Well, today it happened!! ~Updated~

[_DJ_1]

Driving down the freeway got the message for low fuel pressure. Few seconds later in to limp mode. Barely got off the freeway safely. AAA towed my truck to the Dealer. My HPFP grenaded at 9300 miles!! Took the injectors with it along with a myriad of other junk. And I do mean JUNK. 2016 Suer Duty with 9300 miles!!! Run nothing but Chevron diesel from a high volume station.

I'm done!! Back to gas!! Don't care if I only climb the mtns at 45 MPH!!! :M:M:M

[Cummins12V98]

kc8yhk wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
^^^^^ Incredible Fish! ^^^^^ There are idiots born every day that have knee jerk responses to everything.

Idiot? Really?

I think I said "IDIOTS".

Well that's not very nice.

Ok. I will bite. You have never thought of some people's actions as making them idiots? If not you just have unusually pure opinions of people.

[kc8yhk]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
^^^^^ Incredible Fish! ^^^^^ There are idiots born every day that have knee jerk responses to everything.

Idiot? Really?

I think I said "IDIOTS".

Well that's not very nice.

[Cummins12V98]

transamz9 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
^^^^^ Incredible Fish! ^^^^^ There are idiots born every day that have knee jerk responses to everything.

Idiot? Really?

I think I said "IDIOTS".

[transamz9]

Fish, I said I was thinking about it.i have put 2,000 miles on my 2005 Ram since 2013 so I really don't know what I'm going to do yet. I just want a new 1500. I like them (Ram and chevy) so if I do it I'm going to get what I want because I definitely don't " need" it. It will be either a limited or high country/Denali.

[transamz9]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
^^^^^ Incredible Fish! ^^^^^ There are idiots born every day that have knee jerk responses to everything.

Idiot? Really?

[Cummins12V98]

Hey "FISH" as an aside this is what I noticed traveling from ElPaso to DFW and back thru your state around Christmas time. Only Fords doing the same task were older 7.3 units and only one newer GM.

[FishOnOne]

larry barnhart wrote:
if you follow the story on the link above this couple seems to have a problem for whatever they buy.

chevman

True... You have to decide which is the least of evil for your needs.

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
^^^^^ Incredible Fish! ^^^^^ There are idiots born every day that have knee jerk responses to everything.

For some people or for some companies the diesel emissions just doesn't work for them with the downtime and trips to the shop.

There's an oil/gas company that service some of our gas wells that just completed switching all their ram cummins trucks to ram 6.4 hemi trucks. I just learned about this last month.

[larry_barnhart]

if you follow the story on the link above this couple seems to have a problem for whatever they buy.

chevman

[Cummins12V98]

^^^^^ Incredible Fish! ^^^^^ There are idiots born every day that have knee jerk responses to everything.

[FishOnOne]

transamz9 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Heck even my 98's WIF sensor went off when it had a 1/4 teaspoon of water in the filter housing. It was left over from the 30 gallons of water I pumped into my truck one morning. :M

So water get's into the fuel and then there is rust??? What the heck from???

I'm not talking about the old fuel systems. Even a 7.3PSD can engulf sand and water and not phase the injectors.

Think about the precision that the injectors have to be machined to hold 20k+ psi of fuel pressure on them without leaking, and then think about these precision surfaces with just a flake of rust that prevents them from seating properly. It doesn't take much and is the reason Ram went with a dual filter system like Ford.

A true water separator won't let water through. I never understood people saying the dealer told them rust was in the system. IDK, could be but not likely. My thoughts are that the filter stops the water and fuel to the pump. The pump that GM and Ford uses grenades when starved.

I still haven't really figured out why the V8s are having to run such high fuel pressures to make the same power as the 6. It takes so much fuel to make so much power. maybe someone could school me on this? I would think the volume of fuel it can put out at the required pressure would be the thing.

6.0 injectors are the same way. Run a 6.0 out of fuel and you just as well order some injectors.

It has nothing to do with a V8. Diesel fuel is difficult to atomize and atomized fuel burns cleaner with less soot and less soot means a more reliable emissions system. Hence the reason for the increase fuel injection pressure.

The 2.8 I4 Duramax in the Colorado runs 29k psi and its a inline engine.

More reliable emission system or more reliable injection system..........hhmmmm I'll take the injection system Jim! lol

Again the fuel system failures are very rare, but the emissions problems are very common.

I would say guy would disagree with you!

Link

In the Chevy thread your considering a Ecodiesel with a CP4. I can't tell if your coming or going.

[vjstangelo]

My experience with our Ford Excursion. 2005 V10, 150K miles, used primarily to tow out now sold TT. Took to Yellowstone from VA 4x and all over the east coast. Original 4R100 trans, nothing (and I mean nothing) has been done to motor save for recommended maintenance. The V10 hands down has been the 2nd best motor I have owned. FYI best is my daily commuter 1995 Taurus with the 3.0 Vulcan V6.

Can’t speak for the new gassers, but the V10 is a very good motor, powerful and reliable.

[wnjj]

spoon059 wrote:
Since we are so off topic, can I use this as a moment to ask why select people insist on quoting a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote instead of just replying and not taking up so much screen space?

Just curious if there is a reason...

Tablets and phones are painful to delete previous content on though I’m sure that’s not always the reason. Adding a blue font would take more effort, for example.

[spoon059]

Since we are so off topic, can I use this as a moment to ask why select people insist on quoting a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote instead of just replying and not taking up so much screen space?

Just curious if there is a reason...

[Huntindog]

goducks10 wrote:

hone eagle wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

mich800 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I'm brand loyal when the brand I buy doesn't fail. That's how a company makes me want to buy another one.

Treating me decently when a known problem rears its ugly head, rather than fixing said problem before I have to deal with it doesn't make me brand loyal, it makes me look for alternatives. I have no real favorites when it comes to trucks, I own a Ford and a Dodge.

Might want to take up walking as they all have known failure points.

When a company has had problems with a part that causes such devastating and expensive problems for 7 years and the customers are worried and not sure if the company will back their product is crazy. If I was scared that Ram was not going to back my truck I would be shopping right now for another brand. I definitely would not buy from them again and I definitely would not step down in capabilities to stay with them. People can make fun of my recalls but at least I don't have to worry if they are going to back their product.

Then I hope you don't have to deal with fuel contamination because Ram, GM and Ford techs all look for signs of contamination before any warranty work is approved plain and simple. If your fuel system gets a taste of water, rust will follow and a complete fuel system is in your cards.

As for the problems they're not widespread like you and others portray and most people don't live in fear including myself.

The Ford fanboys love to poke fun at the GM DEF
fill location. (under the hood) But I have NEVER read of an account where a GM owner mistakenly put DEF in the diesel tank... Perhaps GM knows a thing or two about the likely hood of people making a mistake.

I do not know about the Rams, but the Ford forums have had MANY reports from people that did just that.

Is that why GM moved it for the next model?

x2

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I have not personally seen a 2017/2018, but read in several publications that the tank was in the same place... And some said even more obnoxious that before... So the fill would pretty much have to be the same. I suppose it could be anoter door on the passenger side, but it could not share the same door as the diesel fill which is on the driver side.

The Fords DEF and Diesel share the same door.