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โNov-11-2014 07:53 AM
2012 Keystone Avalanche...4 Slides
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โNov-28-2014 04:34 AM
Now if you were to use them on a service truck in the north country then the truck won't get the best of traction on icy or snow pack roads.
The tire tread is a great tread for a free rolling position.
Keep in mind here your posting info most folks already know . We can tell you what works better and what doesn't work the best.
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โNov-27-2014 06:36 AM
When I was researching these tires, Duravis R250 and Michelin XPS Rib, both tire manufacturers stated that these tires were not suited for use in freezing or sub freezing temperatures.
I inquired as to why these tires were not suited to freezing conditions, the simplified answer I received was lack of traction in those conditions.
That being said, if one was to use these tires in freezing/sub-freezing conditions, there would be a dramatic loss of traction. That being said, in the case of a trailer, when the trailer brakes were applied, or when cornering there would a huge increase in the chances of jack knifing the trailer as the tow vehicle provided stopping power and the trailer brakes would have locked the wheels, and when cornering the trailer would experience a snap over steer.
Having said all of the above, I'm not that concerned about the freezing temperature limitation as 99% of my towing is in above freezing temperatures.
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โNov-14-2014 07:16 PM
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โNov-12-2014 06:01 PM
Husaberg wrote:
The Duravis R 250 comes in a R 500 which is an all season and I believe is the same construction, the Michelin Rib definitely comes in an all season version.
The Michelin site has a rating or feed back section on their Rib tires and you see lots of folks with 5'ers solving their blow out problems.
Dale
The R500 is a two ply poly carcass. The M895 is the A/S steel ply carcass, however may have been discontinued. Chris
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โNov-12-2014 02:28 PM
Trixie, you should visit a CAT scale with your rig all loaded up just like you were headed out on a trip to know your weights for sure.
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โNov-12-2014 02:25 PM
C-Bears wrote:Trixie47 wrote:
Tired of all the blowouts we have had on the 5er. Originals ST235/80/r16 E. I see lots of controversy on the ST tires. What is the most people are using to replace tires with ? I am looking at Bridgestone Duravis R250's LT235/85/r16 E. Would these interchange with what I now have on my 5er? Avalanche 330RE 11,710 pounds. I am getting really confused and with all the knowledge on this forum figured someone would be able to help me out....Thanks :?
Before I made a tire decision I would weigh my unit. Is the 11,710 pounds of your trailer loaded weight or is that dry weight. If that is dry, or "paperwork" weight you could actually weigh closer to 14,000 or more.
My FW only weighed 12,982 when delivered. It had "China Bombs" on it that held up well when someone delivered it from Goshen Indiana to the Florida dealer. But loaded I am over 15,000 pounds (Cat Scale). The FW did not leave the dealer lot after I made the purchase without new G614's on it.
Good advice - weight the trailer and have the right tire - load range to carry the trailer weight
My case - Trailer Axle - 9220 lbs.
Have 4 tires rated at 3420lbs each.
But only rated for 65 mph - not designed to be hauling a trailer 70 to 75 mph down the road like allot of folks do.
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โNov-12-2014 12:47 PM
Trixie47 wrote:
Tired of all the blowouts we have had on the 5er. Originals ST235/80/r16 E. I see lots of controversy on the ST tires. What is the most people are using to replace tires with ? I am looking at Bridgestone Duravis R250's LT235/85/r16 E. Would these interchange with what I now have on my 5er? Avalanche 330RE 11,710 pounds. I am getting really confused and with all the knowledge on this forum figured someone would be able to help me out....Thanks :?
Before I made a tire decision I would weigh my unit. Is the 11,710 pounds of your trailer loaded weight or is that dry weight. If that is dry, or "paperwork" weight you could actually weigh closer to 14,000 or more.
My FW only weighed 12,982 when delivered. It had "China Bombs" on it that held up well when someone delivered it from Goshen Indiana to the Florida dealer. But loaded I am over 15,000 pounds (Cat Scale). The FW did not leave the dealer lot after I made the purchase without new G614's on it.
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โNov-12-2014 10:29 AM
I'm not the only one with this issue, lots of folks with Fifth Wheel trailers, Travel Trailers, Utility Trailers, etc... using the made in China ST tires have all had similar problems.
After a lot of research and the experience of many who were kind enough to post their own research and solutions here's what I came up with.
First was to up size the rims to 16" so I could install high quality Michelin Rib commercial truck tires (245/75). I was fortunate that I had 6.5" between the stock 15" tires, and ended up with a little over 4" between the tires with the new Michelin Rib tires.
The Michelin Rib tires are retread able and have steel plies in the side walls as well as the tread area. They also have a "Q" speed rating which is 99MPH continuous. Compared with the "ST" speed rating of 65MPH continuous.
Bridgestone also makes a similar tire, the Duravis R-250. I went with the Michelin's as their web site had a feed back section with countless stories of Fifth Wheelers and other recreational vehicle owners who had the blow out problems and all were eliminated with the installation of the Michelin Rib tires.
I have no desire to tow my TH at 90MPH!
However, what I have found out is that the ST tire speed rating of 65MPH is absolute, and as soon as one exceeds this speed when the tires are hot the ST tires tread will start De-lamminating from the carcass, which will give you the surprise blow out at some point in the future with NO imminent indication, and NO warning. In California, (PRK), the speed limit for vehicles with trailers is 55MPH, all of the other states that I travel in, the speed limit is 75MPH for all vehicles. I used to only tow at 65MPH because of the speed rating, and was always in the way.
Second, I found through my research that many trailer axles are miss-aligned from the factory. WTH???? With this in mind, and the fact that there are so many blowouts from the crappy Chinese made tires, it is astounding that the manufacturers are still putting them on their vehicles. One Chinese made tire was so bad the NHTSA banned these tires for sale in the United States.
So second on the list was to visit truck alignment shop that could do an alignment on the trailer axles. Part of this work was to have all of the suspension bushings replaced with bronze bushings and wet bolts installed. (Trailers come with Delrin bushings-plastic-again WTH?) I made an appointment three weeks in advance to get in there. I took vacation time to get the trailer in there and when I got there they didn't have room on their rack to do the work. The tech showed me the bushing kit, and told me he would check back later. Here is the best part, later in the day the tech called back and told me they didn't do any of the work and I had to get there before they closed to retrieve my trailer! SURPRISE! The tech told me that I should call back in a week to see when I could get it in and that they would make things right for wasting my time. Long story short, they never did and I had Edi Luna at Benchmark RV (818-504-4813) where I store my trailer do the bushing work, Benchmark had the work done in a few days.
I found an old school BEAR Frame & Wheel alignment shop in Glendora (626-335-0243), to have the camber and toe check on the trailer axles. It was no surprise to find that the rear axle had 1/4" of toe out, meaning the tires were dragging down the highway. And, the drivers side rear had 1* of negative camber, and the passenger side right rear had 0* of camber. The well seasoned alignment tech, using the old school three point alignment tool, chains and a bottle jack corrected the negative camber on the LR. Then using the same bottle jack for support, and a porta ram corrected the toe to zero inches. After the Toe was corrected they re-checked that the camber on both wheels was still at zero.
Moving to the front axle, they found the LF had 1 &1/4* of negative camber, and the RF had negative 1/4* of negative camber, and the toe was zero. Using the same method as above, the camber was corrected on both wheels. Upon re-checking the toe, this correction had created some toe out. Again, using the same method as above, the toe was corrected to zero, and then the camber was re-checked.
I am very hopeful that with wheels now running straight and true, and the addition of the best tires I could find my blow out problem will now be eliminated and maybe a little better mpg to boot.
If you have any questions please shoot me a note!
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โNov-12-2014 10:06 AM
Trixie47 wrote:
Tired of all the blowouts we have had on the 5er. Originals ST235/80/r16 E. I see lots of controversy on the ST tires. What is the most people are using to replace tires with ? I am looking at Bridgestone Duravis R250's LT235/85/r16 E. Would these interchange with what I now have on my 5er? Avalanche 330RE 11,710 pounds. I am getting really confused and with all the knowledge on this forum figured someone would be able to help me out....Thanks :?
Hi Trixie,
The Duravis R 250 is a good tire! It is a commercial truck tire that is re-treadable, steel belts in the side walls and lots of tread.
The only draw back on this tire and the Michelin equivalent-Michelin XPS Rib-is that they are not meant for use in freezing conditions
The Duravis R 250 comes in a R 500 which is an all season and I believe is the same construction, the Michelin Rib definitely comes in an all season version.
The Michelin site has a rating or feed back section on their Rib tires and you see lots of folks with 5'ers solving their blow out problems.
Dale
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โNov-11-2014 02:06 PM
Trixie47 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback. After reading here and doing a little more research I have decided on the Bridgestone Duravis tires. They do fit my budget better then the Michelin. Although I know they are an excellent tire (Michelin), I am hoping the Duravis will perform well also. Thanks again for all the help !! ๐
Excellent choice with the R250. I run Michelin XPS Ribs on our 5ver and Bridgestone Duravis R500 on the rear of the dually, all 3 are good dependable long wearing tires.
Enjoy your new tires and peace of mind.
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โNov-11-2014 02:03 PM
4 Maxxis M8008 ST Radial BS Trailer Tire ST235/80R16 124 E1 BSW
$152.00/tire and $80.00 to have them mounted on the wheels and balanced
Have been RV'ing since 1991 and never had a blow out. Keep the tires at the right inflation and monitor the wear.
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โNov-11-2014 01:42 PM
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JT Strong Arms , Bridgestone R250'S, KYB Monotube Gas shocks
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โNov-11-2014 01:41 PM
Trixie47 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback. After reading here and doing a little more research I have decided on the Bridgestone Duravis tires. They do fit my budget better then the Michelin. Although I know they are an excellent tire (Michelin), I am hoping the Duravis will perform well also. Thanks again for all the help !! ๐
The Duravis will work just fine for you:)
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โNov-11-2014 01:39 PM
2012 Keystone Avalanche...4 Slides