Looking for Tire Advice.

[Barkoff]

Lance 950, 1997 Dodge Ram 2500. 4X4

Airbags, new shocks, new sway-bar, load stabilizers.

Have been running this set-up on 16" E rated tires. Not content with being up at the limitations of these tires, and the amount of rocking the camper gives me, I explored two options, converting to 19.5 or converting the truck to duals.

The dual conversion is just too much, so I will be going with a 19.5 and though I hope it cuts down some of the rocking, for the most part I wanted piece of mind that I cut the chances down of a blow out.

Bought a set of Vision Heavy Haulers, 19.5 X 7.5, now it is time to take on the overwhelming task of choosing the right tire. Willing to pay for a good tire, but not a $2000 set of tires.

Suggestions, experience?

[Pete_k]

I have Toyo's on the 19.5's that was on my truck with my truck camper. They cost me $1300. 4 225/70R 19's tires mounted and balanced 3 years ago.
Put new steer tires on my C5500 Kodiak. And found nice looking tires for $135. delivered to my door. Have over 5000 miles and like them better than the Toyo's. There Gladiator QR55ST I have the 225/70R 19.5's. At the price these were, I can run a few sets for the prices of Higher end tires.
Buddy of mine has these same tires on his Class A motor home. And there holding up good. He ran up on over a dozen people that had been running them last winter in Fl.
And a Guy I know has been running these in 22.5's on a fleet of trucks and trailers. His results are great and even out lasting some of the $400. each tires and he gets a big Discount as they buy a 40ft container full at a time.
Pete

[Reddog1]

ISBRAM wrote:
The 245's on my Ram are 33.5"s tall and really fill the front fender wheel opening without rubbing. I don’t think I would be able to say the same with a 265 without a lift.

My 1996 Dodge is 2WD. To run the 245's, I had to trim bumper/plastic and totally remove the plastic inner wheel wells.

If the OP goes with the 245's, I doubt any trimming would be necessary. I have no exposure to the 265's, so I have no input.

Wayne

[Reddog1]

Barkoff wrote:

Reddog1 wrote:

Barkoff wrote:
IMENSIONS: 19.5" x 7.5" "APPROVED 19.5" TIRE SIZES* 245/265/285/70R19.5

Why we are at it, would you folks think a 245 or 265 would be a better choice for a single tire application?

I do not see any 225's on that list.

My suggestion is to look at a given tire manufacturer's recommendation for the wheel size for a given tire size.

Useful data (some wheel widths): Michelin Truck Tire Data Book

You might find the wheel width for a given tire size here: tire size rim width

Personally, I would ask the manufacture of the tire I am interested in.

Wayne

I'm confused here, why would I need a 225 as opposed to a 246 or 265? Wouldn't 225's be a better fit for a dually set-up?

I think maybe you are reading into my post. I made a simple statement; "I do not see any 225's on that list." Some folks do run the 225's, and not as dually's. The load capacity is slightly greater with the 225's, and the sidewall is much less prone to sway as singles or duals, in my opinion.

Personally, the 245 or 265 are a simple matter of bling bling. My 245 load capacity is 4940 pounds per tire, or 9880 pounds per axle. My 4200 pound 11.5 Bigfoot TC and rear axle is about 6400 pounds. I see no benefit to the 265's, but do see additional cost. Keep in mind, when you compare cost of a given tire size, it must be with the same manufacture.

I do not know who "IMENSIONS" is.

I think I should give a disclaimer. I am not affiliated with any
tire manufacture. I am aware there are only about a dozen or less tire manufactures in the world. My preference is to use a known name manufacture, rather than a tire contracted out to a tire manufacture. I choose not to argue this, but will simply say it may be worth dong the homework and reading the links provided. I tend to put more credence into the manufactures data than a retailer.


Wayne

[mbloof]

Here's my 265/70 19.5 Toyo's on my front end. (LesSchawb had to cut off a bunch of front bumper for them to fit) 🙂

I think every model+brand+size has its own speed rating. Some can be rated much lower than typical LT tires.



I believe both Vision and Rickson used to offer narrower than 7.5" rims for fitting the smaller tires.

[ISBRAM]

The 245's on my Ram are 33.5"s tall and really fill the front fender wheel opening without rubbing. I don’t think I would be able to say the same with a 265 without a lift.

[Buzzcut1]

the 245s in a 19.5 are just slightly taller than your 265s Es and give you a much higher load rating and less sidewall flex.

[Barkoff]

Buzzcut1 wrote:
In commercial 19.5 its not just the load rating and tire size you need to also pay attention to the speed rating

225s have a L speed rating. Thats 75mph max
245s and 265s have an M speed rating, Thats 87mpg max

Thanks. My E's were 265s was kind of thinking I would stick with those in a 19.5. I very rarely go over 65mph

Never realized there was so much to tires. I know the local tire shop which I will purchase from pushes the Hercules, but I have heard a lot of negativity here online in regards to those. Hankook seem to get a little better reviews, not sure if Yokahama makes tires for this size rim.

I was hoping to get some feedback before I go in and talk to my tire shop so as not to be talked into a tire with a bad reputation.

[Buzzcut1]

In commercial 19.5 its not just the load rating and tire size you need to also pay attention to the speed rating

225s have a L speed rating. Thats 75mph max
245s and 265s have an M speed rating, Thats 87mpg max

[Barkoff]

Reddog1 wrote:

Barkoff wrote:
IMENSIONS: 19.5" x 7.5" "APPROVED 19.5" TIRE SIZES* 245/265/285/70R19.5

Why we are at it, would you folks think a 245 or 265 would be a better choice for a single tire application?

I do not see any 225's on that list.

My suggestion is to look at a given tire manufacturer's recommendation for the wheel size for a given tire size.

Useful data (some wheel widths): Michelin Truck Tire Data Book

You might find the wheel width for a given tire size here: tire size rim width

Personally, I would ask the manufacture of the tire I am interested in.

Wayne

I'm confused here, why would I need a 225 as opposed to a 246 or 265? Wouldn't 225's be a better fit for a dually set-up?

[Reddog1]

Barkoff wrote:
IMENSIONS: 19.5" x 7.5" "APPROVED 19.5" TIRE SIZES* 245/265/285/70R19.5

Why we are at it, would you folks think a 245 or 265 would be a better choice for a single tire application?

I do not see any 225's on that list.

My suggestion is to look at a given tire manufacturer's recommendation for the wheel size for a given tire size.

Useful data (some wheel widths): Michelin Truck Tire Data Book

You might find the wheel width for a given tire size here: tire size rim width

Personally, I would ask the manufacture of the tire I am interested in.

Wayne

[Barkoff]

IMENSIONS: 19.5" x 7.5" "APPROVED 19.5" TIRE SIZES* 245/265/285/70R19.5

Why we are at it, would you folks think a 245 or 265 would be a better choice for a single tire application?

[Barkoff]

Reddog1 wrote:
Not much gain with the 225's, and the wheels (7.5) are too wide. I do not know if the 265's are too wide for the 7.5 wheels. I suggest you look into the wheel with for a given tire size.

My truck is a 1996 Dodge 2500 2WD. I went with Michelin Mud&Snow 245's about seven years ago. I think they cost me just under $400 each. I have had no issues with them at all. they do sing, or did, but I adapted to the singing. I definitely have a stiff ride with an empty truck. I got used to that as well.

The 19.5's will definitely reduce the sway due to heavier sidewalls.

Wayne

Why would Vison wheels make a rim that does not have a range of tire options? 19.5 7.5 is the only size they offer for that wheel. It is the size Rickson sells also.
You do realize the 2500 has single tires all the way around?

[kbaum]

I have the Toyo 608z's with the 245 size. They do hum but they provide good traction on snow packed and icy roads and are good off road (gravel toads etc...). It took a few thousand miles to break them in, they felt a little squirrelly to me, but since them they have been awesome!

[Reddog1]

Not much gain with the 225's, and the wheels (7.5) are too wide. I do not know if the 265's are too wide for the 7.5 wheels. I suggest you look into the wheel with for a given tire size.

My truck is a 1996 Dodge 2500 2WD. I went with Michelin Mud&Snow 245's about seven years ago. I think they cost me just under $400 each. I have had no issues with them at all. they do sing, or did, but I adapted to the singing. I definitely have a stiff ride with an empty truck. I got used to that as well.

The 19.5's will definitely reduce the sway due to heavier sidewalls.

Wayne