Looking at '17 3500 Ram

[spud1957]

Still looking for a truck. Really concerned about the CP4 in the Ford and newer Rams.

Going to look at a '17 3500 next week. Has the HO/Aisin. 80,000 Kms

Anything I need to look for?

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[NJRVer]

Bought my 2017 laramie, dually, HO, Aisin long bed new in Feb '18 as a leftover.
Once I got the draglink replaced, no problems. About 48,000 miles now.

[4x4ord]

55k sounds reasonable to me. I expect to get a price on a new 2020 limited from a sales manager tomorrow. When I bought my Ford in 2017 the Ram would have cost about 3k less than what I paid for the Ford. The MSRP on a 2020 Ram Laramie Limited is about 103,700 and a similar Ford has an MSRP of 96500.

[rhagfo]

4x4ord wrote:

spud1957 wrote:
Still looking for a truck. Really concerned about the CP4 in the Ford and newer Rams.

Going to look at a '17 3500 next week. Has the HO/Aisin. 80,000 Kms

Anything I need to look for?

Picture

Looks like a very nice truck. I priced out a 2017 Laramie Limited/diesel in the fall of 2017. I was quoted 69k plus tax. I plan on getting a quote on one in the next few days .... my expectation is that the price hasn’t changed much over the last 3 years. What do you have to pay for a 2017 now?

4X4, was that quote for a 4X4 with HO, Aisin, or a CDT with 68RFE? I ask as the sticker price on our new to us 2016 3500 DRW Laramie was $69,005, that is with DRW, Aisin, and Moon roof.
The Aisin was $2,595.
The Sunroof $995
The DRW $1,200

[rhagfo]

spud1957 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

spud1957 wrote:
Still looking for a truck. Really concerned about the CP4 in the Ford and newer Rams.

Going to look at a '17 3500 next week. Has the HO/Aisin. 80,000 Kms

Anything I need to look for?

Picture

Looks like a very nice truck. I priced out a 2017 Laramie Limited/diesel in the fall of 2017. I was quoted 69k plus tax. I plan on getting a quote on one in the next few days .... my expectation is that the price hasn’t changed much over the last 3 years. What do you have to pay for a 2017 now?

It's a Laramie Limited and the price is $55,560 Canadian dollars. They had it at $59,500 and just marked it down for "Black Friday".

Have it on hold. Going Tuesday to look at it. It's on PEI, I'm in NB. Had a friend there look at it. Front bumper has rock chips and tires should be replaced I'm hoping we can work out a deal.

Let us know what you do about it.
Just an FYI check that the Aisin had its first service at 30,000 miles or 48,300km and it will be due for the second at 60,000 miles or 96,600km.

[spud1957]

4x4ord wrote:

spud1957 wrote:
Still looking for a truck. Really concerned about the CP4 in the Ford and newer Rams.

Going to look at a '17 3500 next week. Has the HO/Aisin. 80,000 Kms

Anything I need to look for?

Picture

Looks like a very nice truck. I priced out a 2017 Laramie Limited/diesel in the fall of 2017. I was quoted 69k plus tax. I plan on getting a quote on one in the next few days .... my expectation is that the price hasn’t changed much over the last 3 years. What do you have to pay for a 2017 now?

It's a Laramie Limited and the price is $55,560 Canadian dollars. They had it at $59,500 and just marked it down for "Black Friday".

Have it on hold. Going Tuesday to look at it. It's on PEI, I'm in NB. Had a friend there look at it. Front bumper has rock chips and tires should be replaced I'm hoping we can work out a deal.

[4x4ord]

spud1957 wrote:
Still looking for a truck. Really concerned about the CP4 in the Ford and newer Rams.

Going to look at a '17 3500 next week. Has the HO/Aisin. 80,000 Kms

Anything I need to look for?

Picture

Looks like a very nice truck. I priced out a 2017 Laramie Limited/diesel in the fall of 2017. I was quoted 69k plus tax. I plan on getting a quote on one in the next few days .... my expectation is that the price hasn’t changed much over the last 3 years. What do you have to pay for a 2017 now?

[Cummins12V98]

Exceeding the GVWR. I would never think of doing such a thing.

[Me_Again]

The 2015 RAM got power folder towing mirrors. The 2016 was first year of front park sense. And 2016 gained the ability to switch the bed camera and backup camera between displays.

FWIW we towed a 16K 5th at a combine weight of 24,500 lbs. The trailer had a light 2430 lb dry pin weight. We were full timing at the time with lots of stuff in the truck bed. We were a few lbs over the 11,700 GVWR but under the 12K Washington State registration.

Love the truck and will be driving it for many more years.

[blofgren]

IdaD wrote:

garysol wrote:
The CP4 issue has been way overblown in my opinion. Call your local dealer and ask them how many they have had to replace vs how many trucks they have sold. Also all HO trucks built after July 2020 have a revised symmetrical CP4 pump that may be a fix for those CP4 problems that did arise.

Probably, but it's a known issue that can be really significant. It was certainly a factor when I picked a Ram back in 2015. The current Duramax doesn't have one. They're all good trucks, I'd personally lean towards the one without the known issue. Buying used that might make me lean Ram, new probably Duramax.

I totally agree; if I were shopping for a new diesel truck today it would almost certainly be a GM.

[JKJavelin]

rhagfo wrote:

JKJavelin wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
JK have you ever weighed your rear axle loaded? I am betting you are over-inflating for your load.

Sure, I go to the scale a couple times a year. In June the rear axle was 6780, and the RAWR is 7000.
I believe the Firestone chart would call for 75 lbs, so I wouldn't say I'm out of line.

Wow, 6,780# on the rear axle with a 5er that has a GVWR of 12,485#, what else do you carry in the bed. Our 5we is a bit over weight, and carries a pin of 2,700#, never had the rear axle on the 2001 Ram near 6,000# with a heavy in bed tool box.

LOL... not a lot! 100 lb Champion generator, that's it.
OK- my Demco autoslide with puck adapter is about 310lbs and my pin weight is 2840, so about 3250 in the bed.
If interested, here's my weights with pretty full tanks and plenty of beer in the front closet.
Front axle- 5140
Rear axle - 6780
Trailer axles- 9200
Total- 21,120

[rhagfo]

JKJavelin wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
JK have you ever weighed your rear axle loaded? I am betting you are over-inflating for your load.

Sure, I go to the scale a couple times a year. In June the rear axle was 6780, and the RAWR is 7000.
I believe the Firestone chart would call for 75 lbs, so I wouldn't say I'm out of line.

Wow, 6,780# on the rear axle with a 5er that has a GVWR of 12,485#, what else do you carry in the bed. Our 5we is a bit over weight, and carries a pin of 2,700#, never had the rear axle on the 2001 Ram near 6,000# with a heavy in bed tool box.

[JKJavelin]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
JK have you ever weighed your rear axle loaded? I am betting you are over-inflating for your load.

Sure, I go to the scale a couple times a year. In June the rear axle was 6780, and the RAWR is 7000.
I believe the Firestone chart would call for 75 lbs, so I wouldn't say I'm out of line.

[Cummins12V98]

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Op the truck looks nice. 17 is a good year as is 15, 18.

Not 13, 14, or 16? :h

The 13 and 14 had dual rads but still not a deal breaker. Somehow I’ll manage to change that pesky Y coolant fitting which I’m sure will take a whole 10 minutes. :R

OOPS I missed 16. 13 and 14 are good but the 15's -18's have a better overall track record. Source, years as a member on the TDR.

Lol I remember the guy on there that had a 2014 that he used for hotshotting and it had a pile of trouble free miles on it when he traded it in. But whatever makes you happy! 😉

Sorry if I upset you. Not intended.

I did say 13 and 14 were good. What else could make you happy?

I love my 15 but a 16 is better. HATE my backup camera in the rear view mirror!!!

[mudfuel07]

Thought the 17's had the CP3 pump? Either way, love mine, had one transmission issue under warranty. And yes, my black aftermarket rims look funny because of all the brake dust on them and I use the EB all the time.

[blofgren]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Op the truck looks nice. 17 is a good year as is 15, 18.

Not 13, 14, or 16? :h

The 13 and 14 had dual rads but still not a deal breaker. Somehow I’ll manage to change that pesky Y coolant fitting which I’m sure will take a whole 10 minutes. :R

OOPS I missed 16. 13 and 14 are good but the 15's -18's have a better overall track record. Source, years as a member on the TDR.

Lol I remember the guy on there that had a 2014 that he used for hotshotting and it had a pile of trouble free miles on it when he traded it in. But whatever makes you happy! 😉