Toyota Tundra vs Ford F150 Hybrid Fuel Economy Tests

[FishOnOne]

Towing weight: 8,100 lbs

Tundra
Empty: 24 mpg
Towing: 12.4 mpg

F150 Hybrid
Empty: 36 mpg
Towing: 11.8 mpg

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[ppine]

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

People that buy diesels.

[valhalla360]

Grit dog wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

It wasn't that long ago that getting 15mpg was pretty typical for a full size pickup.

With average miles driven per year somewhere around 15,000.

Assuming $3.50/gallon:
- 15MPG = $3500/year
- 25MPG = $2100/year
- 35MPG = $1500/year

Jumping up to 35MPG is a savings of around $2000/yr. If you own it for 10yrs, that's $20,000 in fuel savings.

So the real question is why wouldn't you consider fuel economy when buying?

PS: and as others have suggested, higher MPG typically translates to longer range between fill ups, which is a nice bonus.

Why? Because your example is ridiculous.
A more realistic goal of 1-2mpg increase in an apples to apples comparison = about $200 or $400 per year respectively.
Spread that out over your theoretical 10 years and that $2000-4000 could easily be doubled or negated by difference in purchase price, repair costs, down time, resale, maintenance intervals, btter or worse financing deal ….I could go on.
Fuel mileage can/may be “a” consideration but if it is the biggest consideration then that person is just preceding their ignorance about the total cost of ownership.

I don't know about you but I can recall the trucks that got 15MPG and several of the new ones are getting 25MPG.

If you don't have heavy duty towing needs, I believe the dodge with the small diesel is rated at 33MPG highway.

So that's a much bigger range than 1-2MPG

[1320Fastback]

Why would Toyota even waste the money making a hybrid for 2 more mpg? What a waste of money.

[FishOnOne]

One of the main reason why Dodge Ram didn't make the short list when I purchased my truck is they didn't offer DEF and their fuel economy suffered because of it and a diesel was a must have.

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[n0arp]

RoyJ wrote:
I'd say for the vast majority of truck buyers, from light duty to heavy duty (Class 8), fuel consumption is the number 1 priority.

If that wasn't the case all OEMs would stick a supercharged big block crate engine and call it a day...

Fuel economy is a very distant priority for me, and always has been. I buy trucks for performance and capability, first and foremost. I wouldn't say I don't care, but it's barely on my radar... and the same goes for most people I know. The last few trucks I've bought don't even provide EPA estimates, and I'm sure that goes for a lot of people's trucks on here.

[IdaD]

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

Fuel economy was among the reasons I opted for a diesel engine.

[Grit_dog]

PS, Ford rates the F150 hybrid at 23-25mpg. You think if it actually got 36mpg or whatever those 2 ding dongs in Colorado are claiming that Ford wouldn’t claim that?

[Grit_dog]

specta wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

I bought my current truck because it was more comfortable to me than the other two.

No, you bought it for its fuel mileage, rvnet says so, just like the old highboy purchase as well….LOL!

[Grit_dog]

RoyJ wrote:
I'd say for the vast majority of truck buyers, from light duty to heavy duty (Class 8), fuel consumption is the number 1 priority.

If that wasn't the case all OEMs would stick a supercharged big block crate engine and call it a day...

That’s as silly as valhallas argument….

[Grit_dog]

valhalla360 wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

It wasn't that long ago that getting 15mpg was pretty typical for a full size pickup.

With average miles driven per year somewhere around 15,000.

Assuming $3.50/gallon:
- 15MPG = $3500/year
- 25MPG = $2100/year
- 35MPG = $1500/year

Jumping up to 35MPG is a savings of around $2000/yr. If you own it for 10yrs, that's $20,000 in fuel savings.

So the real question is why wouldn't you consider fuel economy when buying?

PS: and as others have suggested, higher MPG typically translates to longer range between fill ups, which is a nice bonus.

Why? Because your example is ridiculous.
A more realistic goal of 1-2mpg increase in an apples to apples comparison = about $200 or $400 per year respectively.
Spread that out over your theoretical 10 years and that $2000-4000 could easily be doubled or negated by difference in purchase price, repair costs, down time, resale, maintenance intervals, better or worse financing deal ….I could go on.
Fuel mileage can/may be “a” consideration but if it is the biggest consideration then that person is just preceding their ignorance about the total cost of ownership.

[RoyJ]

I'd say for the vast majority of truck buyers, from light duty to heavy duty (Class 8), fuel consumption is the number 1 priority.

If that wasn't the case all OEMs would stick a supercharged big block crate engine and call it a day...

[valhalla360]

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

It wasn't that long ago that getting 15mpg was pretty typical for a full size pickup.

With average miles driven per year somewhere around 15,000.

Assuming $3.50/gallon:
- 15MPG = $3500/year
- 25MPG = $2100/year
- 35MPG = $1500/year

Jumping up to 35MPG is a savings of around $2000/yr. If you own it for 10yrs, that's $20,000 in fuel savings.

So the real question is why wouldn't you consider fuel economy when buying?

PS: and as others have suggested, higher MPG typically translates to longer range between fill ups, which is a nice bonus.

[specta]

agesilaus wrote:
Who buys a p/u for it's fuel economy?

I bought my current truck because it was more comfortable to me than the other two.

[blt2ski]

Appears even the poster that said you don't buy trucks based on mpg, uses mpg as a factor in buying a truck. While it may not be #1 reason, it IS a factor!

Marty

[goducks10]

Most truck buyers aren't towing full time or even retired and doing extensive traveling. Their trucks are their daily drives. FWIW when I was working I drove anywhere from 2-60 miles one way. I work construction for 30 years before retiring. I drove a Ranger or a small car because I got decent mpg's. Today I don't put 1/2 the miles on my trucks that I did when working so mpg's only matter when towing.
No way could I've afforded to own a full size V8 truck back then.

IMO the higher the better so I don't have to plan as many stops. Plus it helps the pocket book.

Apples to apples why would anyone choose a gas hog over a gas miser?