Dually or single rear wheel 3500 purchase advice please!
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Jun-09-2017 04:40 PM
1. Should I purchase a dually or a single rear tire long bed truck? Looking at the factory tow guide for a Dodge, the single rear wheel and dually is about the same?
2. What are the advantages and disadvantages of either truck?
3. Do you recommend the factory auto leveling air suspension system?
4. What gears should I get? 3.42 ,3.73 or 4.10
5. Looking to get a BW hitch. I have tools and I am handy. Should most of add on items be installed myself, truck dealer, independent parts / service person or factory BW hitch dealer?
6. Anything else to add on?
7. Who do recommend for the best deals? An Auto broker, AAA, Dave Smith in Kellogg, Id or the guy in Caldwell, Boise area, Costco or someone else?
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Jun-11-2017 08:02 AM
Jim
2016 Ram 3500 DRW Longhorn 4X4/CC/LB/Aisin/4.10/rear air assist ...Pearl White.
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Jun-11-2017 06:32 AM
tinner12002 wrote:
A Ram dually diesel with the Aisin trans and at least 3.73 gearing to make life easier for you truck. If you ever plan on a bigger or heavier RV then get the 4.10s. I'm not a fan of the factory air-ride as I prefer the leaf springs for reliability. One with factory 5th wheel prep would be nice too along with the B&W 3600 to go with the factory puck system.
Since you have the 4.10's you already know how well they tow at 1,750 rpm in 6th at 60. 3.42's give the same rpm in 5th. This works well with the AISIN because of it's lower starting gears. I have driven my Sons 3500 SRW with 14K dump VERY overloaded with combined about 28K. He has the AISIN and on grades it took off very easily. I towed that weight with my 11 HO Dually and 68RFE, only issue was getting the load rolling on the grades. The 3.42/AISIN combo can't be beat for 28K and under. RAM says the same thing just link at the chart below, read the bottom three lines.
Please tell me of ANY reliability issues with the Factory Rear Air ride on the RAM 3500's???
I agree the puck system can't be beat along with the B&W
RVK3600.
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Jun-11-2017 06:06 AM
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Jun-10-2017 04:38 PM
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Jun-10-2017 12:55 PM
In 2009 we lost our first Alpenlite34RLR as a result of a blowover. The trailer was of similar size & weight as a DRV 32TK3. The only reason the truck did not stay attatched to the trailer & on its side is more than likely the extra stability of being a dually. The truck refused to be rolled & taken down the 50' embankment with the trailer. The 5th wheel was spread open & the kingpin tore out releasing the truck, which stayed at the top of the embankment, possibly saving our lives that day.
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2006 Chevy 3500 LT, CC,LB 6.6L Diesel
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Jun-10-2017 06:32 AM
Personally I would contact DaveSmith in Idaho along with Dennis Dillon. They are a good place to buy or at least see where a local dealer should be for price. The general rule off the lot or ordering is invoice minus any incentives at the time. For a truck like mine LongHorn fully loaded you should get around 12K off sticker, maybe more,
You have to have a dually! Towing capacity is not the issue it's what weight can the rear axle handle. My RAM Dually can carry 6K the SRW 3500 is no where near that. Your RV loaded will be at least 17K so 25 percent of that for pin is 4,300#. That is way over SRW territory. Besides a SRW will not be able to handle the rV in a panic situation like a dually can.
As far as the details on the truck yes a B&W RVK3600 is the best hitch hands down out there. I personally like the LongHorn for it's VERY nice interior with top quality leather seats that don't leave you sore at the end of the day.
The AISIN is for sure the way to go with the extra power and lower starting gears that make getting the load rolling with ease. For your weight the 3.42 gears will give you the best solo mileage but they will perform as well as the 4.10's towing in 5th 1,750 RPM's at 60 the same as 4.10's in 6th at 60. If you ever plan on a heavier DRV then I would highly suggest forgetting the 3.73 and go to the 4.10.
The factory rear air ride is a great option. The unloaded ride is better than the trucks without the option and the loaded ride is great. The system keeps the truck at the same ride height automatically.
Rear air came out in 15 but I would buy new as the used prices are not too far from new.
If you want the icing add a HighwayProducts bed height 30" front to back tool box. They are NOT cheap but very nice!!!
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"
"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600
2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable
2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD
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Jun-10-2017 06:21 AM
Should I purchase a dually or a single rear tire long bed truck? Looking at the factory tow guide for a Dodge, the single rear wheel and dually is about the same?
Tow ratings are about how much trailer weight a truck can pull which no doubt either truck you mention can easily do.
Now the biggie is how much weight can a truck carry.
The 3500 SRW has 7000 RAWR. This truck can carry around 3500-3800 lb in the bed depending on cab/2wd vs 4wd before exceeding a wheel or tire rating.
The 3500 DRW has those big 9750 RAWR and can carry in the 5800-6200 lb range depending on vehicle selections.
The trailer has a 14k dry weigh and a 17500 GVWR with 4500 lbs of CCC. After loading the trailer it may weigh in the 15.5-16k lb range. Add a hitch and junk in the truck along with occupants/etc and a 3500+ lb pin weight....IMO a 3500 SRW will be maxed out or even overloaded. I would go with the DRW/Cummins in the color of your choice.
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Jun-10-2017 04:51 AM
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Jun-09-2017 09:10 PM
Things to consider when looking at the duallies. Something smaller not really an option since you have the 5er already.
Brakes- costly and not like your average car if you're a diyer. Ours require pulling the axle shaft (F350)
Tires- You need at least 6, 7 if doing spare at same time
Roadside Assistance- I would put this as a must (if doing long trips) unless you are also bringing a small shop with you. Think- if you get a flat. Changing a tire isn't exactly easy with a breaker bar and extension on the rears.
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Jun-09-2017 06:25 PM
I think you would be much wiser to select a dually truck for that trailer; even if the numbers just barely work with a SRW.
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Jun-09-2017 06:16 PM