Any one towing 11000 with gas f250

[Nuclearhowie]

I'm in the process of buying my first fifth wheel that dry is 10550 pounds my truck is rated for 12300 I'm having extra leaf springs added and the truck officially recertified. I have no idea what to expect with my truck getting close to max. Does anyone have insight on that much weight with a gas f250 with 3.7 rearend.

[MFL]

bpounds wrote:
What year and what engine is that truck. No one can answer the question without knowing these factors. Could be anything from a 2 valve 5.4 to a V10 to a 6.2.

2016 250 4x4 6.2

[bpounds]

What year and what engine is that truck. No one can answer the question without knowing these factors. Could be anything from a 2 valve 5.4 to a V10 to a 6.2.

[skidooman93]

This year I went from a 26 ft bumper pull to a 37ft 5th wheel that is 11,100 dry. I pull it with a 15 Ram 2500 with a 6.4 (gas) and 4.10 rear gears. While not the same truck rating is almost identical to a 15 Ford F-250. Im not sure my exact weight. We pack light so Im thinking we are around 12,100. The truck pulls the trailer fine. 5th gear most of the time cruising, shifts to 4th on substantial hills. On really steep hills it does need 3rd but can accelerate then. I cruise at 65 and it has no trouble maintaining that speed even into a 20mph wind. So just be prepared for the truck to shift to make power but it should pull your trailer with out a problem. I am in minnesota so I dont have to deal with thin air. I am very happy with how my gas engine pulls my trailer. But it does like fuel. Mileage is 9 with no wind, 6 when into the heavy head wind. Unless I was in really hill country or higher elevations often I dont need a diesel.

Youll love the anderson hitch. I love mine, super easy hooking up, plenty of clearance and rock solid. And when I get home, in 2 minutes I have my bed back to normal. This is the first 5th wheel I have owned. But after towing with the anderson for a few trips I dont know why anyone would want a conventional 5th wheel hitch anymore.

[goducks10]

RinconVTR wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
One thing to keep in mind, Gas engines develop their rated HP at much higher RPM compared to Diesel. In a properly running engine, there is no issue with this but it does sound like the engine is screaming, so people think it's a problem.

Precisely.

It's going to feel like work (more mentally than physically) driving that rig so close to those high max weights. Weights in excess of 9-10,000lbs...I become a large diesel engine fan. But make no mistake, the gasser will do if you let'r rev.

It feels like work when my CTD get near 2000 rpms. 🙂

[RinconVTR]

valhalla360 wrote:
One thing to keep in mind, Gas engines develop their rated HP at much higher RPM compared to Diesel. In a properly running engine, there is no issue with this but it does sound like the engine is screaming, so people think it's a problem.

Precisely.

It's going to feel like work (more mentally than physically) driving that rig so close to those high max weights. Weights in excess of 9-10,000lbs...I become a large diesel engine fan. But make no mistake, the gasser will do if you let'r rev.

[valhalla360]

One thing to keep in mind, Gas engines develop their rated HP at much higher RPM compared to Diesel. In a properly running engine, there is no issue with this but it does sound like the engine is screaming, so people think it's a problem.

[GPG52_]

Your set up sounds similar to what we have except for rear ratio.
TV: 2014 Ford F250 XLT 4x4, 6.2ltr, 6spd, 4.30r/r,8"box factory towing package, snow plow prep package (wanted the beef'ed up suspension; I regret not having added the camper package which would have beef'ed up the rear a little)
NOTE: We leaned that with the new electronics system we simply let the TV guide itself through the 6sp transmission sequence for both ascending and descending grades
COACH: 2014 Cougar 327RES, 10,500lbs, 1,800 pin weight.
The TV squats about 1/2" nothing to worry about.
HITCH: Husky 16W K
We travel the Eastern Seaboard mountain ranges with no restriction.
Keep to the speed limits (60mph), were not breaking any speed records a little slower than diesel up the grades, but again getting there is half the fun.
In our case we weight the cost/benefit and elected a gaser, diesel would have been nice if you had unlimited funds.
Enjoy
GPG

[melhow]

MFL wrote:

Nuclearhowie wrote:
I'm in the process of buying my first fifth wheel that dry is 10550 pounds my truck is rated for 12300 I'm having extra leaf springs added and the truck officially recertified. I have no idea what to expect with my truck getting close to max. Does anyone have insight on that much weight with a gas f250 with 3.7 rearend.

Welcome to the forum!! It would seem our trucks are similar, as my 13 gas 250 is rated to tow 12,300 also. I ordered my truck with HD service suspension, so 350 with 250 badge. I still have 10K GVWR, no matter the suspension. Even so, door sticker is 3,232, means mine weighed 6,768, when it left the factory. My truck squats very little with 2K+ on the rear axle.

While 4.30s would work better, towing 12K in the mountains, my 3.73s would work. If your truck is 2011 or newer, with 6-speed, ratings same as mine, it will do the job.

Towing 12K in Florida, will be a non-issue.

Jerry

OP's spouse here - thanks Jerry. We talked to the parts guy at our dealer and feel good about the new rig. Might add some airbags for sag, but aside from that, with the Anderson hitch and reasonable packing, I think we will be all good for the road. Appreciate your post!

[KD4UPL]

Trackrig wrote:
How are you going to "officially" re-certify the truck?

Ford issued the original certification which considers the engine, transmission, brakes and suspension, are they going to redo it for your truck by re-analyzing all of the components as a whole? I didn't know a vehicle could have its weight capacities re-certified?

Live and learn?

And to answer your question, I tow a TT that's about 8,500# behind an F250 2005 diesel in a lot of mountains and that's about all I want to do. I did tow an 11,000# track rig on a 1,500# equipment trailer for 50 miles last week. It's more than I'd want to tow on a regular basis. The cooling fan kicked on several times both in traffic and on a couple of short hills. The plan is to move up to an F450 in two years.

Bill

There are many places that can re-certifiy a vehicle. They are typically up-fitters that install utility bodies, flatbeds, dump beds, bucket lifts, etc. Most any truck that has had the bed replaced with an aftermarket one has a sticker on it listing who did the up-fit, if they re-certified the GVWR, and what the new GVWR is. Trucks that leave the factory with no bed as a cab & chassis are considered incomplete vehicles and receive a sticker from whoever installs the bed.
I once wanted to buy a new '05 Dodge dually and have a tool box body installed. Dodge said they had problems with the frames cracking on the duallys with heavy tool bodies and that they would void the warranty if I had one installed. I talked to the local certified truck bed company. They said that Dodge told them the same thing, they would loose their Dodge certification if they put an aftermarket bed on one of the new duallys. So, I bought a Chevy.
The point is, manufacturers do work with up-fitters who modify their trucks.

[jjj]

It depends on the year. My brother has a 2000 v-10 F-250 supercab srw. It has a 14000 tow rating w/4:30 rear end. I have a 2002 v-10 F-350 Dually with 4:30 rear end and is only rated at 13500. I am towing extremely close to my rating. I do ok on flat land but it is no race horse up the hills. I only do weekends and a few week trips, but for me it does just fine. I would not cross the country with it.

[MFL]

Nuclearhowie wrote:
I'm in the process of buying my first fifth wheel that dry is 10550 pounds my truck is rated for 12300 I'm having extra leaf springs added and the truck officially recertified. I have no idea what to expect with my truck getting close to max. Does anyone have insight on that much weight with a gas f250 with 3.7 rearend.

Welcome to the forum!! It would seem our trucks are similar, as my 13 gas 250 is rated to tow 12,300 also. I ordered my truck with HD service suspension, so 350 with 250 badge. I still have 10K GVWR, no matter the suspension. Even so, door sticker is 3,232, means mine weighed 6,768, when it left the factory. My truck squats very little with 2K+ on the rear axle.

While 4.30s would work better, towing 12K in the mountains, my 3.73s would work. If your truck is 2011 or newer, with 6-speed, ratings same as mine, it will do the job.

Towing 12K in Florida, will be a non-issue.

Jerry

[Fisher_Bill]

My dry weight on the 5er is 8035# and when loaded down even my duramax works at those really steep winding roads we sometimes run, I'd hate to see the gasoline bill for those trips but as always YRMV.

[TxGearhead]

I bet that pin weight will be 3,000+. I was pulling the Montana usually 12,200 loaded with a 2014 F350 diesel SRW. I was over the payload capacity of 3200. By the time you add the hitch, fill the front closet, and some junk in the back of the truck you get heavy quick.
Exactly the same equipped Ram has 4018 payload. All the diesel Fords I looked at had the lowest payload of the 3. So I assume the gas is about the same spread.

[rhagfo]

Well at 11,500# dry, you will be at or near 12,000# towing. The killer for your rig is the 3.7 rear gears. If you want to tow more weight need to drop the rear gear to 4.10 or 4.56!