RAM passes FORD in HD sales.

[Me_Again]

Reading "Heavy Duty Trucking" Jan 2016 issue. HDT and other trade mags publish sales reports for various classes of trucks sorted by brand and class.
For November 2015 in class 3,4,5, 10001-19500 lb class, Ram outsold Ford 43.01 percent to 35.14 percent. A pretty good margin.

Ram, Nov 12,345/ YTD 141,423/ 43.01 percent
Ford, Nov 10,307/ YTD 115,553/ 35.14 percent
Chevrolet Nov 2867/ YTD 34,497/ 10.49 percent

Other brands in this class are; Freightliner, GMC, HINO, International, Isuzu, KW, Mitsubishi for a total of 328,819 units.

truckinginfo.com

[mich800]

NC Hauler wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

YnotTurbo wrote:
I love my Ram truck,, but really have never looked at who sold the most trucks. I do not have stock in the company so I guess its not a big deal... I do like the fact that my new 3500 tows as much if not more than a F450.. 🙂

Rear axle rating on my 3500 RAM Dually is 9,750# the F450 is 9,100# both trucks are SAE J2807 rated.

But it looks like the F350 is 9,650. Odd, I don't know what the difference is.

100#?:B

True. But I was comparing the other one. 🙂 Must be like one of those Facebook math memes where everyone gets the wrong answer.

[NC_Hauler]

mich800 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

YnotTurbo wrote:
I love my Ram truck,, but really have never looked at who sold the most trucks. I do not have stock in the company so I guess its not a big deal... I do like the fact that my new 3500 tows as much if not more than a F450.. 🙂

Rear axle rating on my 3500 RAM Dually is 9,750# the F450 is 9,100# both trucks are SAE J2807 rated.

But it looks like the F350 is 9,650. Odd, I don't know what the difference is.

100#?:B

[mich800]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

YnotTurbo wrote:
I love my Ram truck,, but really have never looked at who sold the most trucks. I do not have stock in the company so I guess its not a big deal... I do like the fact that my new 3500 tows as much if not more than a F450.. 🙂

Rear axle rating on my 3500 RAM Dually is 9,750# the F450 is 9,100# both trucks are SAE J2807 rated.

But it looks like the F350 is 9,650. Odd, I don't know what the difference is.

[Cummins12V98]

Me Again wrote:

Vintage465 wrote:
I think it's kind of interesting that everyone is talking about the engines. I bought my GMC Denali based nearly entirely on the transmission. Strongest one available, bullet proof record. Engines? All of them have massive horsepower and torque, though Dodge is ridiculous on the torque factor. And the bottom line is............buy what you want! We're not in highschool anymore, we don't always have to own the most popular and always be right or the flavor of the month.

Actual the Allison 1000 has run out of gas at current Duramax ratings, and they have dropped out of the HP/torque race. The FORD Torque Shift transmission and the Aisin are both much stronger and very reliable.

Chris

Sir you beat me to it! The Aisin is a TRUE Medium Duty Trans, along with the MediumDuty Cummins is a solid combo.

The Allison in the LD trucks is not the same as in MD applications. Yes it is a great trans but as Chris points out it needs a Major updating.

[Cummins12V98]

YnotTurbo wrote:
I love my Ram truck,, but really have never looked at who sold the most trucks. I do not have stock in the company so I guess its not a big deal... I do like the fact that my new 3500 tows as much if not more than a F450.. 🙂

Rear axle rating on my 3500 RAM Dually is 9,750# the F450 is 9,100# both trucks are SAE J2807 rated.

[Cummins12V98]

"So the way I read this, it is just 1 ton and above trucks included in this. Wonder what the real truck sales figures would be? "

I "LIKE" sales comparisons like these because I will never own anything less than a DRW 3500. Reason??? Because not a one of them can hook up to 23K right out of the box and sit like this with 9,580# on the rear tires and handle that weight with ease.

[Cummins12V98]

spud1957 wrote:
Good on Ram. Would the Cummins be a big reason?

GM's number are really small.

Dependability is the reason. As in the entire truck. The VAST majority of privately owned trucks are RAM that are towing RV's or HotShotting. They even use them to haul Fords. They are now used for Ambulances and Tow Trucks replacing Fords.

[Me_Again]

RAM seems to have claimed the majority of ambulance, wrecker, and armored car business in the last couple years with their 4500/5500 models. Ford owned that segment for many years, however I think the cost of ownership killed it for them.

Chris

[NC_Hauler]

06Fargo wrote:
You Ford and Ram guys just wait unit new "HD" Chebby hits the market

Looks good to me, (but remember, 35 yrs with Chevy trucks for me)...That truck is overkill in my case....wife, myself AND the dogs would have a heck of a time climbing in and out of it...I'll stick with the farm tractor engine powered pick up

[NC_Hauler]

06Fargo wrote:
You Ford and Ram guys just wait unit new "HD" Chebby hits the market

Looks good to me, )but remember, 35 yrs with Chevy trucks for me)...That truck is overkill in my case....wife, myself AND the dogs would have a heck of a time climbing in and out of it...I'll stick with the farm tractor engine powered pick up :B

[Vintage465]

mich800 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

travelnutz wrote:
Me Again,

"GM 397 Horsepower & 765 lb-ft of torque
RAM 385 Horsepower & 900 lb-ft of torque
Ford 440 Horsepower & 850 lb-ft of torque"

And yet the Duramax with only 765 lb-ft of torque that runs circles in performance around the Ram with its so-claimed 900 lb-ft of torque and the D'max gets much better fuel economy doing so. Gee, I wonder who is exaggerating their actual torque numbers delivered to the drive wheels like they always have? It's only torque that turns the drive wheels and nothing else but maybe you'd forgotten that!

Will admit Ford or Chevy will dust me "street light to street light", but for steady, stout mountain towing...this slow off the line Ram has proven itself to me as a Daily driver and as a TV, towing fairly heavy over some curvy, mountainous terrain..If I went by who won all these tow contest, I'd own a Ford or a GM/Chevy...Owned the D/A, loved it, won't say anything bad about it, but tried the Ram in 2010, and just ordered a 16'..I'm kind of a "like the underdog/ un-popular" type and "let's try something else just for the heck of it", and really do like the Ram...and haven't really owned one long enough to be labeled a "fan boy":B (Chevy-35 years...Ram, 6 yrs this summer)

Plus what is "run circles around in performance"? If we are talking speed it still comes down to horsepower. They are all capable of moving the loads they are designed for. I think some lose sight of just how advanced, powerful, and comfortable all these new trucks have become. The fuel economy is becoming a non issue now that they all have figured out ways to conform with the new epa requirements and not kill mpg. I think if anyone is disappointed with any of these trucks they are probably too picky and would never be happy no matter which brand they chose.

Gonna say, Mich800 has it right! They're all good. Everyone has their "thing" they like about their Pickup. I like the Allison, my wife likes the wider "foot room" on the passenger side of the vehicle. That's what does it for us.

[wilber1]

travelnutz wrote:
Me Again,

"GM 397 Horsepower & 765 lb-ft of torque
RAM 385 Horsepower & 900 lb-ft of torque
Ford 440 Horsepower & 850 lb-ft of torque"

And yet the Duramax with only 765 lb-ft of torque that runs circles in performance around the Ram with its so-claimed 900 lb-ft of torque and the D'max gets much better fuel economy doing so. Gee, I wonder who is exaggerating their actual torque numbers delivered to the drive wheels like they always have? It's only torque that turns the drive wheels and nothing else but maybe you'd forgotten that!

Torque is about drivability, HP is about performance. My early 11 Ram makes 650 Lb ft, later models make 800. They both make 350HP at about 3000 RPM. Pulling up a hill at peak power we will both get to the top at the same time but pulling down the highway at 1500 RPM, I will be shifting down earlier when I reach a hill because the 800 is making about 30 more HP at 1500 RPM than the 650.

[Me_Again]

06Fargo wrote:
You Ford and Ram guys just wait unit new "HD" Chebby hits the market

First one to the wreck model!!! Sitting on top of the front wheel does not lead to the best ride.

Chris

[noteven]

You Ford and Ram guys just wait unit new "HD" Chebby hits the market

[mich800]

NC Hauler wrote:

travelnutz wrote:
Me Again,

"GM 397 Horsepower & 765 lb-ft of torque
RAM 385 Horsepower & 900 lb-ft of torque
Ford 440 Horsepower & 850 lb-ft of torque"

And yet the Duramax with only 765 lb-ft of torque that runs circles in performance around the Ram with its so-claimed 900 lb-ft of torque and the D'max gets much better fuel economy doing so. Gee, I wonder who is exaggerating their actual torque numbers delivered to the drive wheels like they always have? It's only torque that turns the drive wheels and nothing else but maybe you'd forgotten that!

Will admit Ford or Chevy will dust me "street light to street light", but for steady, stout mountain towing...this slow off the line Ram has proven itself to me as a Daily driver and as a TV, towing fairly heavy over some curvy, mountainous terrain..If I went by who won all these tow contest, I'd own a Ford or a GM/Chevy...Owned the D/A, loved it, won't say anything bad about it, but tried the Ram in 2010, and just ordered a 16'..I'm kind of a "like the underdog/ un-popular" type and "let's try something else just for the heck of it", and really do like the Ram...and haven't really owned one long enough to be labeled a "fan boy":B (Chevy-35 years...Ram, 6 yrs this summer)

Plus what is "run circles around in performance"? If we are talking speed it still comes down to horsepower. They are all capable of moving the loads they are designed for. I think some lose sight of just how advanced, powerful, and comfortable all these new trucks have become. The fuel economy is becoming a non issue now that they all have figured out ways to conform with the new epa requirements and not kill mpg. I think if anyone is disappointed with any of these trucks they are probably too picky and would never be happy no matter which brand they chose.