Do I Have Enough Truck For This Fiver?

[fairhaven]

I'm looking at a Crossroads Rushmore Lincoln. It is 40'11" in total length. Dry weight is 12924. The hitch weight is 2548. My truck is a 2010 F350 6.4 diesel, long box crew cab FX4. The door sticker shows GVWR is 11,500 and the rear GAWR is 6900.

[kglenn]

I have a 2012 F350 non dually short box crew cab with 20 inch tires and tow a 2013 Rushmore Washington model. My hitch weight is around 3500 lbs loaded to camp. My truck tow s this package easily. Feels very safe at any freeway speeds up to 70 mph. Still felt ok at 80 mph but not style. My package is still legal on all axles

[noteven]

The rear axle GAWR rating of 6200lbs axle on our SRW truck is the capacity of the 2 Rge E tires. Before I bought 19.5 tires I researched part numbers. Our SRW 3500 shares the same axle, bearings, & springs as a 3500 SLT dually of the same year, body, and equipment. The SLT dually has a rear rating of 9350lbs. The new 19.5 tires have a single rating of 4540lbs each x 2 = 9080lbs so by changing out the limiting component (Rge E tires) I have a set of components which offer capacity to spare.

I don't know if Ford trucks like fairhaven's F350 share components between dually and single wheel versions.

My rule of thumb is be careful with correct loading of components carrying the weight like tires, suspension, hitches, axles.

Don't worry near so much about "tow rating" if you are prepared to operate your vehicle with some common sense, and your trailer has a proper set of brakes and you are comfortable and have some experience with heavier vehicles.

[Atom_Ant]

Ours was listed with a 2450lb pin weight, which quickly turned into 3500 lbs after installing gen and WD and loading. (No water or food). 6,840 lb on 7,000 lb rear axle. Byby SRW.

[hone_eagle]

mobilcastle wrote:

06Fargo wrote:
We haul a truck camper and also toyhauler with the same dimensions and weights as you have posted with an 06 Dodge 3500 similar specs to your F350. It was time for tires so we have uprated tires and wheels to 19.5's (from Rickson). I don't like operating tires at max load ratings I like 15 to 20% spare capacity, especially in hot weather. We use a Firestone Ride-rite air spring kit with individual pressure control side to side - works a treat for leveling the camper on parking sites and leveling the ride height of the truck.
I haven't towed with the 19.5's yet, just got them on. I did haul a pallet of feed home 2300lbs 4 ft square x 4 ft high and the truck likes it, as usual.

As far as "Maximum allowed fifth wheel ratings" - trailer towing capacities take a number of factors into consideration such as cooling capacity, acceptable on road performance - pulling grades at big rig speeds isn't acceptable to pickup drivers - and so on..

I was stopped at a red light beside a commercial "hot shot" unit this week - it was a new GM diesel "dually" 4x4 pickup, with a tandem axle dual wheeled FW flatbed with a self contained picker crane to handle his freight. He left the light like a professional driver, not canein' the Duramax in a cloud of tuner smoke for all it was worth.

His licensed GVW door sticker said 22,000kg

I think my truck is rated at 21,300

22,000 kg is 45,000 # roughly

[fairhaven]

For what it's worth my truck does have 20" wheels/tires.

[sljkansas]

If you have a SRW I think you’re in for a rough time with a 40ft. I would think that a dually would be a better choice, if for no other reason for the stability, cross wind is going to push you around, and you’ll be white knuckled trying to keep it straight down the road.
My 5ver is 38.5 ft. I can feel the cross winds but the truck remains stabile.

[RedAce]

I think the constrain will be your rear truck tires. If you look at your loaded pin weight added to the rear axle truck weight, it will be mighty heavy for load range E tires.

[sk734]

06Fargo wrote:
We haul a truck camper and also toyhauler with the same dimensions and weights as you have posted with an 06 Dodge 3500 similar specs to your F350. It was time for tires so we have uprated tires and wheels to 19.5's (from Rickson). I don't like operating tires at max load ratings I like 15 to 20% spare capacity, especially in hot weather. We use a Firestone Ride-rite air spring kit with individual pressure control side to side - works a treat for leveling the camper on parking sites and leveling the ride height of the truck.
I haven't towed with the 19.5's yet, just got them on. I did haul a pallet of feed home 2300lbs 4 ft square x 4 ft high and the truck likes it, as usual.

As far as "Maximum allowed fifth wheel ratings" - trailer towing capacities take a number of factors into consideration such as cooling capacity, acceptable on road performance - pulling grades at big rig speeds isn't acceptable to pickup drivers - and so on..

I was stopped at a red light beside a commercial "hot shot" unit this week - it was a new GM diesel "dually" 4x4 pickup, with a tandem axle dual wheeled FW flatbed with a self contained picker crane to handle his freight. He left the light like a professional driver, not canein' the Duramax in a cloud of tuner smoke for all it was worth.

His licensed GVW door sticker said 22,000kg

I think my truck is rated at 21,300

[wandering1]

Only you can answer that. Get the specs for your truck from the dealer or manufacturer and see. You are legally responsible for having an adequate tow vehicle. Get the facts, not personal opinions.

[JIMNLIN]

The Crossroads Rushmore Lincoln shows a 15500 GVWR with a 2576 CCC. That means the trailer may weigh 12900 lbs before loading. Most folks add some where around 900-1500 lbs. Your gonna' weigh in the 14500 lb range with a 2850 lb pin weight at a minimum.

The 6.0 PSD won't have any problems pulling a 15500 lb trailer. The biggest safety issue is does your truck have enough OEM tire/wheel capacity to carry that load.
Your '10 F350 SRW has a 6900 RAWR with 18" tires at 3400-3500 lbs or the 20" tires at 3750 lbs. The 20" tires and wheels should have no problems carrying the pin weight from that size 5er.

[noteven]

We haul a truck camper and also toyhauler with the same dimensions and weights as you have posted with an 06 Dodge 3500 similar specs to your F350. It was time for tires so we have uprated tires and wheels to 19.5's (from Rickson). I don't like operating tires at max load ratings I like 15 to 20% spare capacity, especially in hot weather. We use a Firestone Ride-rite air spring kit with individual pressure control side to side - works a treat for leveling the camper on parking sites and leveling the ride height of the truck.
I haven't towed with the 19.5's yet, just got them on. I did haul a pallet of feed home 2300lbs 4 ft square x 4 ft high and the truck likes it, as usual.

As far as "Maximum allowed fifth wheel ratings" - trailer towing capacities take a number of factors into consideration such as cooling capacity, acceptable on road performance - pulling grades at big rig speeds isn't acceptable to pickup drivers - and so on..

I was stopped at a red light beside a commercial "hot shot" unit this week - it was a new GM diesel "dually" 4x4 pickup, with a tandem axle dual wheeled FW flatbed with a self contained picker crane to handle his freight. He left the light like a professional driver, not canein' the Duramax in a cloud of tuner smoke for all it was worth.

His licensed GVW door sticker said 22,000kg

[Buckeye_Chuck]

ata3001 wrote:
Camping? Really?

Let's see, do you sleep in a trailer or some sort of motorized vehicle? Do you spend a great deal of your time outside away from home and maybe even build a campfire or some kind of fire contained in a fire ring? Do you cook outside sometimes over that campfire? If so you may be camping. Or if you prefer, call it RVing, but to me it's camping albeit with more luxury but still camping. (typing with a smile)

-BC-

[ata3001]

Camping? Really?

[Buckeye_Chuck]

It sounds like you will be over your tires weight rating by the time you load up the truck and fifth wheel for camping. Bigger tires or lighter fiver may be in order. Of all the specs. The rear axel and tire weight ratings are the most important and most likely to be enforced. Not to say that all specs are not important.

-BC-

[Javi1]

fairhaven wrote:
One additional item. The truck is rated, for a fifth wheel, at a maximum of 15,300 lbs. I never expected to go camping at the dry weight the manufacturer states. Tires are E rated.

My LT245/17R are E rated.. but they're only 3195 lbs a piece SRW.. so even though my axle is rated higher I can only do 6390... My truck empty already has 3060 on the rear.. so 3300 is all I can put on it..