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Nov-06-2019 09:00 PM
My boss tells that one of our vehicles (an 09 Ford Explorer) was making a funny noise and wanted me to check it out. I took it for a test driver and sure enough, it was making a very strange almost like turbo noise. It almost sounded like a set of planetaries going out in the tranny.
I take it to a local shop that a friend owns and he checks it out but he can't find out where the noise was coming from so my boss said take it to the dealer.
So I make an appointment at the dealer and they can't reproduce the noise. Super nice tech. He took me for a ride to see if I could hear it again. Nope, gone. All well.
Anyway I haven't been to a dealer in a long time and when I looked at their labor board I about had myself a heart attack! $158.00/ hour!! $158.00/ hour!!
I'm out of touch!
Is this what some of you outside of Kalifornia are seeing at your Ford dealer?
Just wondered.
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Nov-09-2019 08:20 AM
Included in the quoted price were spare parts, instruction manuals (if they wanted more, yes additional cost), on site instalation till certified, basic training and 1st yearly inspection
Industrial, so they knew more about the product than general public...but Turtle, Grit & others are so NOT 'general public'...
Some of our competitors did charge for some of these basics...why we were awarded
Plus, we did NOT try to tell the customer what they wanted...
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...
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Nov-09-2019 08:13 AM
They beat all of the other tires shops when I needed new tires. Great service.
2017 Viking 17RD
2011 Ford F150 3.5L Ecoboost 420 lb/ft
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Nov-09-2019 07:09 AM
JALLEN4 wrote:
Here is an idea. Why don't you guys who obviously know everything about how these service shops should be run, start your own. You will obviously be rich nearly overnight and us dummies will never have to wait to make an appointment again while we enjoy your cheap prices!:R
Exactly. Unless you have owned a business you have no idea the multitude of overhead costs that must be covered by means of the income you collect before you can even think about a profit for yourself.
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Nov-09-2019 03:46 AM
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Nov-08-2019 11:09 AM
I can't imagine adding nails, screws, saw blades, drill bits when I was building homes years ago, nor a fee for 'forms' and stamps when I sent an invoice. That stuff was all in my cost projections.
It's like buying tires - we get a 'quote', then when the invoice arrives, a tire disposal fee, a shop fee, state tax, fed tax, town road fee all adds to the 'original out-the-door' charge. I always look at the OTD price once I arrive, and if so, THEN compare it to the size of the check I will write, not the phone quote. Sometimes, it makes it worth leaving and buy the tires elsewhere.
OTD quote should be dollars we write on the check amount lines.
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Chevy 2500HD 4x4 DC-SB
2008 Lance 845
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Nov-08-2019 09:20 AM
1,736.45 for parts
560 for labor (8 hours)
56 for shop materials
126.18 federal sales tax
151.42 provincial sales tax
2801.24 total.
new leaf springs, with extra leaf on both sides, new monro shocks, timbrens, various small parts such as u bolts and nuts. I'm exceedingly happy with this.
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.
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Nov-08-2019 08:52 AM
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Nov-08-2019 07:13 AM
Any cost in their products/service and to their customers...
Too many of their customers demand the cheapest...not understanding how they've driven this metric in a circular cycle
Lost is that if they had the better product/service...their bottom line would follow...
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...
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Nov-08-2019 06:45 AM
pianotuna wrote:
I believe the mechanic should get the lions share of the service fee. Unfortunately the opposite is a fact of life.
Problem is the lion's share of the cost to the owner is not the hourly rate that is paid.
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV
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Nov-08-2019 03:55 AM
patnchris wrote:
Midnightsadie....Don't know where you're from but around here you can make $15 stocking shelves in a department store. I was making $28/hr. back in 1995...plus 401k match, 75% of healthcare, paid holidays, and 3 weeks paid vacation...
See what RV dealers are charging per hour compared to what they pay their mechanics.
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Nov-07-2019 06:20 PM
Trevor the cocker spaniel
2007 Ford F150 4X4 Max tow package
Flagstaff 8526 RLWS Classic Ultralight.
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Nov-07-2019 05:36 PM
colliehauler wrote:Terryallan wrote:O'Reilly Auto Parts will let you use their code reader for free.
Don't be all tore up. they want $130.00 just to plug in, and tell me which seat sensor is bad. Not to fix it. Just tell which one is bad. so. it is still bad, and probably won't be fixed. she said the air bag won't work with it on. Truthfully. that ain't a bad thing for me. I sit pretty close to the steering wheel, and it isn't good for a airbag to go off when you sit close to it.
Why do I sit so close. I found I have better control while sitting close, as opposed to having my arm stretched out.
thanks. will it read the seat sensors as well? that little guy that sit in the seat with a belt on. lights up on the cluster. But not all the time.
Coachman Apex 288BH.
2013 F150 XLT Off Road
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Lazy Campers
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Nov-07-2019 04:11 PM
2001 Suburban 4x4. 6.0L, 4.10 3/4 ton **** 2005 Jayco Jay Flight 27BH **** 1986 Coleman Columbia Popup
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Nov-07-2019 01:48 PM
Terryallan wrote:O'Reilly Auto Parts will let you use their code reader for free.
Don't be all tore up. they want $130.00 just to plug in, and tell me which seat sensor is bad. Not to fix it. Just tell which one is bad. so. it is still bad, and probably won't be fixed. she said the air bag won't work with it on. Truthfully. that ain't a bad thing for me. I sit pretty close to the steering wheel, and it isn't good for a airbag to go off when you sit close to it.
Why do I sit so close. I found I have better control while sitting close, as opposed to having my arm stretched out.