Pa Open for Camping

[beermanjoe]

Pa private campgrounds are opening May 1st.

[Lantley]

Mosseater Wrote:
Can anybody explain how me camping 50 feet away from another family outdoors is anywhere near an considered risk?

At this point I agree to some extent some things can be opened up.
But understand the virus is spread through human interaction. It can also be spread by people who don't realize they are spreading it..
When you go camping you will have at least 1 interaction along the way.
Be it checking in,getting gas,getting food,getting firewood somewhere in the process you will have an encounter with someone else. Apply that thinking to everyone in the campground. Every camper had at least one encounter during related to that trip. Add in the idea that you may have brought the virus from your community Dillsburg,PA and spread it to my community Ellicott City Md via the firewood guy or some other mutually encountered person!
Now we can think that is all far fetched except the virus spread from Wuhan, China to the entire world one interaction at a time....None of those interactions were deliberately or intentionally done to spread the virus but they did.
Now at this point I can agree to open things up somewhat, The spread is not as bad as we feared and the hospitals except for NYC are generally not overwhelmed. However there is a risk to associated with allowing camping that is real and not imagined.

[GordonThree]

mosseater wrote:

Can anybody explain how me camping 50 feet away from another family outdoors is anywhere near an considered risk? I have more concern whether I'll have enough fire wood than I do about contracting covid 19. The media has been holding up the anomalies as legitimate concern for the masses. And the just aren't. This has to stop before we crash the whole economy over a now-diminishing threat. It's insane.

It's about punishing the haves for the sake of the have-nots. Opening a public park only to those who are self reliant is discrimination to those who can only afford to tent camp and need the public bathroom and shower facilities.

That said, there's surely national forest available for you to camp in? Being self reliant all you need is an a clearing in the trees, right?

[mosseater]

I can source it if people need it, but this morning the news is officially that we don't officially know how many people have had it because many times the symptoms are non existent or very mild. The antibody testing underway in it's infancy stage already show that total cases indicated by current antibody testing show cases of contraction of upwards of ten fold over what we have "verified". The resulting death numbers, which they have already admitted were trumped up, make the likelyhood of contraction and death about .75% as of now, nation wide. Real numbers to be even lower in the final analysis, taking them somewhere near death numbers of shark attack and choking on food. These are not my thoughts conjectured to support opening up camping or any other business, but are now swiftly showing just how much we may have been hoodwinked.

Can anybody explain how me camping 50 feet away from another family outdoors is anywhere near an considered risk? I have more concern whether I'll have enough fire wood than I do about contracting covid 19. The media has been holding up the anomalies as legitimate concern for the masses. And the just aren't. This has to stop before we crash the whole economy over a now-diminishing threat. It's insane.

[zb39]

The vast majority of cases in PA are all close to Philly. The rest of the state, and it's a huge state, are doing well.

[pasusan]

wildtoad wrote:
No miracle required, just don’t hug the guy in the next campsite...

Pennsylvania has a total estimated population of around 12,820,878.

To date, 42,050 people have been diagnosed with Covid-19. This says that .32% of the TOTAL population has been diagnosed with Covid-19, and/or have received treatment.

Of the people who have been diagnosed only 3.7% (1,597 deaths), died from it. The vast majority of these have been elderly, and had preexisting conditions. Not inferring that these deaths should be taken lightly. These are not huge numbers.

When compared to the total population, the number that have died represents a .012% of the population,

I think the numbers point out most residents and visitors to PA can go camping with a good sense that they will make it back home again NOT infected with Covid-19. Maybe a rash from poison ivey or some bug bites. So go camping and have fun.

This makes total sense for folks with completely self-contained RVs. We have been camping in our class B, so we use the dreaded restrooms. That's why we are hoping for a miracle. 😉

[pbeverly]

Cobra21 wrote:
If people are responsible and smart, it should work.

And here lies the problem. SC gets an F for Social Distancing and the few times I have been out it is very obvious why.

PA gets a C+.

[ford_truck_guy]

wildtoad wrote:
No miracle required, just don’t hug the guy in the next campsite...

Pennsylvania has a total estimated population of around 12,820,878.

To date, 42,050 people have been diagnosed with Covid-19. This says that .32% of the TOTAL population has been diagnosed with Covid-19, and/or have received treatment.

Of the people who have been diagnosed only 3.7% (1,597 deaths), died from it. The vast majority of these have been elderly, and had preexisting conditions. Not inferring that these deaths should be taken lightly. These are not huge numbers.

When compared to the total population, the number that have died represents a .012% of the population,

I think the numbers point out most residents and visitors to PA can go camping with a good sense that they will make it back home again NOT infected with Covid-19. Maybe a rash from poison ivey or some bug bites. So go camping and have fun.

A lot of our deaths here in PA happened to folks in nursing homes... There was a report on that yesterday but I was not paying attention.

[wildtoad]

No miracle required, just don’t hug the guy in the next campsite...

Pennsylvania has a total estimated population of around 12,820,878.

To date, 42,050 people have been diagnosed with Covid-19. This says that .32% of the TOTAL population has been diagnosed with Covid-19, and/or have received treatment.

Of the people who have been diagnosed only 3.7% (1,597 deaths), died from it. The vast majority of these have been elderly, and had preexisting conditions. Not inferring that these deaths should be taken lightly. These are not huge numbers.

When compared to the total population, the number that have died represents a .012% of the population,

I think the numbers point out most residents and visitors to PA can go camping with a good sense that they will make it back home again NOT infected with Covid-19. Maybe a rash from poison ivey or some bug bites. So go camping and have fun.

[pasusan]

Lwiddis wrote:
Hopefully PA campers can stay safe, wear masks and maintain distance. Some Southern California beaches reopened this last weekend. It was a disaster.

PA numbers are 40,049 infected with 1,537 deaths.

At least with camping we're not packed so close as beach goers seem to be.

I'm a bit cranky that the state parks are opening so soon - I am thinking that is so we will have to do our own cancelling and not get the complete refund. (Conspiracy theory?) We will probably be cancelling our reservations at World's End and Rickettt's Glen coming up at the end of May.

But - we'll wait to cancel - never know - there might be a miracle just over the horizon. 🙂

[wildtoad]

jdc1 wrote:
The daily death rate has dropped....but the daily positive cases are still VERY HIGH.

Not everywhere. And the risks of getting it if you follow the hygiene and distancing is low.

[wildtoad]

Lwiddis wrote:
Doesn’t appear to me that the South Carolina state parks are on the same page as the South Carolina health department.

https://scdhec.gov/infectious-diseases/viruses/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/sc-testing-data-projections-covid-19

And that’s to be expected somewhat. The parks are opening yet still promote social distancing, proper hygiene, no gatherings, and so on. The risk of being infected in a state park is really low, and many are willing to go. I’m far more likely to catch it in a grocery store than on my campsite, or walking through the woods. One can always find a way not to do something. Time to start getting back to normalcy.

[jdc1]

The daily death rate has dropped....but the daily positive cases are still VERY HIGH.

[Lwiddis]

Doesn’t appear to me that the South Carolina state parks are on the same page as the South Carolina health department.

https://scdhec.gov/infectious-diseases/viruses/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/sc-testing-data-projections-covid-19

[GordonThree]

Thanks for the info... Looking for somewhere to go for 7-10 days around MDay since I'm highly doubting my own state will reopen campgrounds before mid-June.

[wildtoad]

FYI. SC State Parks are open 5/1 for those with existing reservations. 5/11 for new reservations.