Me, the Wife, two little ones and two dogs.

Benoit1967
Explorer
Explorer
Just pulled into Fargo ND with our 2011 F350 6.7L diesel from Calgary. I am in fargo to pick up our new fifth wheel so I wanted to capture the 'empty mpg' on 1650+ KM ( 1025+ miles ). We drove between 70 and 75 mph the whole trip with the exception of villages and small towns ( speed limit )

12.4 Liters / 100km or 18.97 miles per US gallons or 22.78 miles per Cdn gallons

to be continued with loaded mpg going back home...
2014 Open Range 316RLS fifth wheel
2012 Hyundai Veloster 6 Speed, triathlon gray (commuter car)
2011 Ford F350, 6.7L diesel, Lariat, 4X4, Crew Cab, Short box, Tri-coat white
2008 Princecraft Pro 166 (black)

ib516
Explorer II
Explorer II
BurbMan wrote:
Is that a scratch on the fender?

EASY!......:B

I took the picture in the rain....if you're not just pulling my leg, it's likely a rain drop streak you're seeing :B
Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV

BurbMan
Explorer II
Explorer II
Is that a scratch on the fender?

45Ricochet
Explorer
Explorer
Congrats Ian
2015 Tiffin Phaeton Cummins ISL, Allison 3000, 45K GCWR
10KW Onan, Magnum Pure Sine Wave Inverter
2015 GMC Canyon Toad

Previous camping rig
06 Ram 3500 CC LB Laramie 4x4 Dually 5.9 Cummins Smarty Jr 48RE Jacobs brake
06 Grand Junction 15500 GVWR 3200 pin

Perrysburg_Dodg
Explorer
Explorer
Nice, glade to see she made it all in one piece :W

I too look forward to hearing how she does and Thank You!

Don
2015 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab SWB 4X4 Ecodiesel GDE Tune.

Hannibal
Explorer
Explorer
It's a beauty! Can't wait to read your towing report. We're getting ready to head out next week.
2020 F250 STX CC SB 7.3L 10spd 3.55 4x4
2010 F250 XLT CC SB 5.4L 5spdTS 3.73
ex '95 Cummins,'98 12v Cummins,'01.5 Cummins,'03 Cummins; '05 Hemi
2017 Jayco 28RLS TT 32.5'

ib516
Explorer II
Explorer II
Got the Hemi powered 2500 home today.

Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV

spoon059
Explorer II
Explorer II
jalichty wrote:
boone, where in the heck do you find 2.25% rate CDs? Just wondering because around here, with good quality CDs, the rates have been around 1-1/15% for over three years. I really would like to find some of the 2.25% money for an organization that I belong to.

www.bankrate.com is where I search for CD rates. That 2.25% is from Barclays.
2015 Ram CTD
2015 Jayco 29QBS

spoon059
Explorer II
Explorer II
shelbyj wrote:
Money wise cars/trucks and RVs are typically not good "investments" IMO its not about if its a good investment or not, its about what makes you happy in your life. If owning an RV makes you happy and allows you to spend quality time with the family or friends then thats worth it. We can sit here and go back and forth about if its worth the extra money to get a diesel but as others have said its a personal choice. If you want a diesel to pull your pop up trailer, go for it, its your money.

Exactly.
2015 Ram CTD
2015 Jayco 29QBS

mowin
Explorer
Explorer
I agree, get what you want. My needs are different than others.
My experiences with both gas and diesel trucks are most likely different than others. Spend your money wisely, or not, lol.