Want a new truck?

[PButler96]

Stopped in the local friendly Ford dealer this morning, they had a 22 F 250 loaded up XLT CC, 6 1/2' bed,7.3 gas up on the ramps near the highway. Could of drove it home for $8K over sticker lol. The sales manager told me Ford has stopped building Super Dutys, if you order today the earliest one can expect it is May 2023......maybe, and said expect msrp to go up across the board $4K by then. They had a shiny silver F-150 lightning waiting to be delivered, it went for $25K above sticker. They just furloughed 6 sales people.

People are out of their minds.

[RetiredRealtorR]

PButler96 wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:
Unnecessarily big trucks at unnecessarily high prices :C

Unnecessarily big trucks? I guess you can vouch for everyone as to what size truck they need? Simple supply and demand and the supply will increase while demand drops. Always happened before, and will again. With the direction the economy is going overall, they'll be begging for buyers within a year. The brakes are being applied to construction as I type including anything to do with building anything back better, and that is what drives sales of unnecessarily big trucks, not the RV crowd which is a miniscule percentage of overall sales.

No, I can't decide what size truck everyone needs, however, the 'full size' truck of 10-15 years ago wasn't near the behemoth that 'full size' trucks are today.

That being said, I don't see where truck buyer's needs have changed so much that an appreciably larger truck is necessary.

That, added to the fact that if you're going to buy a huge truck, learn to park it properly in a parking lot, and be sure anyone else driving it (such as a spouse) has the same ability to park it properly.

This concludes my dissertation on why I referred to the new truck offerings as 'unnecessarily big'. Your opinion may, and probably does, vary :C

[Grit_dog]

I predict a sooner than usual nuclear meltdown of this cluster fork thread!

[PButler96]

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:
Unnecessarily big trucks at unnecessarily high prices :C

Unnecessarily big trucks? I guess you can vouch for everyone as to what size truck they need? Simple supply and demand and the supply will increase while demand drops. Always happened before, and will again. With the direction the economy is going overall, they'll be begging for buyers within a year. The brakes are being applied to construction as I type including anything to do with building anything back better, and that is what drives sales of unnecessarily big trucks, not the RV crowd which is a miniscule percentage of overall sales.

[RetiredRealtorR]

Everybody seems to worry about "sticker" price or "MSRP". Stop and think --- who sets those prices? It's the manufacturer of the product. That's like asking an artist to give you an appraisal value on his own painting!

Dealers will sell over sticker as long as people will pay it. When buyers push back enough, I feel we'll just see the manufacturer raise prices accordingly, and rebate the dealers directly. Buyers will still pay the higher prices -- just in a different way. Get used to it. Unnecessarily big trucks at unnecessarily high prices :C

[PButler96]

Gooma wrote:
Dealers ahve found suckers that are willing to pay over sticker price, soemtimes by a large amount. Why will they lower prices? The days of discounrs of 5K to 10K are gone.

Maybe, but give it time and let these fuel prices, runaway inflation, and rising interest rates set in. It's definitely going to be interesting. The best deal you're going to get is already in your driveway.

[Travlingman]

PButler96 wrote:
Stopped in the local friendly Ford dealer this morning, they had a 22 F 250 loaded up XLT CC, 6 1/2' bed,7.3 gas up on the ramps near the highway. Could of drove it home for $8K over sticker lol. The sales manager told me Ford has stopped building Super Dutys, if you order today the earliest one can expect it is May 2023......maybe, and said expect msrp to go up across the board $4K by then. They had a shiny silver F-150 lightning waiting to be delivered, it went for $25K above sticker. They just furloughed 6 sales people.

People are out of their minds.

Actually, you haven't been able to order a superduty since March when they shut the order board down. The 2023 order board is showing it will open up Oct. 13 as of now with production starting 1-3-23. As for 4K, I wouldn't be surprised. I have noticed there has been a little inflation going on. :h

[Gooma]

Dealers ahve found suckers that are willing to pay over sticker price, soemtimes by a large amount. Why will they lower prices? The days of discounrs of 5K to 10K are gone.

[BB_TX]

I wanted to order a new loaded F150 last July. When I inquired to local dealer they said $10k over sticker. I said no thanks. Got an email a week later that said $5k over sticker. I said no thanks. Got an email a few days later that said sticker. Ended up ordering exactly what I wanted for about $2,500 under sticker. Got it 5 months later. Still considerably closer to sticker than I was used to paying. But also got far more for my old truck than it had been valued at 6 months before. So it pretty much evened out.

Last summer there were almost no F series of any flavor on the lots. Trucks on dealer order were being bought before they arrived. Most lots now have a few. I would have thought pricing would have softened a little.

[Lwiddis]

In today’s USA that wasn’t a bad price IMO. My local Chevy dealer is doing the same.

[time2roll]

Too bad those dealer agreements don't expire.

[gbopp]

Mfan wrote:
A friendly dealer, hard to believe.

They're all friendly, until they get your signature and money.

[wanderingaimles]

I was thinking about replacing one vehicle with one of the little Mavericks. My son in law was able to offer the best price. $8k over msrp.
With manufacturing starting to shut down due to fuel cost, prices will improve for the ones that can still buy.

[Mfan]

A friendly dealer, hard to believe.