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โOct-06-2014 02:19 PM
2014 Ram Laramie 3500 dually
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โOct-10-2014 09:38 AM
2005 Dodge 3500 - Dually- Cummins
2006 Outback 27 RSDS
We also have with us two rescue dogs. A Chihuahua mix & a Catahoula mix.
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โOct-10-2014 07:17 AM
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I'm not sure if this would be considered scientific enough, but here's articles for the University of Maryland Extension (Link 1) and Cornell University/Rockland County Extension (Link 2). Both articles specifically uses the word "drown". There's actually articles from quite a few extensions that use the word drown. That's what leads me to believe that the ultimate cause of death is asphyxiation. I've never ran across an article mentioning dehydration when relating to the soap method. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I've just never seen one. Maybe the idea of drowning is just a misnomer. Maybe what's going on is a combination of drowning and dehydration. I'm not trying to challenge you or downplay your experience or credentials in any way. I'm just interested in what's going on.
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โOct-09-2014 09:52 AM
proxim2020 wrote:Dog Folks wrote:
I would not worry, as Florida already has stink bugs. Your concern is admirable.
proxim2020 said:"The soap cuts through the waxy protective coating and clogs the pores."
Just to clarify, the soap does not "clog the pores." It does,as stated, remove the waxy layer.
This eliminates the ability of the insect to retain water, therefore they dehydrate and die.
I guess that's possible, but it's actually suffocation that kills them. Just like all insects, stink bugs breathe through their spiracles which is protected by the waxy coating on their shells. The soap acts as a surfactant stripping away the coating. This allows the soap and water to enter the spiracles preventing oxygen from entering. The bug then suffocates and dies.
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I know the article applies to squash bugs, but they are quite similar to stink bugs and are part of the same Heteroptera family.
FYI, in most insects and other insect like animals, the spiracles do not work like that. Imagine an inward opening valve into a larger chamber. (It is called, appropriately, the atrium) The animal can open and close the spiracle with voluntary muscle movements. So they can close, and eliminate any water/soap intrusion easily. Kinda like closing your mouth and pinching nostrils. No air flow or other exchange will take place.
Although it is possible that physically, a soap bubble will clog the spiracle opening, it is not not the major cause of death.
It is well established that dessication/dehydration is.
Sorry, you source is not scientifically vetted. I have studied entomology the University OF Florida, am court approved as an expert witness regarding insects and their control,and spent 30 very profitable years in the insect business.
No offense is meant or implied. As further discussion would be far of topic so I will not provide any commentary on the matter.
You are certainly welcome to believe what you wish.
No matter what HAPPY CAMPING!!
2005 Dodge 3500 - Dually- Cummins
2006 Outback 27 RSDS
We also have with us two rescue dogs. A Chihuahua mix & a Catahoula mix.
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โOct-09-2014 07:38 AM
Dog Folks wrote:
I would not worry, as Florida already has stink bugs. Your concern is admirable.
proxim2020 said:"The soap cuts through the waxy protective coating and clogs the pores."
Just to clarify, the soap does not "clog the pores." It does,as stated, remove the waxy layer.
This eliminates the ability of the insect to retain water, therefore they dehydrate and die.
I guess that's possible, but it's actually suffocation that kills them. Just like all insects, stink bugs breathe through their spiracles which is protected by the waxy coating on their shells. The soap acts as a surfactant stripping away the coating. This allows the soap and water to enter the spiracles preventing oxygen from entering. The bug then suffocates and dies.
Link
I know the article applies to squash bugs, but they are quite similar to stink bugs and are part of the same Heteroptera family.
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โOct-07-2014 10:11 AM
2013 Rockwood Ultra Lite 2604 - new family
2007 Rockwood ROO HTT - new family
2003 Ford F-150
4 doggies - We support Adopt/Rescue.
Sam, you were the best!
Cubbie, Foxy, Biscuit and Lily - all rescues!
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โOct-07-2014 09:47 AM
proxim2020 said:"The soap cuts through the waxy protective coating and clogs the pores."
Just to clarify, the soap does not "clog the pores." It does,as stated, remove the waxy layer.
This eliminates the ability of the insect to retain water, therefore they dehydrate and die.
2005 Dodge 3500 - Dually- Cummins
2006 Outback 27 RSDS
We also have with us two rescue dogs. A Chihuahua mix & a Catahoula mix.
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โOct-07-2014 07:47 AM
2014 Fleetwood Bounder 33C
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more than 1700 days on the road
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โOct-07-2014 07:08 AM
Washing the trailer is a very good idea. Soapy solutions will trap and kill them. They breathe through pores in their shell. The soap cuts through the waxy protective coating and clogs the pores. However, they're very good at finding hiding spots and can keep a pretty good grip to the surface they're on, so there's a good chance that some won't just blow away while going down the road. I doubt that RVers are mostly responsible for the local invasion. They're fairly strong fliers with no natural enemies here in America. They have enemies, but non that are naturally attracted or targets them. With those conditions they can spread pretty quickly. I have to give you kudos for at least not wanted to add to the problem.
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โOct-07-2014 05:13 AM
Camping Buddies: Maddie (maltese/westie?), Kramer (chi/terrier?), and Lido (yellow lab)
2017 Keystone Bullet 248RKS
2014 Aliner Expedition Off Road
2013 Ram 1500 HEMI
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โOct-06-2014 07:52 PM
majorgator wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it. You're a tiny fish in a huge sea of insect carriers that are already on the road. Buy maybe some of the people who are in FL now can carry some these dang love bugs back with them.
We started back to NC with a load but they fell off about Tifton. Had a particularly amorous couple hanging on the rear view mirror for so long we were making bets on whether
they would make it to Atlanta. Lizzie
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โOct-06-2014 06:06 PM
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โOct-06-2014 06:04 PM
But, it would be just about impossible to wash all of them off your RV.
They're not just on the outside surfaces. They will be on the chassis and underneath the RV.
And, I'm sure there a few hiding inside.
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โOct-06-2014 04:58 PM
It is a stinky problem to have, that's for sure. ๐
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Both born in Morgan Hill, CA to Irv Perch (Daddy of the Aristocrat trailers)
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โOct-06-2014 03:35 PM
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