Hauling horses in a toy hauler

[Winged_One]

WAIT!! Don't lock it yet. LOL

I was watching those toyhauler threads on hauling horses and happened to come across these "toyhauler"'s.

Lonestar

I just thought it would fill an apparent need.



And I didn't see anyone post about them.

[yr2017]

Two 8000lb axles w/hydralic brakes and the Jamco brand is well known for it's superior strength. When we hauled draft horses or even Mustangs, there was very little damage to the interior stalls. Not because it was a tight fit, but because the walls were so heavily built (ie thick). I had a Featherlight previously that sustained damage due to it's thin walls.

This one is almost like mine - with our mods
www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=357714

[yr2017]

Ric Flair wrote:

yr2017 wrote:

Ric Flair wrote:


resmas is correct. LQ HTs are narrower, heavier, very expensive, and purpose built to meet a specific niche. That also makes them harder to sell.

That's all true to some degree, BUT they are lower, easier to climb into bed, have multiple bathrooms and more living space than most all 5ers. Not all are more expensive. You can buy them from $25000 up to $150000. Mine cost $36989 new, weighs 16k empty and 22k full - match that up with a TH. I added the extra bathroom for $400

Sounds like a great deal. I will grant you they are lower, but I can't agree that they have "more living space than most all 5ers". I've been around quite a few HTs w/ LQs and even the big ones often only have 1 slide out and many don't even have that. I've never understood why, but maybe someone here could provide an answer. Weight? Cost?

P.S. Big Al, I'd love to see some pictures of your rig. Are you pulling it with the KW or the Unimog? Pretty cool either way.

Here's my specs: 35ft box + 8ft over the bed - 8.5ft outside dimension / 8ft inside dimension x 7.5ft inside height/ R15 insulation thruout. All aluminum channel construction. Where the wheel cutouts are located are cabinets with tools and a compressor. Also have a 12cuft freezer. Onan 9kw gen on top w/hay storage - used mostly for other storage. It was custom built from the standard 35 unit. 60 gal fresh water, 40 gal LP, dual landing gear. Two spare 14 ply tires.

The inside height of most all 5er's is just a waste of space. Who needs 10ft inside when 7.5 is most practical? Who needs air resistance w/11 outside when 8 is practical? Which fits behind most all class 3-4-5 trucks - the 5er or the LQ? Which is stronger fiberglas or aluminum channel?

I am pulling this with KW and am re-fitting the Uni for a flatbed to accommodate the trailer.

[ghostrider421]

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[Ric_Flair]

yr2017 wrote:

Ric Flair wrote:


resmas is correct. LQ HTs are narrower, heavier, very expensive, and purpose built to meet a specific niche. That also makes them harder to sell.

That's all true to some degree, BUT they are lower, easier to climb into bed, have multiple bathrooms and more living space than most all 5ers. Not all are more expensive. You can buy them from $25000 up to $150000. Mine cost $36989 new, weighs 16k empty and 22k full - match that up with a TH. I added the extra bathroom for $400

Sounds like a great deal. I will grant you they are lower, but I can't agree that they have "more living space than most all 5ers". I've been around quite a few HTs w/ LQs and even the big ones often only have 1 slide out and many don't even have that. I've never understood why, but maybe someone here could provide an answer. Weight? Cost?

P.S. Big Al, I'd love to see some pictures of your rig. Are you pulling it with the KW or the Unimog? Pretty cool either way.

[yr2017]

Ric Flair wrote:


resmas is correct. LQ HTs are narrower, heavier, very expensive, and purpose built to meet a specific niche. That also makes them harder to sell.

That's all true to some degree, BUT they are lower, easier to climb into bed, have multiple bathrooms and more living space than most all 5ers. Not all are more expensive. You can buy them from $25000 up to $150000. Mine cost $36989 new, weighs 16k empty and 22k full - match that up with a TH. I added the extra bathroom for $400

[Ric_Flair]

We primarily use our TH for horse shows and haul the horses separately. The TH is our place to stay and carry our ATV. A lot more livable solution for us.

resmas is correct. LQ HTs are narrower, heavier, very expensive, and purpose built to meet a specific niche. That also makes them harder to sell.

[resmas]

You can definitely use a living quarter horse trailer as a toy hauler, but I would NEVER use a RV toy hauler as a horse trailer for the same reasons others have listed. RV's are simply not made to haul live animals like horses.

Horse trailers can definitely be just as nice, or even MUCH nicer, than RV's. They are generally built A LOT sturdier and heavier than typical RV's.

The main issue, IMO, that a person would run into when using a horse trailer as a toy hauler is width. Some living quarter horse trailers are only 6'9" wide on the interior, with fully exterior wheel wells. Many are 8' wide on the exterior, but still have the wheel wells bumping into the interior which brings you back to the 6'9" limit... Most fifth wheel toy hauler garages are built above or behind the wheel wells, so you have the full 8' or more interior space to load toys into.

Cost wise... you will pay a lot more for a LQ horse trailer than you will for a toy hauler. A LOT MORE. A cheap model with a slide out will run you close to $150K, a decked out "super slide" model with full bath, mid tack and lots of bells and whistles will run well over $200K. You can find "weekender package" LQ horse trailers for about $30K. Cabinet with a toilet, "cowboy shower" in the horse compartment, tiny sink, tiny fridge, tiny microwave, bed in the nose over the hitch, and no seating area. Good enough for a weekend when 90% of your time is spent outside the trailer.

[ghostrider421]

harley hitchiker wrote:
at the Hershey pa. rv show last year there was a company that made a slide in aluminum slant load unit that would fit in most toyhaulers with a 10 or 12 ft. garage.

The biggest problem is that toyhaulers fiberglas sides are not designed for a pair of thousand pound animals that tend to move around in it. A better choice is a mule or a real horse/livestock trailer.

[bigdogger]

It's a lot of things, but it isn't a toy hauler. It's a horse trailer, plain and simple. Horse trailers with living quarters are nothing new. Does look nice (and expensive, there is a used one listed for sale (no price listed) where the owner claims a replacement spec'd out the same would run $240,000). Secretariat should have had is so good.

[Ric_Flair]

I carry a mule in the back of my toy hauler

[thebudman]

harley hitchiker wrote:
I thought my biggest concern was getting the horse to walk up the higher than horse trailer ramp.

I think that a cattle prod would take of that problem. I've seen a more than one fully-grown holstein cow go flying up a ramp like a bovine winged-pegasus once that thing kisses their flank. Granted, it's known as a "cattle" prod, but I'm sure it would work just fine on getting complaince out of horses as well. In fact, I'll bet there's a few horse ranches with a prod or two sitting in the barn, fully charged and ready to go.

[harley_hitchike]

at the Hershey pa. rv show last year there was a company that made a slide in aluminum slant load unit that would fit in most toyhaulers with a 10 or 12 ft. garage. I don't remember their name but looked like a quality product. I thought my biggest concern was getting the horse to walk up the higher than horse trailer ramp. but otherwise looked doable

[captainjohn2008]

Yup, that's what I was taking about!!

[thebudman]

It doesn't look like there's alot of floor space to anchor the ratcheting straps, the ones needed to keep the horses secured to the floor. They'd be less likely to kick, move about and cause problems if their movments were restricted during transport.