Manufacturer Says this is OK

[JumboJet]

I drew the 'wavy' red line where the manufacturer says the COG is located. They also say this TC is designed for LWB or SWB 3/4 Ton and higher trucks.

Would you do this?

Yes, it does have a full wall slide-out and one of those nice fancy step/storage bumpers.

[Bedlam]

I am used to seeing the rear tie downs at an opposite angle to the front and not in the same direction.

[dadwolf2]

Bedlam wrote:


3. The fact that the rear tie down angle is off shows this camper is not a good fit for any short bed.

What is "off" with the tie downs? On a long bed the front tiedown angle wouldn't change and the back tiedown would be close to straight up and down. Would that make it right?

[deltabravo]

cleary wrote:
Here's the camper loading instructions that came with my truck from Ford.

Chuck

Kind of comical that they show a drawing of an F150.

[billtex]

mkirsch wrote:

billtex wrote:
Copy/paste from our 06 Chevy Owners manual;

Here is an example of proper truck and camper match:
A. Camper Center of Gravity
B. Recommended Center of Gravity Location Zone
When the truck is used to carry a slide-in camper, the
total cargo load of the truck consists of the
manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
installed additional camper equipment not included in
the manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
camper cargo, and the weight of passengers in the
camper. The total cargo load should not exceed
the truck’s cargo weight rating and the camper’s center
of gravity (A) should fall within the truck’s recommended
center of gravity zone (B) when installed.

The "zone" in the picture (could not paste) is the entire wheel well...
Of course, the more mass you can shift toward the front axle the better the vehicle should handle as the majority will be over the rear.
B

It is NOT "the entire wheel well."

There are dimensions on the inside of the glove compartment lid that define the front and back of that zone.

My 2003 Chevy 1500 defines the zone as 0" to 78" measured from one end of the bed or the other. It has a 6-1/2' (78") bed.

IIRC my 2002 Chevy 3500 lists 0" and 96".

In the 06 manual it is shown as a zone the size of the wheel well...

[mkirsch]

billtex wrote:
Copy/paste from our 06 Chevy Owners manual;

Here is an example of proper truck and camper match:
A. Camper Center of Gravity
B. Recommended Center of Gravity Location Zone
When the truck is used to carry a slide-in camper, the
total cargo load of the truck consists of the
manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
installed additional camper equipment not included in
the manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
camper cargo, and the weight of passengers in the
camper. The total cargo load should not exceed
the truck’s cargo weight rating and the camper’s center
of gravity (A) should fall within the truck’s recommended
center of gravity zone (B) when installed.

The "zone" in the picture (could not paste) is the entire wheel well...
Of course, the more mass you can shift toward the front axle the better the vehicle should handle as the majority will be over the rear.
B

It is NOT "the entire wheel well."

There are dimensions on the inside of the glove compartment lid that define the front and back of that zone.

My 2003 Chevy 1500 defines the zone as 0" to 78" measured from one end of the bed or the other. It has a 6-1/2' (78") bed.

IIRC my 2002 Chevy 3500 lists 0" and 96".

[JumboJet]

deltabravo wrote:

jimh425 wrote:
...Assuming it is a Lance 1050s as the picture description says.

I think it's just that JJ uploaded in to t folder in his phoobucket acount named "Lance"

lance doesn't use Happihjacs, which the camper in he photo has.

I reckon its a Eagle Cap camper, I conclude that because of the large latches on the compartment doors (EC calls them SLAM LATCHES)
and the graphics.

Been offline today.

Yes it is an Eagle Cap. No it is not my truck or camper.

The camper was picked up yesterday and the picture posted of Facebook by one of my FB friends.

I saw the space between the rear of the truck and the camper and the angle of the rear tie down and said to myself "What!?"

The COG mark came from a brochure for that TC. Maybe the COG mark on the driver's side is different than the passenger side, but why would it be?

Just didn't look right to me, but it may be the best setup on the road today!

[billtex]

Copy/paste from our 06 Chevy Owners manual;

Here is an example of proper truck and camper match:
A. Camper Center of Gravity
B. Recommended Center of Gravity Location Zone
When the truck is used to carry a slide-in camper, the
total cargo load of the truck consists of the
manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
installed additional camper equipment not included in
the manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
camper cargo, and the weight of passengers in the
camper. The total cargo load should not exceed
the truck’s cargo weight rating and the camper’s center
of gravity (A) should fall within the truck’s recommended
center of gravity zone (B) when installed.

The "zone" in the picture (could not paste) is the entire wheel well...
Of course, the more mass you can shift toward the front axle the better the vehicle should handle as the majority will be over the rear.
B

[mkirsch]

COG is a range in the bed and it is specified on the glove box sticker and/or in the owner's manual.

On my 2002 the COG range figures out as the ENTIRE length of the bed!!! As long as the COG of the camper falls *SOMEWHERE*, *ANYWHERE*, in the bed, Chevy says it's OK.

[Bonesquatch]

Most rental trailers and trucks are boldly printed with "Not to exceed 55 mph" or something to that effect too. Not many follow these recommendations. Same with food portions. Ever check the recommended serving for potato chips?
Still, those recommendations exist for a reason and when something just LOOKS awkward, I'm leery.
Best suggestions above are to check the weight capability of the truck and then the weight of the camper. The balance might not be perfect but at least you'll know if you're grossly overweight.

[jimh406]

Recommend doesn't equal nothing else works. As far as the camper brand goes, I'm not sure why there was stealth. It would be easier to discuss if we actually had the model/brand. Oh well.

[jmtandem]

From the previous post, it doesn't look to me like Ford recommends the COG behind the axle by maybe more than an inch or two. Kind of hard to tell from the sketch.

[cleary]

Here's the camper loading instructions that came with my truck from Ford.

Chuck

[jmtandem]

Instead of asking the camper manufacturer if it is OK, why not ask the truck manufacturer if they think that amount of weight that far back is OK? You just might get a different answer. And some truck manufacturer's provide that answer in your glove compartment on a piece of paper that discusses camper loading with the new truck. I know Dodge Rams have it.

[mooring_product]

Short bed/big camper club.

Ram 3500 Lance 881 by MooringProduct, on Flickr

[billtex]

Assume this is a very...similar?...camper to our EC850. You can see the COG is directly above our axle (BTW GM shows a "range" for COG centered around the axle in their Camper Loading Guide).
You can also see our truck is a (06) SB.
Anyway, EC says the COG has shifted FORWARD 1" with the 2015 full wall slide...so I am confused why you are clearly showing the COG behind the rear axle.
How long is your bed?
I also took off the "guides" that EC provides...they keep the camper ~3" off the bed wall. This allows me to load forward a ~ 2" which helps put more on the front axle.
FYI; I did add Supersprings and rear anti-sway bar which both helped a lot.
The truck handles fine, we have done 5k+ miles this summer with the new camper...
We pretty much always leave with a full h20 tank (49 gals). Love the EC850; the floor space, inside and outside storage, and large tanks are incredible for a SB camper.
Very pleased so far...our 1 yr anniversary with it this month.

Agree with kohldad...pictures can skew things...and you really will need to visit the scales to know for sure.

Do tell about the "mystery" camper in your pic...