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Ranger vs Tacoma - Ike Gauntlet

FishOnOne
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Enjoy...

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'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"
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FishOnOne
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ksss wrote:
I am not sure what the turbo in the Ranger really bought. The time up the hill was about even. I agreed with the Russian, I would have expected more from the 10 speed and more from the turbocharged engine at that elevation. Maybe there is some programing enhancements that need to be made, but with that kind output it is not going to hold up well at all to the GM twins. While I don't find the Taco masculine I just find it ugly, but the looks of the Ranger is "weak". Call it refined if it makes you feel better, but its weak. Especially when the 150 and SD trucks look so good, someone punted on the exterior design of Ranger. I was looking for this truck to honestly set the bar higher in the segment. It clearly doesn't do that. These guys give the win to the Ranger by the narrowest of margins, but the Taco is what about 7-8 model years old? I would say Ford aimed a little low with the Ranger. Ford guys will buy it, but anyone cross-shopping the others in the segment are not likely to be blown away by the new Ranger in comparison.


In my opinion Ford knocked it out of the park and is the best looking mid size bar none.

As for the 4 cylinder turbo. It's gas powered torque is second to none and it's gas fuel economy is better than the Taco.

Having said this the Taco is a great performing truck and it has a relatively new engine so Ford did a good job edging out on performance and fuel economy.

I will say anyone who's shopping for a midsize; excluding brand loyal buyers, will give the Ranger a serious look.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

ib516
Explorer II
Explorer II
FishOnOne wrote:
ib516 wrote:
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.

Cool little truck otherwise.


Can you provide a source to your comment?

From the links provided:

"A service procedure obtained by TTAC states that, after removing the left front wheel, a technician or owner must then remove an access panel secured by nine push-pin retainers. From there, one removes the filter with an end cap tool. To actually drain the oil, which of course youโ€™ll accomplish before attacking that filter, youโ€™ll first need to unbolt the power steering control module under body shield. Four bolts hold that on."
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ksss
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Explorer
I am not sure what the turbo in the Ranger really bought. The time up the hill was about even. I agreed with the Russian, I would have expected more from the 10 speed and more from the turbocharged engine at that elevation. Maybe there is some programing enhancements that need to be made, but with that kind output it is not going to hold up well at all to the GM twins. While I don't find the Taco masculine I just find it ugly, but the looks of the Ranger is "weak". Call it refined if it makes you feel better, but its weak. Especially when the 150 and SD trucks look so good, someone punted on the exterior design of Ranger. I was looking for this truck to honestly set the bar higher in the segment. It clearly doesn't do that. These guys give the win to the Ranger by the narrowest of margins, but the Taco is what about 7-8 model years old? I would say Ford aimed a little low with the Ranger. Ford guys will buy it, but anyone cross-shopping the others in the segment are not likely to be blown away by the new Ranger in comparison.
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Lynnmor
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ib516 wrote:
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.



Maybe the Ford engineer was the same one that did the design of the Ford Escape battery tray. To replace the battery, step one is: remove windshield wipers and it gets worse from there.

FishOnOne
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Me Again wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
ib516 wrote:
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.

Cool little truck otherwise.


Can you provide a source to your comment?


Start here!

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2019-ford-ranger-oil-change-difficulty/

or go directly to this link.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/diyers-take-note-the-2019-ford-rangers-oil-change-procedur...

Time for Ron to figure a route from the top, which I use on my truck.


LOL...
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
FishOnOne wrote:
ib516 wrote:
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.

Cool little truck otherwise.


Can you provide a source to your comment?


Start here!

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2019-ford-ranger-oil-change-difficulty/

or go directly to this link.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/diyers-take-note-the-2019-ford-rangers-oil-change-procedur...

Time for Ron to figure a route from the top, which I use on my truck.
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FishOnOne
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ib516 wrote:
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.

Cool little truck otherwise.


Can you provide a source to your comment?
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

ksss
Explorer
Explorer
ib516 wrote:
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.

Cool little truck otherwise.


That is a dumb design. That will be a $100 oil change if you pay to have it done.
2020 Chevy 3500 CC 4X4 DRW D/A
2013 Fuzion 342
2011 RZR Desert Tan
2012 Sea Doo GTX 155
2018 Chevy 3500HD CC LB SRW 4X4 D/A
2015 Chevy Camaro ZL1

ib516
Explorer II
Explorer II
I wonder how people will react when they learn the front wheel and inner fender liner needs to be removed just to do an oil change on the Ranger? What a dumb design.

Cool little truck otherwise.
Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV

Lwiddis
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Explorer II
Competition makes for better trucks. This Chevy guy is happy Ford is back with the Ranger.
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kw_00
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Thanks for the link, saw this last night and thought they both did well. Itโ€™s great to see another option in the mid sized truck game. It was interesting to see how the eco boost did but overall but it had similar times of the V6 taco. I hope they do a mid size shoot out with all the contenders, that would be interesting.
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