Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels

[MeetTheMark]

A true all year, all seasons full time fifth wheel main factor is it has to withstand temps below 0 and above 100 with no issue. Extreme inter rigid construction. Continuous full time living in extreme temps, stand alone house on wheels.
These are the very few, most expensive, heaviest, luxurious "try to play with me" monsters that no other trailer nor fifth comes near.
By actual specs: 40k+ furnaces, 30+ r values and extensive under carriage blown heating (not only just mere heating pads). The largest fifth wheels sheer size and space accommodate what is needed to hold high level specs needed. They are not trailers nor toy haulers. You get what you pay for.

You think not, challenge?
Currently, alot of makers make claims here and there but for the most part, in the end they will not stand up by itself to extensive periods of time through all extreme seasons.
Go to RV Trader, RVT, etc. and put in the highest priced fivers (non toy hauler). Download from each maker's site the pdf spec sheet. You will be shocked. Why are they so pricey, some more expensive than some homes? Construction, durable long lasting - come rain or shine. Old man Canadian winter or Arizona heatwave summer. And, oh yes, let's not play here: You will be paying for the propane to run the beast, but... no skirting needed.
The chosen few are The Stand Alones.

These are the fifth wheels -
Forest River - Cardinal, RiverStone.
Thor - Landmark. DRV - Mobile Suites, Elite Suites.
Crossroads - Redwood.

Independent lines -
Forks RV - Continental Coach (custom made).
New Horizons (custom made (post added and confirmed - you are correct Colliehauler).

Recent Past Orphaned Lines -
Evergreen - Lifestyle Luxury, Bay Hill.
Carriage - Carri Lite, Royals.
DRV - Tradition, Estates.
Newmar - Kountry Aire.
Teton - Royal, Experience.

Note: Popular notions -
Good brands like Cedar Creek, Montana lines are not true 4 seasons fivers. New recent high specs are specialized order, not standard.
Nuwa and orphaned Excel lines lack in overall extreme r values.
Carriage Cameo line falls into the upper mid fiver level, like Montana or Cedar Creek.
Always trusted and respected Arctic Fox's quality line is considered upper mid. Models listed above as best now far exceed AF's specs.



Regards,
Mark

[Racine96]

A newbe lecturing??????

[Old-Biscuit]

OP has an 'Elite Suite' so he should just buy an 'Elite Suite' for his sister/BIL

And be done with it.

Not sure if post was for our collective benefit or OPs opportunity to buff up and convince himself.

[8ntw8tn]

I've been reading this thread hoping the OP was going somewhere with it but I give up. I'm taking my popcorn and going to another show!!

[lynndiwagon]

I've owned a Nuwa and the Heartland Big Country is waaay better insulated.

[broark01]

4 seasons capability and quality is all subjective, how cold can you stand to be for how long, how hot can you stand to be for how long, how much shaking can you stand when someone is walking through, how much wind whistling through the gaps bothers you, how many parts can you stand falling off while traveling, how much can you afford in propane, etc. Is the price between the worst and best really worth the difference? Everyone's opinion and definition are different regarding 4 seasons and quality. See latest Trailer Life mag article "Braving the Yukon" in an R-POD. Just about anything can be made 4 seasonable.

[shepstone]

I think someone has been watching too much Yoda from Star Wars

[kakampers]

Oh good...I thought I was loosing it...;)

[blofgren]

kakampers wrote:
Is it me, or is anyone else having trouble following the OP???

No, you are definitely not alone on this one.

[gitane59]

I give up. I can't follow him either?

[MNRon]

Kakampers, it's not you

[kakampers]

Is it me, or is anyone else having trouble following the OP???

[MeetTheMark]

Gitane59,

All aluminum super structure. Bay Hill has risen. Lifestyle Luxury and Bay Hill are actually below Cardinal. Stand alone is meaning here to stand on their own operating under all conditions.
I own a Elite Suites Memphis and now I want to buy my sister and brother in law a high end fiver for the 10 year union.
It gets real old hearing the bells and whistles about a starter pup Montana or a tart Nuwa. You are not going to tell me Scottsdale is better than Palm Springs. Don't think so.

Not 2003, but today. Big play is in my OP.
Do you really think mega FR is going to present their best high end fiver to compare with a mid or upper mid fiver?
Full timing weather wise in the lower regions is quite, quite different than full timing in the northern regions.
Most any say Hitchhiker or Rushmore with the said "polar pack" will get you there all year staying in the fairly moderate lower regions weather zones.

I need contention, brilliance. Wyotraveler and Collierhauler has taken me there. Any new, true top end fiver start ups out there? Perhaps a unknown, micro Indiana company? Stanford, not USC. You then will enhance my membership here at RV Net.

[gitane59]

Interesting first two introductory post ever from this RV.net newbie. I'm trying to understand his intentions and motives are for his post's. His fact's while somewhat accurate have several questionable facts.

DRV is no longer a "Stand Alone", they are owned by Thor.
He is excluding Spacecraft RV from the super high-end list with Fork's RV and New Horizon's RV.
i certainly don't see Bay Hill, Cardinal as a high-end four season unit at all

Some comments are not understandable.
Such as, what is "Extreme inter rigid construction".
and "I will die in a Cougar, Cameo and Nuwa. But, you can have at em. Lord!"

MeetTheMark: May I suggest you re-introduce yourself and let us known why you joined RV.net and how we can help your enjoy the RV lifestyle.

[jsr21]

Read the manuals?? **** that's what I've been doing wrong lol

[MeetTheMark]

Cardinal. New ones go for over a 100k for a reason. Read your manuals. I will die in a Cougar, Cameo and Nuwa. But, you can have at em. Lord!