SoundGuy wrote:Ralph Cramden wrote:
A tire is not going to contract enough when cooling down to loosen an X chock unless the person installing it's IQ was less than the X chocks IQ. That's a stretch of a comment, physics or not. How much does one contract? 1/10000 of an inch?
Your feeble attempt to insult another forum member just because you don't agree with the point being made doesn't change the FACT that trailer tires do shrink noticeably as they cool. I know that to be FACT because my own X-Chocks installed when the tires are hot do loosen to the point where they will fall out of position if not periodically retightened as they cool. I've measured this contraction at ground level where my BAL Single Tire Locking Chocks sit between the tires of our precious K-Z Spree to be as much as a 1/4". When we bought our most recent travel trailer I discovered that the axle spread of just 29" provided insufficient space between the 14" tires to reliably insert the BAL locking chocks so I came up with another solution. That solution was a pair of rubber chocks between each set of adjacent tires, using hardwood spacers of varying widths to ensure each chock snugged against it's respective tire.
However, since the tires shrink as they cook that meant I had to make up a SET of hardwood spacers of varying widths as those inserted when we first set up would have to be replaced with wider spacers as the tires cooled.
Had I been able to continue using the adjustable BAL locking chock I would have because expanding it as the tires cool was a simple matter of periodically giving the adjusting screw a couple of turns ... I couldn't so this rubber chock / spacer system was the next best solution. Norco's warning isn't a CYA, it's a reminder of the FACT that physics does play a part here ... there's no way around it, X-Chocks are not designed for or intended to be used to actually chock the trailer and secure it from inadvertently rolling away. For sure, it's your personal choice if you want to ignore this advice but that doesn't change the FACTS of the matter.
Feeble attempt to insult? LOL.
If my intent was to insult, you would have known it clearly.
More proof that here at RVnet you can take something that is as simple as it can be^^^^^^, and turn it into some ritual bordering on O.C.D. I hope your carrying a properly calibrated dial caliper so you know the correct hardwood spacer to choose? As far as the tire shrinking enough when it cools to loosen an X chock I'm still calling Bullsheet on that one.
RV Forums....complicating the uncomplicated since 1837.
By the way your use of CAPS to attempt to get your skewed opinions across is insulting, and not feebly LOL.
Ralph Cramden wrote:
A tire is not going to contract enough when cooling down to loosen an X chock unless the person installing it's IQ was less than the X chocks IQ. That's a stretch of a comment, physics or not. How much does one contract? 1/10000 of an inch?
Your feeble attempt to insult another forum member just because you don't agree with the point being made doesn't change the FACT that trailer tires do shrink noticeably as they cool. I know that to be FACT because my own X-Chocks installed when the tires are hot do loosen to the point where they will fall out of position if not periodically retightened as they cool. I've measured this contraction at ground level where my BAL Single Tire Locking Chocks sit between the tires of our precious K-Z Spree to be as much as a 1/4". When we bought our most recent travel trailer I discovered that the axle spread of just 29" provided insufficient space between the 14" tires to reliably insert the BAL locking chocks so I came up with another solution. That solution was a pair of rubber chocks between each set of adjacent tires, using hardwood spacers of varying widths to ensure each chock snugged against it's respective tire.
However, since the tires shrink as they cook that meant I had to make up a SET of hardwood spacers of varying widths as those inserted when we first set up would have to be replaced with wider spacers as the tires cooled.
Had I been able to continue using the adjustable BAL locking chock I would have because expanding it as the tires cool was a simple matter of periodically giving the adjusting screw a couple of turns ... I couldn't so this rubber chock / spacer system was the next best solution. Norco's warning isn't a CYA, it's a reminder of the FACT that physics does play a part here ... there's no way around it, X-Chocks are not designed for or intended to be used to actually chock the trailer and secure it from inadvertently rolling away. For sure, it's your personal choice if you want to ignore this advice but that doesn't change the FACTS of the matter.
SoundGuy wrote:bartlettj wrote:
Xchocks are only for stability, not safety, and they will pop right out with enough force. Please use real wedge chocks.
Warning note included in every box of BAL X-Chocks sold ...
FACT is, tires shrink as they cool so X-Chocks installed during your setup process will loosen ... it's simple physics. Nevertheless some will claim this warning is just a manufacturer CYA :R ... unfortunately you can't fix stupid. :S
That is not what that means unless that is what you want to read into it.
It's to protect the X chock from potential damage should some idiot raise the landing gear or tongue jack an excessive amount after installing them. The tires could come together with enough force to bend them or something else depending on the the specific situation.
A tire is not going to contract enough when cooling down to loosen an X chock unless the person installing it's IQ was less than the X chocks IQ. That's a stretch of a comment, physics or not. How much does one contract? 1/10000 of an inch?
I will continue to use my X chocks just the same as I have for the last 10 years on 3 different trailers. I have not had one loosen due to tires cooling down ever and have had to use the ratchet to get them out every single time.
All of that said I will warn you not to get a site downhill from me in advance. I could be putting the safety of your entire family at risk but if we don't pile into you and I wake up, I'll be sure wave when flying past. :S :B
bartlettj wrote:
Xchocks are only for stability, not safety, and they will pop right out with enough force. Please use real wedge chocks.
Warning note included in every box of BAL X-Chocks sold ...
FACT is, tires shrink as they cool so X-Chocks installed during your setup process will loosen ... it's simple physics. Nevertheless some will claim this warning is just a manufacturer CYA :R ... unfortunately you can't fix stupid. :S
