โAug-27-2013 07:49 PM
โAug-29-2013 11:46 AM
โAug-29-2013 11:41 AM
WoodGlue wrote:
Mike Up,
Not all aluminum framed trailers are gluing or vacuum bonding - Lance pinch rolls their sides w/ Azdel, a proven superior product, lighter and better and stronger than luaun or studded wood for that matter.
WoodGlue
โAug-29-2013 11:26 AM
Capehorny wrote:
I'm sorry if this was answered already, but I got to page 4 of not answering the question and the ensuing debate over construction.
1.) What does stick and tin construction have to do with riffled siding?
2.) Other than ease of cleaning, why is one better than the other. (Appearance preferences aside)
3.) I'm no aerodynamics engineer, but please don't tell me the difference for either is SIGNIFICANT enough to have any real impact to fuel consumption.
I have the riffled Jayco 19BH and hate it, just so I can be upfront out my position on the matter.
As stated earlier, RESPECTFULLY.
โAug-29-2013 11:24 AM
Mike Up wrote:Terryallan wrote:
Lets see, As a home owner. Ever get a load of Mulch? Wanna dump that thru the Sunroof on that SUV? Ever go pick up a water heater, or fridge. Try to stuff that in the back of that SUV. Or did you ever get a load of gravel? Where in your SUV did you put it? Or that load of wood / lumber. Or those sheets of plywood. How well does your lawnmower fit in your SUV?
I agree, I can't see how someone can be a home owner and not own a truck. I'm guessing he's the type that pays someone to do everything around his house so he can keep his unibody eco car.
โAug-29-2013 11:20 AM
โAug-29-2013 11:17 AM
Terryallan wrote:
Lets see, As a home owner. Ever get a load of Mulch? Wanna dump that thru the Sunroof on that SUV? Ever go pick up a water heater, or fridge. Try to stuff that in the back of that SUV. Or did you ever get a load of gravel? Where in your SUV did you put it? Or that load of wood / lumber. Or those sheets of plywood. How well does your lawnmower fit in your SUV?
โAug-29-2013 11:13 AM
Proteus wrote:Terryallan wrote:
I'd rather drive a truck too. And in truth. No one is going to tow ant TT of any size with a "normal" vehicle. Unless like me. You think a truck IS a normal vehicle. There are only 2 kinds of home owners. Those who have a truck, and those who need a truck. Trucks are needed for WAAAAY more than just towing a RV.
The truck prejudice here is exactly what is wrong with the US RV industry. I don't have a truck. I just safely towed a 6000lb+ trailer for 2k miles through two national parks. Pray tell, what would I want, or need a truck for? If I need to haul a bunch of****** the dump perhaps? I could see it for towing a large 5th wheel, or a full time trailer, but not a standard vacation travel trailer.
Bottom line is there are lots of people in the US, who, like their counterparts in Europe and Australia would like to tow high quality, well designed trailers with efficient and comfortable daily drivers. There just seems to be a lack of high end options out there....
โAug-29-2013 11:03 AM
Capehorny wrote:
I'm sorry if this was answered already, but I got to page 4 of not answering the question and the ensuing debate over construction.
1.) What does stick and tin construction have to do with riffled siding?
I have the riffled Jayco 19BH and hate it, just so I can be upfront out my position on the matter.
As stated earlier, RESPECTFULLY.
tatest wrote:
The grooves make the aluminum siding stiffer for a given thickness of material, and thinner siding is lighter.
Manufacturers did this also with other materials, including fiberglass before it became practice to laminate the skin to a core, so that the core material stiffened the wall.
โAug-29-2013 10:54 AM
โAug-29-2013 10:51 AM
โAug-29-2013 10:35 AM
TxTiger wrote:Proteus wrote:
1) Residential construction methods are just that, for homes, not for trailers. And even then, it's mostly for lower end or mid range homes.
I guess it's been too long since I've built a home and maybe I've missed something, but what are the non residential construction methods being used now for homes above lower/mid range?
โAug-29-2013 10:17 AM
tatest wrote:WoodGlue wrote:gmw photos wrote:
Woodglue,
Can you tell me how much clamping pressure is applied when utilizing a vacuum bonding procedure ?
Also, can you tell me what the correct clamping pressure and time is for the adhesive that might be in use for these different constructions ?
thanks.
Hi there,
I have those numbers somewhere around here. If I don't post them today, please remind me! I do know that it's oftentimes measured in percentages (%) It also has to do with the type of adhesive being utilized. For instance, Lamilux has their own set numbers.
120 - 130 pounds per square inch is one number I just found. And that's vacuum pressure, not clamping.
WoodGlue
How do you get 8X atmospheric pressure by pulling a vacuum?
โAug-29-2013 09:41 AM
Proteus wrote:
1) Residential construction methods are just that, for homes, not for trailers. And even then, it's mostly for lower end or mid range homes.
โAug-29-2013 09:35 AM
tatest wrote:
....snip
Most people will argue that their choice of construction technique is the best, even if they don't understand how their RV was made and believe it to be something different that what it really is, because the salesman convinced them.
โAug-29-2013 09:30 AM
WoodGlue wrote:gmw photos wrote:
Woodglue,
Can you tell me how much clamping pressure is applied when utilizing a vacuum bonding procedure ?
Also, can you tell me what the correct clamping pressure and time is for the adhesive that might be in use for these different constructions ?
thanks.
Hi there,
I have those numbers somewhere around here. If I don't post them today, please remind me! I do know that it's oftentimes measured in percentages (%) It also has to do with the type of adhesive being utilized. For instance, Lamilux has their own set numbers.
120 - 130 pounds per square inch is one number I just found. And that's vacuum pressure, not clamping.
WoodGlue