What is unusual/ wrong with these Pickup Trucks?

[RobertRyan]

This one has a bit of Patina on it

[RobertRyan]

Bedlam wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

I don't see them much more capable than a cutaway E450 although they do have more engine variations. Europe is much more constrained by road width and regulations which makes these more popular. I'm sure more pickups would be sold in Australia if the costs were not so high for such a low volume market so far away. When you're on a sparsely populated island, costs are always higher and selection poorer.

This is when US Pickups were sold from Ford Dealerships in Australia. A 1998 by the looks of it F150, with a 351 cu in engine, I took this photo in Dec 2017

A Silverado with a Caravan

A Dually notice the Bull bars in the front

[RobertRyan]

Old Islander wrote:
Back in the late 60's and early 70's, I had a friend who drove a '65 Bedford van much like this one ...



He put a 100K on it, without any serious problems (unlike many English cars of the day...). It was pretty cool -- in the summer, he drove it with the doors open.

Used it for business and ahhhh... pleasure...! 😉

You can notice some similarities with this early 1960's Cheverolet Van

[RobertRyan]

Bedlam wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

I don't see them much more capable than a cutaway E450 although they do have more engine variations. Europe is much more constrained by road width and regulations which makes these more popular. I'm sure more pickups would be sold in Australia if the costs were not so high for such a low volume market so far away. When you're on a sparsely populated island, costs are always higher and selection poorer.

No costs really only part of the picture. A Vast range of US Pickups were sold in Australia till the early 2000's from dealerships, since then they had to be converted by importers, expensive business
Bit more effective then the E450. That IVECO can be optioned to have a 10,000lb payload and the 4x4 version is like A Unimog Off Road

[RobertRyan]

gbopp wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

gbopp wrote:
Bedford Trucks?

Go to the top of the Class. Yes they are the GM Bedford Pickup Truck, produced in England.

The body style reminds me of International Harvester pickup trucks. 🙂

Then Bedford was the Vauxhall GM owned Truck Division

[2012Coleman]

^ very cool - wish I could get one of those.

Well - we used my Ram 3500 CTD to go out for sushi Friday evening, and then stopped at Publix on the way home....

[Old_Islander]

Back in the late 60's and early 70's, I had a friend who drove a '65 Bedford van much like this one ...



He put a 100K on it, without any serious problems (unlike many English cars of the day...). It was pretty cool -- in the summer, he drove it with the doors open.

Used it for business and ahhhh... pleasure...! 😉

[JRscooby]

Old-Biscuit wrote:

50 yrs ago....and farther back
Heck growing up in WY pickup trucks were the Normal Family Vehicle

City Slickers...probably not but us conutry folks had them/used them and dressed up on Sunday

Yes in the rural areas a larger percentage of the people where in the class I mentioned before
"Now some families used the pickup as transportation when it was off duty, but even more pulled trailers with cars."
My parents lived out past the end of street cars, but worked in the city, and worked a F-5 flatbed with hoist part time. When little brother and I got to big to ride with him on mother's lap, and me standing in the seat between they bought a car.
At the time, truck owners would hang around lumber yards like day labor does now. And a lot of the "trucks" where big cars cut down and beds built on. On the farm, where I did most of my growing, grandparents had a car as early as I can remember, but that was Grandma's car. She never drove it, but the only time it came out of the garage was if she wanted to go to town, and the roads where dry.

[Old-Biscuit]

Bedlam wrote:

JRscooby wrote:
Back 50 years ago it was rare to see a pickup that did not do at least some commercial work. Now some families used the pickup as transportation when it was off duty, but even more pulled trailers with cars.
For a while '70s and '80s you could buy a pickup or car with same drivetrain, and because of the auto companies resistance to emission standards the pickup would get better mileage. But because trucks where hauling people instead of goods, had to make cabs bigger. Then enough "trucks" sold, need emission standards for heavier and heavier trucks. And now a lot of truck are sold just to enhance manhood...

I agree that most trucks of that era only had standard cabs with a single bench seat for three. IH was one of the early manufacturers of a crew cab in the mid 50's and these first models really were set up for work crews. Once Dodge introduced the extended cab in the early 70's, you started to see a family in the cab rather than in the truck bed, truck camper or trailer.

50 yrs ago....and farther back
Heck growing up in WY pickup trucks were the Normal Family Vehicle

City Slickers...probably not but us conutry folks had them/used them and dressed up on Sunday

[Bedlam]

JRscooby wrote:
Back 50 years ago it was rare to see a pickup that did not do at least some commercial work. Now some families used the pickup as transportation when it was off duty, but even more pulled trailers with cars.
For a while '70s and '80s you could buy a pickup or car with same drivetrain, and because of the auto companies resistance to emission standards the pickup would get better mileage. But because trucks where hauling people instead of goods, had to make cabs bigger. Then enough "trucks" sold, need emission standards for heavier and heavier trucks. And now a lot of truck are sold just to enhance manhood...

I agree that most trucks of that era only had standard cabs with a single bench seat for three. IH was one of the early manufacturers of a crew cab in the mid 50's and these first models really were set up for work crews. Once Dodge introduced the extended cab in the early 70's, you started to see a family in the cab rather than in the truck bed, truck camper or trailer.

[Bedlam]

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

I don't see them much more capable than a cutaway E450 although they do have more engine variations. Europe is much more constrained by road width and regulations which makes these more popular. I'm sure more pickups would be sold in Australia if the costs were not so high for such a low volume market so far away. When you're on a sparsely populated island, costs are always higher and selection poorer.

[gbopp]

RobertRyan wrote:

gbopp wrote:
Bedford Trucks?

Go to the top of the Class. Yes they are the GM Bedford Pickup Truck, produced in England.

The body style reminds me of International Harvester pickup trucks. 🙂

[JRscooby]

Back 50 years ago it was rare to see a pickup that did not do at least some commercial work. Now some families used the pickup as transportation when it was off duty, but even more pulled trailers with cars.
For a while '70s and '80s you could buy a pickup or car with same drivetrain, and because of the auto companies resistance to emission standards the pickup would get better mileage. But because trucks where hauling people instead of goods, had to make cabs bigger. Then enough "trucks" sold, need emission standards for heavier and heavier trucks. And now a lot of truck are sold just to enhance manhood...

[RobertRyan]

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

They the IVECO, VW, Renault etc Cab Chassis Vans, illustrated above are pure work vehicles. I have noticed Vans in Europe used for Personal use, but cab Chassis Vans as " cars" no. They are using a lot of SUV's though
A Renault Master Van made into a Breakdown Vehicle
IVECO Car Trailer

[valhalla360]

Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

[RobertRyan]

gbopp wrote:
Bedford Trucks?

Go to the top of the Class. Yes they are the GM Bedford Pickup Truck, produced in England.
Hard to imagine it , but Europeans did produce Pickups until the Mid 60's. They have never been popular, although VW is producing the Amarok a V6 Diesel, which will have 300hp.
So this which was derived from below replaces Pickup Trucks in Europe. So it's GVWR ranges from 7,700lb GVWR to 15,400lb GVWR


Does this in Australia and similar loads over there

Lighter Earlier version towing a Tractor