Tip for the day...always carry some fresh water...
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Jun-10-2013 09:02 AM
We went camping at a KOA Campground this weekend. It was quite windy and for some reason the power went out throughout the campground early Saturday morning, probably from 6:30am till about 9:00am. Since the campground water comes from a well and needs to be pumped, there was no water available, anywhere. This meant all bathrooms were closed. Luckily, this didn't affect us because we had battery power and before we left the house I filled out fresh water tank about 1/2 way (I tend to be over-prepared), but all of those tent campers, TT, and motorhomes without any water stored (in FW tanks or jugs) were out of luck. Truthfully, I'm surprised they don't have a backup plan for this (i.e. generator).
This is your random tip for Monday morning. Have a great week!
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Jun-13-2013 07:19 PM
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Jun-13-2013 06:14 PM
Lantley wrote:69 Avion wrote:
Another silly question. How do you boondock if you can't come back with full gray and black tanks? I guess you have to leave your RV in the boonies. LOL
What good is a trailer that you can't use?
Avion I'm glad you asked the question so I don't have to!
I knew that other people had to be thinking the same thing. LOL
I feel for the folks that get sold a TT (RVs) that can't do what they should obviously be able to do.
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Jun-13-2013 04:44 PM
69 Avion wrote:
Another silly question. How do you boondock if you can't come back with full gray and black tanks? I guess you have to leave your RV in the boonies. LOL
What good is a trailer that you can't use?
Avion I'm glad you asked the question so I don't have to!
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Jun-13-2013 04:21 PM
The manual is correct in that the full gray and black tanks can affect your handling characteristics since they are usually toward the back. I like to see them close to the axles so the affect is minimal. If you come back with an empty water tank (in front of the axles) and full G&B tanks behind the axles, your tongue weight may be low. All you have to do is adjust some items to the front so that you have adequate tongue weight. Some trailers (Airstreams) have been known to damage the frames when the owners traveled with full tanks. What good is a trailer that you can't use?
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Jun-13-2013 12:56 PM
Lantley wrote:69 Avion wrote:
If I were looking for a TT and I noticed that the manufacturer stated that the trailer is not to be towed with full tanks, I wouldn't buy that trailer. How do you expect to ever boondock without water?
I agree. If Jayco has that disclaimer I won't be buying a Jayco.
I have traveled with all tanks full at times. Not being able to travel with tanks full would be a deal breaker for me.
OK, I'll take this opportunity to wipe the egg off my face and enjoy some fresh crow. Went into the owner's manual for our WhiteHawk and found this:
"Never travel with full black or grey water holding tanks. This not only wastes
your fuel but depending on the location of the tank(s), it can affect your
tow vehicle handling characteristics."
The warning was for gray and black tanks, not the FW tank. My apologies, guess the CRS is getting worse.........:S
But, I did read a post on the Jayco Owners' Forum in the last month where someone reported their FW tank fell out of the belly. I have also seen posts on this Forum with owners of various other brands of towable RV's reporting dropped FW tanks. So, it does make you wonder how substantial the support and bracing for these tanks really is.......:h
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Jun-13-2013 12:26 PM
I always thought that 1/4 tank of fresh water was adequate. However, one cold and snowy November evening (yes, we camp in the snow!), I knew the water hoses would freeze and we'd be out of luck in the morning. I got some really weird looks as I used my hose to fill my FW tank. I got more weird (envious) looks the next morning as I showered, flushed, etc. The sealed underbelly with the furnace on kept my water in the preferred, liquid format, rather than the hard, cold water in the hoses.
Also, we've been in CGs twice where someone drove over a spigot and they had to turn the water off to fix it. No, it wasn't me!
Happy camping,
Elizabeth
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Jun-13-2013 10:03 AM
This is a great tip. Thanks!
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Jun-13-2013 10:02 AM
My Dad said I was crazy puling the extra weight. Later that day the well pump for the campground went out and was out until the next afternoon.
Guess who came asking for water?
I always fill my fresh water tank when getting ready for the next adventure.
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Jun-12-2013 04:21 PM
69 Avion wrote:
If I were looking for a TT and I noticed that the manufacturer stated that the trailer is not to be towed with full tanks, I wouldn't buy that trailer. How do you expect to ever boondock without water?
I agree. If Jayco has that disclaimer I won't be buying a Jayco.
I have traveled with all tanks full at times. Not being able to travel with tanks full would be a deal breaker for me.
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Jun-12-2013 03:58 PM
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Jun-12-2013 12:57 PM
thomasmnile wrote:wilcamp wrote:
I can't imagine the angle-iron braces bolted and welded to the frame, under the water tank, not being capable of supporting the weight of 20 gallons +/- of water, and yeah, I know that's 160-200# of added weight. The peace of mind in having this resource available far out-weighs the risks that are condemned by the "weight police".
Would suggest anyone consult their manufacturer's owners manual before loading the FW tank and traveling. Jayco manual for our new WhiteHawk states not to travel with any tank "loaded". I've done it with our fifth wheel, and I've done it twice with the WhiteHawk (full fresh water tank) and the tank hasn't popped out of the belly.........yet.:W
This would make my trailer useless as where I camp never has water
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Jun-12-2013 12:18 PM
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Jun-12-2013 09:11 AM
jamnw wrote:
I always travel with FW full. We have had to use our bathroom several times while traveling with two small boys.
Same here, plus a girl. And it's usually easier to fill at home than at a campground that does not have full hookups.
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Jun-12-2013 08:47 AM
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