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Do I Have Enough Truck For This Fiver?

fairhaven
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I'm looking at a Crossroads Rushmore Lincoln. It is 40'11" in total length. Dry weight is 12924. The hitch weight is 2548. My truck is a 2010 F350 6.4 diesel, long box crew cab FX4. The door sticker shows GVWR is 11,500 and the rear GAWR is 6900.
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rhagfo
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avvidclif1 wrote:
The OP has a Ford, not a Dodge and he never said if it was a SRW or Dually. Just a 2010 F350 CC LB.

He states the GVWR 11,500 and axle rating of 6,900, sounds like a SRW F350 to me
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psford
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Atom Ant wrote:
avvidclif1 wrote:
The OP has a Ford, not a Dodge and he never said if it was a SRW or Dually. Just a 2010 F350 CC LB.
Doesn't matter what the OP said anymore. This is a resurrected thread and the OP said he already bought a rig and is out fishing instead of typing. :B



That was the best reply yet, some should practice that more often ,a little less typing ,and more fishing.

Atom_Ant
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avvidclif1 wrote:
The OP has a Ford, not a Dodge and he never said if it was a SRW or Dually. Just a 2010 F350 CC LB.
Doesn't matter what the OP said anymore. This is a resurrected thread and the OP said he already bought a rig and is out fishing instead of typing. :B
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avvidclif1
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The OP has a Ford, not a Dodge and he never said if it was a SRW or Dually. Just a 2010 F350 CC LB.
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whsk
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Dually is the answer!-whsk

Cummins12V98
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NC_Hauler
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Atom Ant wrote:
NC Hauler wrote:
06Fargo wrote:
The rear axle GAWR rating of 6200lbs axle on our SRW truck is the capacity of the 2 Rge E tires. Before I bought 19.5 tires I researched part numbers. Our SRW 3500 shares the same axle, bearings, & springs as a 3500 SLT dually of the same year, body, and equipment. The SLT dually has a rear rating of 9350lbs. The new 19.5 tires have a single rating of 4540lbs each x 2 = 9080lbs so by changing out the limiting component (Rge E tires) I have a set of components which offer capacity to spare.

I don't know if Ford trucks like fairhaven's F350 share components between dually and single wheel versions.

My rule of thumb is be careful with correct loading of components carrying the weight like tires, suspension, hitches, axles.

Don't worry near so much about "tow rating" if you are prepared to operate your vehicle with some common sense, and your trailer has a proper set of brakes and you are comfortable and have some experience with heavier vehicles.


Am I understanding you correctly that your rear axle weight rating is 6200#, and you added higher weight rated tires? So now your "weak link" is your rear axle?? I really wouldn't want to exceed my trucks GVWR, (but that's not real popular to say around here), but I'd think most would also not recommend to exceed one's rear axle weight rating. You stated you had OEM tire capacity that equalled the RAWR of your truck and now you've added higher weight range tires, exceeding your rear axle rating by well over 1.5 tons, is that safe? Do you now ignore the RAWR and figure you can load the truck over your trucks RAWR? Again,I would think that would make your RAWR the "weak link"., I'd be leery of doing that.

But he looked up all the numbers and found out all Dodges use the same parts, just different tires. :R


On second thought, you may be right because I'm not familiar with an 06' Dodge truck and the difference between the SRW and DRW truck of that year, so I'm not speaking from fact or experience, so I apologize for having "assumed", which I did.... I Just find it hard to believe that OEM tires on an 06 Dodge 3500 SRW and DRW truck was only difference between the two, seeing as how, if that's the case, the dually had 4 tires opposed to the SRW trucks two tires. ...it wasn't like that with an 01', 03' 05 and 07.5 Chevy (I was just trying to use illustration of older trucks that I owned). In fact the 3500 SRW and DRW trucks came with exact same "E" rated tires....I would have "thought" that the 3500 SRW truck came with the same "E" rated tires as the 3500 dually and that, at the very least, there was a different spring pack, or overload spring...Gee, one could have saved a pile of money, not pay extra for a dually and just buy 4 new tires and get a dually back in 06

It really is hard to believe that the two trucks he talked about, a 3500 SRW and 3500 DRW truck were identical, cept for tires...just fine that REALLY hard to believe,, but not that familiar with Dodge.

It used to be a stated on these forums that the "only difference" between a 3500 SRW and 3500DRW truck was just an overload spring, or even tires...not true with Ram, the new 3500 SRW truck has a RAWR of 7,000#, the 3500 DRWW truck has a RAWR of 9750#, that's a big difference
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Veebyes
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I want bigdon68's train horns. With those things EVERYONE will get out of my way when I can't stop my F150 with the 18,000# 5er on the back.
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Atom_Ant
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NC Hauler wrote:
06Fargo wrote:
The rear axle GAWR rating of 6200lbs axle on our SRW truck is the capacity of the 2 Rge E tires. Before I bought 19.5 tires I researched part numbers. Our SRW 3500 shares the same axle, bearings, & springs as a 3500 SLT dually of the same year, body, and equipment. The SLT dually has a rear rating of 9350lbs. The new 19.5 tires have a single rating of 4540lbs each x 2 = 9080lbs so by changing out the limiting component (Rge E tires) I have a set of components which offer capacity to spare.

I don't know if Ford trucks like fairhaven's F350 share components between dually and single wheel versions.

My rule of thumb is be careful with correct loading of components carrying the weight like tires, suspension, hitches, axles.

Don't worry near so much about "tow rating" if you are prepared to operate your vehicle with some common sense, and your trailer has a proper set of brakes and you are comfortable and have some experience with heavier vehicles.


Am I understanding you correctly that your rear axle weight rating is 6200#, and you added higher weight rated tires? So now your "weak link" is your rear axle?? I really wouldn't want to exceed my trucks GVWR, (but that's not real popular to say around here), but I'd think most would also not recommend to exceed one's rear axle weight rating. You stated you had OEM tire capacity that equalled the RAWR of your truck and now you've added higher weight range tires, exceeding your rear axle rating by well over 1.5 tons, is that safe? Do you now ignore the RAWR and figure you can load the truck over your trucks RAWR? Again,I would think that would make your RAWR the "weak link"., I'd be leery of doing that.

But he looked up all the numbers and found out all Dodges use the same parts, just different tires. :R
2008 Ford F350 2014 Redwood 36RL - Our Rig
Onan 5500, Splendide Ariston W/D, 8K axles, disk brakes, G614s, tri-glide pin box,
6-pt leveling, dual heat pump, dual awnings, Trav'ler SK-1000 Dish

NC_Hauler
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fairhaven wrote:
Wow, a post of mine from 6 months ago has resurfaced. I ended up buying the fiver in my signature.


I guess like some, (ie, me:)), I just saw it and didn't notice when it was first started...Stick around, they've laid longer than that and popped back up again.
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NC_Hauler
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06Fargo wrote:
The rear axle GAWR rating of 6200lbs axle on our SRW truck is the capacity of the 2 Rge E tires. Before I bought 19.5 tires I researched part numbers. Our SRW 3500 shares the same axle, bearings, & springs as a 3500 SLT dually of the same year, body, and equipment. The SLT dually has a rear rating of 9350lbs. The new 19.5 tires have a single rating of 4540lbs each x 2 = 9080lbs so by changing out the limiting component (Rge E tires) I have a set of components which offer capacity to spare.

I don't know if Ford trucks like fairhaven's F350 share components between dually and single wheel versions.

My rule of thumb is be careful with correct loading of components carrying the weight like tires, suspension, hitches, axles.

Don't worry near so much about "tow rating" if you are prepared to operate your vehicle with some common sense, and your trailer has a proper set of brakes and you are comfortable and have some experience with heavier vehicles.


Am I understanding you correctly that your rear axle weight rating is 6200#, and you added higher weight rated tires? So now your "weak link" is your rear axle?? I really wouldn't want to exceed my trucks GVWR, (but that's not real popular to say around here), but I'd think most would also not recommend to exceed one's rear axle weight rating. You stated you had OEM tire capacity that equalled the RAWR of your truck and now you've added higher weight range tires, exceeding your rear axle rating by well over 1.5 tons, is that safe? Do you now ignore the RAWR and figure you can load the truck over your trucks RAWR? Again,I would think that would make your RAWR the "weak link"., I'd be leery of doing that.
Jim & Kathy, (Boxers, Buddy & Sheba)
2016 Ram 3500 DRW Longhorn 4X4/CC/LB/Aisin/4.10/rear air assist ...Pearl White.
2016 DRV MS 36RSSB3/ W&D/ slide toppers/ DTV satellite/ 5.5K Onan propane gen.
B&W RVK3600 Hitch
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NC_Hauler
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kglenn wrote:
I have a 2012 F350 non dually short box crew cab with 20 inch tires and tow a 2013 Rushmore Washington model. My hitch weight is around 3500 lbs loaded to camp. My truck tow s this package easily. Feels very safe at any freeway speeds up to 70 mph. Still felt ok at 80 mph but not style. My package is still legal on all axles


Running at those speeds, hope you don't have regular ST tires on the 5er', most are only speed rated to 65 mph...running 70 to 80 mph and having a tire blow out could caused some real damage on a 5er, and possibly a lot worse than that....
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2016 DRV MS 36RSSB3/ W&D/ slide toppers/ DTV satellite/ 5.5K Onan propane gen.
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fairhaven
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Wow, a post of mine from 6 months ago has resurfaced. I ended up buying the fiver in my signature.
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Ashley-13(Daughter)
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wandering1
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So what do the towing specs for your truck say? If you dont have them then get them from your dealer or manufacturer. The info on your door sticker is only part of what you need to know. Get the facts not personal opinions. You are legally responsible for having an adequate tow vehicle.
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