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TV recommendations for a large family

joat_mon
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I need some help choosing a TV for a family of 7. I know there are lots of posts related to choosing a TV and I have been reading them for weeks. But everyone's circumstances are different. This is ours. We recently purchased a used 2007 Jayco Feather 232 but do not yet have a vehicle to pull it with. It was a deal we could not let slip by.

The TT weighs about 4100 lbs and the GVWR is 5500. After reading lots of other forum posts, I am glad it is as light as it is. I have been assuming that we will be in the 5200 to 5500 range when towing. I will be using WD hitch.

So the family of 7 consists of 2 adults, 3 teens, 1 pre-teen and the youngster. I figure together we are close to 925 lbs. But of course, the kids are still growing. Luckily, the kids don't need as much heavy stuff to keep them occupied when we travel.

We enjoy camping (7 in a tent was an experience) and are hoping that the TT will expand our range a little. We are based in Indiana (mostly flat) and are planning to camp there but hope to expand to the Ohio River Valley, Smokey Mtns, Northern MI, and the rolling hills of Missouri. We would also like to do a few (once a year) 2 week trips out West to the coast.

So now we need to find a vehicle to do that in. Preferably for $8K to 12K but can go a little higher for the right vehicle. I should also say that I have no experience towing so I have nothing to compare to and no real world experience. I have your collective wisdom to guide me.

So in doing research and some test drives I have come to this understanding, but please correct me if I am wrong, that we probably need to be checking the towing capacity and more importantly the max payload. We are undecided on van vs. SUV. For the longer hauls, the van has wonderful room and conversions have lots of comfort. But conversions have ambiguous weight ratings and many do not even have the towing package. SUVs seem to have better towing capacity numbers but are about the same or less room as the minivan we have (and have filled to capacity) now.

The Suburban/Yukon XL currently tops our list for SUVs. We tried a Sequoia (nice person room but very little room to spread out), Yukon XL (not bad but the interiors tend to wear out), an Expedition (kids didn't fit well in the back seat), and an Excursion (DW and kids did not like the harsher ride). I know some would recommend a Sub 2500 but they are difficult to find. I am lucky to find 1 within 100 miles that fits within our "soft limits" of 2001 or newer and less than 150K miles. I have seen several 1500 Suburbans (2002 to 2005, ~120K miles) in the price range. Can anyone comment on the towing of the Yukon XL Denali with the 6.0 vs the standard 5.3? I know it may not have the full benefits of a 2500, but more HP is more HP.

We have looked at 1 or 2 vans. These are also very hard to find, especially as I would prefer a low top conversion to a passenger van. It seems that SUVs really did a number on the passenger van market. Finding a 2500 conversion within the price range is a needle in a haystack at best.

So, what are your recommendations? Is a 2500 Suburban the way to go? Does that ride as harsh as an Excursion or closer to a 1500? Can a 1500 conversion van with a 5.3 and the towing package enough, or do I need to stick to ยพ or 1 ton? Are there better places to look than cars.com, autotrader.com, and craigslist? The comfort/performance/cost/scarcity balance for vehicles for large families is more effort than I was expecting. Funny thing is that I never considered us to be a large family until I was looking for this vehicle. We are really excited about getting out more. Thanks for any input. ๐Ÿ™‚
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hammer21661
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I'd go for the 2500 or 3500 van too.
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BB_TX
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Don't know about your area, but here we have been able to find Chevy "certified used" 3500 15 passenger vans pretty easily when we need one for our small business. They are typically 1 to 2 yr old vans with 13,000 to 20,000 miles on them.
Check the online web sites for your local Chevy dealers and see what they have on hand.

Olde_Volks_Plac
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greende wrote:
I would still try and find a 2500 or 3500 passenger van. It will give you the towing capacity and room for the family.


X2

1st off I have NO experience towing with a van as of yet, BUT I do have 6 kids all under 12 yrs of age and "ROOM IS KING"

I own a Chevy 3500 15 psg van with 4 sets of bench seats, 2 kids per row (each hold 3)and the last row (holds 4) removed for groceries. having said that still gives you room for 3 more family members or friends of the kids.
Or remove one more of the bench seats and put the kids on two rows "if they get along ;)" and have more room for extra gear, The possibilities are endless.


not to upset the FORD fans but the 15 psg Ford vans are UNSAFE PERIOD ford NEVER extended the frame they ONLY extended the body.

Chevy/GMC extended the FRAME and has a much safer van IMO.

Whatever you choose enjoy the experience

Francesca_Knowl
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dan-nickie wrote:
Those are nice, but the $90-$100K is just a little more than their $8K to $12K target.

No kidding- what was the POINT of that post????

Hey, O.P.!

My advice, like others, is to look hard at passenger vans... in my opinion, conversions will not only suck up weight capacity, the fixtures inside will make for much less comfortable travel. Some such conversions will also have resulted in reducing the number of belted passenger positions.
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carringb
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joat_mon wrote:

I love the idea of all bucket seats in those rideshare vans. Too bad they are in CA and I am in IN. I wonder if the local Enterprise has anything like those.


I think all Enterprise RideShare vans have that package now. The ones around here do. They also ship. I had mine drop-shipped to my driveway because it was half of what CA sales-tax would have cast had I picked it up, not to mention fuel and airfare.
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joat_mon
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Thanks for the initial responses.

I will be keeping the feelers out for 3/4 and 1 ton vans. We did try out a local E350 12 passenger. All the kids climbed in and promptly said "where are the cup holders?" I guess there are compromises with anything.

I love the idea of all bucket seats in those rideshare vans. Too bad they are in CA and I am in IN. I wonder if the local Enterprise has anything like those.

Yes a 6 door Excursion is beyond the price point. The family was not even interested in the normal Excursion. I am sure in some areas it would be fine but Indiana has not been keeping up its road conditions very well so I am sure I would hear about how comfortable (or not) it is. And with a few near future drivers, I might even have to become one of the passengers.

Glad to know I am in the ballpark. Just gotta keep searching.

gcloss
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Dollar for dollar your best bet as others have said, is a 2500 or 3500 passenger van.
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dan-nickie
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Those are nice, but the $90-$100K is just a little more than their $8K to $12K target.
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a64armt
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Here are some slightly more expensive options.


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Vincent
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ependydad
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You've got a pretty good handle on your numbers. The surprising part is going to be in how much you and the family are actually adding to the weight. Don't forget the weight of the youngster's booster/car seat.

My family's weight is about 640 pounds, but at the end of the day - we knock 1,200 pounds off of our payload capacity when we're ready for travel (though, we have a gooseneck/fifth hitch setup that likely weighs in the 250-300 pound range). But, still - there's a lot of "stuff" that gets added to the vehicle weight before you really realize it.

Good luck! I like the above recommendations of a 2500-3500 size van and it looks like Bryan is pretty well versed in this stuff.

It's not ideal, but is taking 2 vehicles an option?
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carringb
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For that load you could even get by with a 2008 or newer Ford E150 van, as long as it has 4.10 gears. The newer E150s have an 8600# GVWR which is the same as the 2500 Suburban or Express. A 1-ton van would give you lots of margin, but for what you describe an E150 would work just fine. This would open up the option of the Premium package which includes 2nd row captains and leather seats. Should be easier to find a conversion in this level too, but you have to still make sure the conversion didn't add too much weight (i.e. get it weighed before you buy!)

I bought my van from Enterprise Ride Share because it has all captains chairs, which is REALLY nice for long drives. Price was right too. They sell them around 100k but that's still pretty much new for these vans.

http://www.enterpriserideshare.com/vanpool/en/vehiclesales.html

An Express van would work too, as long as it is a 2500. The 1500 series is not equivalent to an E150. Also, an Express without the tow package requires adding many more parts to make it ready for towing, and you can't get tow mirrors for it.
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greende
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I would still try and find a 2500 or 3500 passenger van. It will give you the towing capacity and room for the family.
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