Michelin XDS2 vs Toyo M608Z

[n0arp]

I have a 2015 2500HD and am running Michelin XDS2 245/70r19.5 tires on Vision 81 wheels. They have around 8K miles on them, and have been great tires, but I want to bump up the size a little bit and possibly move to a slightly more aggressive tread pattern. I figure that sooner than later is better, as the fewer miles they have on them, the better the resale value will be.

The tires I am looking at to replace them are Toyo M608Z 285/70r19.5s, which are a 35.4x11" tire. Current tires, for the record, are 33.6x9.7".

What I would like to know is if anyone has any first hand experience with both of these tires, and how they feel they compare. Are there any major losses I'll see with the M608Z aside from the obvious (mileage and gearing)? Thanks.

[S_Davis]

I am running Toyo M608 in 245/70/19.5 on my work truck, I have about 22,000 on them and it looks like I will get 50,000 or more. They are noisey and take a while to break in, they had real bad tread squirm when new. They have been great in the snow, ice and rain and just ok in mud. This is on a 3/4 ton diesel with about 4,000lbs in the bed.

[ksss]

I ran Dunlops on my 5500 GMC 4X4. Cant remember the tire model but the tread was made up of interlocking blocks, great tires, they last and they were great off road and in the Winter, amazing bite shear ice.

[blt2ski]

IIRC, lowering pressures on the 19.5 tires is not a good thing like on the 16" equals I've had. As I recall, the rim to tire locking mechanism is not as strong from a lower psi standpoint. So running 50-70 lbs in the 285-19.5 that one would want with a pickup, might damage them sooner than later.

I would agree with Brian too, on the Double coins are not as good per say as the M or T branded tires. BUT< if one drives 10K a year, vs 20-30K miles.....as I am in my navistar currently......I'l year wear out the tires way before I will the tread part. So going cheap as I did for the fronts last time around is working out well!

Marty

[carringb]

I've had them. Like Marty notes, they are very similar to the M55 tires. The carcass is stiffer however, so you can't airdown like you can in the M55s. If you are underloaded, they will wear down the center pretty quick. They can be squirley on pavement when new but settle down after ~1,000 miles, but drifting a roll-back is more fun than you'd think 😜

I haven't tried the XDS.

BTW - the 608s easily last more than double the life of the "Double Coin" tires Les Schwab's sells as a low-cost alternative.

[blt2ski]

I've had and still run the XDE M+S michilen on the rear of my dump truck. I believe that is the predecessor to the XDSII. No complaints.

I have not run the Toyo in question. I did have a set of M55's on the rear of a dually pickup. Happy with those too.

I would say that the two I've had experience with, the TOYO is slightly more aggressive. Both tires carried loads well, had decent road, snow and ice traction, and were reasonable on dirt and mud situations.

Not sure which is really better per say.......

Marty

[pianotuna]

Hi,

On the advice of my dealer who sells both Michelin and Toyo, I went with Toyo.