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heavyodie1
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Considering buying a Denali 297. Can't find many reviews about the Denali even on the Dutchman forum. Anybody with opinions about them?
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babysdenali
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Sorry to hear that others have had Dutchmen Denali trauma. We were recently told our trailer issues rank in the top 5% of the worst experienced. We bought our 2013 289RK in the fall of 2012. The very first night we had it home we discovered 3 streams of water cascading down the main room window. We lost two days of a 5 day hunt getting the leak stopped.
On the road after the repair we found the main slide leaking into the floor and the insulated belly cover had come unsealed and had become a road-spray scoop beneath the trailer.
That night on a lay over we heard a clunk and found that the angle iron support that ran under the fresh water bladder had snapped the tiny sheet metal screw that held it in place. It dropped one end of the angle iron on the ground. On the way back the other side fell off, we just got lucky they both happened while we were stopped.
We have also had to have the main slide motors and slide mechanism worked on /replaced several times, leaking skylights, main slide seal come off, kitchen cabinets separate from the wall, entertainment cabinet separate, bedroom slide trim come off, kitchen faucet blow out (while on the trailer pump) etc. etc. etc.
We have only been able to have the trailer out a few time over two years. Not a single trip without it going back to shop. We missed several outings because we didn't have the unit.
This was to be my wife's escape from cancer treatments and has become a true source of anxiety and frustration.
While Curtis Trailers has treated us ok, they would not work with us to replace the trailer or to get Dutchmen to step up. They kept saying we had to give them the opportunity to correct the problems. They even referred us to the Oregon Dutchmen Factory to have them work on things, but Dutchmen closed the plant in the middle of our repair.
Now their general manager says it's been two years Dutchmen won't do anything so the best they can do is trade us out of ours into something else. Although they are offering the new one at their cost, we are still losing money on the current one. Plus the repeated 200 mile round trip costs for each repair.
ANYONE BUYING A DUTCHMEN PRODUCT ESPECIALLY A DENALI BEWARE.!!!
I have now had salesmen in Oregon and Idaho tell us specifically the Denali has serious quality issues and they won't even show them to customers due to the constant repair issues.
Saddest part for us is no one at Dutchmen seems to give a crap.
We owned a Forest River Salem before for 8 years w/o a hiccup. We researched hard before choosing Dutchmen Denali because of Thor's rep etc. Guess we missed some info along the way.
Anyone with ideas to help feel free to share, jerryphyllis850@embarqmail.com. This Denali has been the worst vehicle experience of our lives.

tahoemc
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I have a 2012 Denali, had warranty issues re: bedroom doorframe came apart, wardrobe door frame came apart and the mirror attached to it shattered. Other smaller items that the factory eventually authorized the dealer to repair. My most recent repair was replacing all 3 roof vents as the material on the originals severely disintegrated. I have also invested in beefing up the leaf springs and equalizers. To date I have invested over $4,000 in three years for repairs and upgrades.

The biggest issue I had was over the premature oxidation of the brown paint/gel coat (never did get an honest answer to what finish it was) on the front cap that was noticed approximately 15 months after delivery. Dutchmen argued that it was out of warranty, I argued wtf, it was only 15 months old and clearly a manufacturing defect. If you google this website, the Dutchmen Owners website, etc., you will find there are many folks with '12 and '13 models with similar front cap finish problems. After lots of back and forth with Dutchmen, they agreed to pay for half of the refinish. How sporting of them!

If I had to do it over again, I would give more serious consideration to another brand. I realize most, if not all, units have issues. But by far, this unit has clearly been the most troublesome. Must be something with todays QA at Thor Industries, and particularly Dutchmen??? While I do enjoy the layout, and the rare trouble free moments I do experience using it, I will attest that my next unit will not be a Dutchmen/Denali.

Best of luck to you and your ultimate purchase decision.
2004 Ram 3500 Quad 4x4 Cummins w/auto 4.10 Reese w/ slider
2012 Dutchmen Denali 262rlx w/Moutain Package

heavyodie1
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Thank you for your experiences. That is the kind of feedback that I was looking for. The other trailer that we are looking at is the Rockwood 8289. Basically the same floor plan but there are things such as insulation that I like better about the Denali.

DutchmenSport
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Sorry I couldn't help you more, I gave it my best shot. So how about I share from personal experience....

I have owned 3 TT's under the Thor Industries brands, Dutchmen, Keystone, and Outback (in that order). Click on "My Profile" on the left and you'll see photos of all 3 campers I've had.

I've had good success with all three campers. They were not fifth-wheels, but the brand is still the brand.

The Dutchmen we had for about 3 years. It simply got too crowded and we hated the corner bed after a while, plus it had no oven.

The Springdale had no slides, and although longer, after a while, we really hated the floor plan. But it was a good trailer. We had it for 8 years and not a bit of trouble other than normal wear and tear. We did have a serious problem with it the first year we owned it. The tongue broke when towing. Yea, really. Unfortunately, it was just a fluke, luck of the draw, or a 3 leaf clover instead of 4. Whatever, we got the lemon. But here is where my loyalty to Thor Industries became solidified. They fixed the tongue, welded a new one on it when it was physically located 60 miles away from home and incapable of being towed. They sent two guys out and welded a new tongue on. It was far superior to the original. Like I said, it was a pure fluke this happened, but Keystone made it 100% right. All I had to do was paint the new tongue. This may sound like a horror story, but it actually made the camper stronger than ever and we never had another issue for years. The only other issue we had was a wire to the brakes rubbed and was causing a short. This happened in the 8th year we owned the camper, and I took it to an independent shop to fix it.

The Outback has been flawless. We've owned it for over a year now.I had a minor defect that warranty fixed (took 4 days from the time I dropped it off at the original dealer to the time I picked it up). I could have had it sooner, but waited till a Saturday to pick it up so I wouldn't miss work a second day.

I have seen hundreds of other Thor Industries brands, 5er's and TT's. Cougar is well made. Cougars 10-15 years old are still running around, no problem.

I know there are others that may have had issues with some of the Thor Industries brands. I think some of those issues are personal attitudes that get in the way too, really "turning off" the folks they need the help from too.

Denali falls right beside Dutchmen, they are manufactured at the same location, they use the same parts, appliances, everything. Watching how these campers are made, and I've been on a few manufacturing tours, they are all made the same way, by the same people, at the same plant, using the same materials. I would not hesitate to purchase a Denali if they had the floor plan we were looking for.

And as far as after purchase follow-up with your dealer, well .... than an entire different matter. All three of my dealers were as different as night and day, but all 3 turned out to be very good with follow-up after the sale. The first was Tom Raper in Richmond, Indiana (Dutchmen), the second was Stout's RV in Greenwood, Indiana, which is now Camping World (we purchased the camper at the same time "Stout's" sold out to Camping World. All our paper work said "Stout's RV" but 2 weeks after the sale they were Camping World. But (at that time), Camping World was marvelous with follow up as they inherited all the Stouts customers and contracts and such.

The third camper came from Wallnut Ridge near New Castle, Indiana. And by far, they have the Par Excellence in Service and follow up warranty work from anyone! They do 2 complete - after sale - inspections on your RV ... 3 months after you purchase it and 11 months after you purchase it. And if anything is defective, broken, anything, they fix it. They want their campers 1 year warranty expiring 100% perfect! They work very hard to make this happen.

The other dealer I have a close association with is Anderson, Indiana, Modern Trailer Sales. They are a Thor Industries (Primarily Keystone) dealer. But their service department is also Par Excellent! As I've had several dealing with them on small issues, like extra wiring, vent replacements, small upgrades, stuff, getting parts and accessories ... even getting me new wheels for my Barker Blue Tote! Very impressed with them too.

So, what I'm saying is, I think you can be comfortable with Denali, but definitely choose your dealer wisely. Ask lots of questions about the dealership itself, what to expect for follow-up, warranty work, customized work, ensuring your tow vehicle is up to 'snuff', not giving you a snow job and follow through on anything you might need them for. I think this is more important than the brand of camper these days. I think all the brands are made pretty good, if they are maintained, loved, and pampered a little by their owners!

Wow! I've really rambled. Sorry if I seized your thread, I just feel confident your looking at a right decant trailer and hope I can eliminate some of your concerns. Good luck!

heavyodie1
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Are there just not many Denali fifth wheels out there because I just don't find a lot of comments either good or bad. Thanks for the links provided but a lot of the comments were from a couple of years ago so that's what makes me wonder about how many units are out there. Sometimes no comments mean people are happy with their purchase.

DutchmenSport
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goducks10 wrote:
C-Bears wrote:
One thing has changed I think, doesn't Keystone own them now?


I think GM owns them.


Yup, I think you're on to something there:


2014 GMC Terrain-Denali


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goducks10
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C-Bears wrote:
One thing has changed I think, doesn't Keystone own them now?


I think GM owns them.

DutchmenSport
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Here's some more help for you. First off, Keystone does not own Denali. You are right that Dutchmen does. Both Dutchmen and Keystone fall under the ThorIndustries umbrella, but Keystone and Dutchmen are brothers with the same dad (Thor Industries) and Denali would be a nephew to Keystone, not the son (Ok, I really enjoy genealogy and I've got Thor Industries down pretty good!

Here's some forums that may help you forumulate a better judgment. I did not read them so have no idea what content they contain:

iRV forum - thread specific for Denali

Woodalls forum (which is RV.net also)

RVPICS.com

Dutchmen Forum - you just gotta read through it, there's lots there.

Hope this helps.

tegu69
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We had a 2010 Denali rear kitchen and liked it very much, except. After owning it for about 8 months, the floor developed a noticeable hump or warping. We took it to a local dealer and they had to take a bunch of pictures for the manufacturer to determine how to fix the problem. Their solution was to cut the vinyl flooring at the edges of the furniture and pull it off the bad area. They then cut a square out of the floor and replaced that area. When that was done they put the old vinyl back, sealing the edges. They also cut an access hole in the underbelly and then taped it back in place.
When I got it back home, I started noticing bumps in the floor from where they neglected to sweep the area around the repair and small particles were trapped under the vinyl.
I took the trailer back and told them this was not going to fly with me (the tape was now dragging the ground from the underbelly). The dealer eventually took up the old vinyl and replaced with new and replaced part of the underbelly. I also had a problem with the axles not lining up, but that's another story.
I hope that is true about new owners.

C-Bears
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One thing has changed I think, doesn't Keystone own them now?
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heavyodie1
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I have searched the forum and didn't come up with much. That's why I posted here, trying to do my homework. There is a lot of difference between a 2006 trailer and a 2014.

knshook
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We traded in our 2012 Denali in Aug. While we owned it we found a wealth of information on the Dutchmen owners forum. I would direct you there. As with any purchase-important to do your homework!

DutchmenSport
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heavyodie1 wrote:
Noticed these are from 2006. I'm sure a lot has changed since then.


Basically, not much, just the electronics is 21st century.

heavyodie1
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Noticed these are from 2006. I'm sure a lot has changed since then.