Boondocking closures in Arizona
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Dec-27-2015 07:59 AM
At the same time, the US government has sold off 4 square miles of the Tonto National Forest to foreign copper mining companies who stand to make tens of billions of dollars (and create a few jobs...not many).
If this bothers you, I've outlined the situation in this blog post along with references so you know I'm not making this up plus an email address for the supervisor of the forest for expressing your thoughts (please be polite).
Copper Mines, NOT CAMPING, in Tonto National Forest
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Jan-05-2016 12:27 PM
monkey44 wrote:
The troubles begin with these kinds of controls when the company decides it's less expensive to pay the fines than protect the environment. OR, the company goes belly-up, intentionally, after reaping the profits. Then the bonds never cover the repairs, and the bonding company tries every legal trick under the sun to delay or defer or defeat efforts to replenish what is now been damaged nearly beyond fixing...
Does Picher, OK come to mind? Does to me.
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Dec-31-2015 06:46 AM
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Dec-31-2015 05:04 AM
It is all very clearly explained by the sources I reference.
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Dec-30-2015 05:16 PM
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Dec-28-2015 07:43 AM
Captain_Happy wrote:You need to get a better news service inside your bunker. What you described never happened. Closing the national parks and selling the land to big money isn't going to happen. I know, I tried to buy the Grand Canyon and was flatly refused.
Isn't this what Ted Cruz proposed ( a bill in congress) a couple of years ago to close al the National parks and sell them off to the Big Money Boys. well its started. This the reason I'd never vote for this guy. What I'm afraid is, he'll get elected, and here we go.
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Dec-28-2015 06:07 AM
I visited each place I mention in my blog post in person during the last few weeks. There are gates across the closed areas.
Many other RVers have been in touch with the Forest Service since October when they first started arriving in the area to find out what is going on.
I have spoken with the Forest Service and they have no intentions of ever reopening any of the camping areas I discuss and they are raising the rates on the day use areas to $12 with no senior discount as of Jan 2016.
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Dec-28-2015 05:41 AM
This is what is on the USA Gov Web Site. Phon D Sutton is Still open. The other sites were close due to no camp host and miss-use of people including campers.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/tonto/recarea/?recid=35397
Here is the restrictions in place
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto/alerts-notices/?cid=stelprdb5246945
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Dec-27-2015 04:23 PM
4aSong wrote:
I sent a letter to Arizona Senator John McCain back on July 27,2015 and still waiting a response. Letter was sent to His office in Washington at
The Honorable John McCain
United States Senate
218 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Good luck getting a straight answer from him (I speak from experience).
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Dec-27-2015 03:31 PM
PatrickA51 wrote:Mello Mike wrote:
Folks, awareness on this very important topic is good, but lets keep the political rants out of this thread or I'll have to close it.
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The Land belongs to the citizens of the USA, If you want to do something about it contact your representative not Rant here.
That's right. There is only ONE way to fix this kind of disgraceful behavior. And it's not a rant on RV.net -- altho we're glad the word gets out here, but there is another step in this process.
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