Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[SmittysRV]

avvidclif1 wrote:

Dave3421 wrote:
So this is what I now understand. The front axle is 3152, rear 3683. Max tawr is 7000. Max per each axle is 3950. The hitch weight is 1035, dry load is 7420, cargo max 3420. The total for truck and trailer I weighted was 14160. Hope this clarifies things.

Just FYI
Steer Axle, front wheels the ones that steer the truck
Drive axle, back wheels the ones that make it move
Trailer axles, weight on trailer axles, 1, 2, or 3.
Hitch weight: Difference between the Drive axle weight when truck is weighed unhitched and hitched up to trailer.
GCVWR: The whole banana...

Yup what he said!!!

[avvidclif1]

Dave3421 wrote:
So this is what I now understand. The front axle is 3152, rear 3683. Max tawr is 7000. Max per each axle is 3950. The hitch weight is 1035, dry load is 7420, cargo max 3420. The total for truck and trailer I weighted was 14160. Hope this clarifies things.

Just FYI
Steer Axle, front wheels the ones that steer the truck
Drive axle, back wheels the ones that make it move
Trailer axles, weight on trailer axles, 1, 2, or 3.
Hitch weight: Difference between the Drive axle weight when truck is weighed unhitched and hitched up to trailer.
GCVWR: The whole banana...

[Dave3421]

So this is what I now understand. The front axle is 3152, rear 3683. Max tawr is 7000. Max per each axle is 3950. The hitch weight is 1035, dry load is 7420, cargo max 3420. The total for truck and trailer I weighted was 14160. Hope this clarifies things.

[DW-gray]

Dave3421 wrote:
From what I gather.....the steer axle is the truck weight itself and the drive axle is the weight of the trailer. I will have to go and get weighed again. I was confused as well. The total was 14160 for truck and trailer. That is why I weighed the truck itself..... 5800#.

You have to weigh twice. Once with the trailer and again without the trailer. Use the available worksheet at Fifth Wheel St. that details how to weigh correctly.

[Dave3421]

From what I gather.....the steer axle is the truck weight itself and the drive axle is the weight of the trailer. I will have to go and get weighed again. I was confused as well. The total was 14160 for truck and trailer. That is why I weighed the truck itself..... 5800#.

[DW-gray]

Dave3421 wrote:
What I have figured out is the truck by itself weighs 5800 prior to the fifth wheel. Once i hook up the trailer the steer weight increases to around 6400. The trailer from what I can see weighs 7800. I am confused as well. They were not helpful at flying J. So if you add 7800 for the trailer and 6400 for the truck and pin weight it should total around 14200. This is all the help I can provide.

Maybe you could use the available worksheet and Weight Safety Report at Fifth Wheel St. to assist you in knowing your weights.

[Dave3421]

What I have figured out is the truck by itself weighs 5800 prior to the fifth wheel. Once i hook up the trailer the steer weight increases to around 6400. The trailer from what I can see weighs 7800. I am confused as well. They were not helpful at flying J. So if you add 7800 for the trailer and 6400 for the truck and pin weight it should total around 14200. This is all the help I can provide.

[avvidclif1]

Dave3421 wrote:
I have a 2011 Chevy Silverado Crew cab Z71 5.3 L 3.73 towing a 2012 Forest River Hemisphere Light 24 ft dry weight 7400. Here is my issue. I know I should have bought a 3/4 ton and planning on buying one next year. I am nervous I am, over weight. I went to a cat scale and here are the basic results they gave me. Wish they were in more detail.

Truck
Steer axle: 5800

Truck/Trailer
steer axle: 6360
Drive axle: 7800
Total: 14160

My wife was not with me so I need to add her weight and my tanks were dry. Please advise.....

Dave

I would go back and try the scale again. Those numbers are nowhere close for the setup you described.

I have a F350 Diesel Crew Cab pulling a Crossroads 31' 5er.
Steer axle 5000
Drive axle 6200
Trailer axle 7800
GVW 18,200

And that's with me, DW, daughter, and 2 grandkids. Fully loaded and headed out.

[rhagfo]

Dave3421 wrote:
I have a 2011 Chevy Silverado Crew cab Z71 5.3 L 3.73 towing a 2012 Forest River Hemisphere Light 24 ft dry weight 7400. Here is my issue. I know I should have bought a 3/4 ton and planning on buying one next year. I am nervous I am, over weight. I went to a cat scale and here are the basic results they gave me. Wish they were in more detail.

Truck
Steer axle: 5800

Truck/Trailer
steer axle: 6360
Drive axle: 7800
Total: 14160

My wife was not with me so I need to add her weight and my tanks were dry. Please advise.....

Dave

What do you have in the bed of the truck??? 7,800# on the drive axle has to be a mistake, with my 5er hooked up my Ram only has 5,100# on the drive/rear axle.

[Dave3421]

I have a 2011 Chevy Silverado Crew cab Z71 5.3 L 3.73 towing a 2012 Forest River Hemisphere Light 24 ft dry weight 7400. Here is my issue. I know I should have bought a 3/4 ton and planning on buying one next year. I am nervous I am, over weight. I went to a cat scale and here are the basic results they gave me. Wish they were in more detail.

Truck
Steer axle: 5800

Truck/Trailer
steer axle: 6360
Drive axle: 7800
Total: 14160

My wife was not with me so I need to add her weight and my tanks were dry. Please advise.....

Dave

[SkiSmuggs]

After a year, I finally weighed and was heavier than I thought. We were 2/3 full on the black tank at weigh in.

Steer Axle: 3480 -280
Drive Axle: 4560 +510
Trailer Axle: 7500
Gross Combined: 15540 -1560
Pin Weight: 1660 (1410 dry)

Although it doesn't change the sticker, I had installed SuperSprings and Bilstein HD shocks. Will definitely get the HD Payload option next time, but the rig pulls and handles well. I will also empty my basement and give everything there a critical eye, plus fill the rear fresh water tank, but none of that will make up for 500 lbs over, although dumping the waste tanks will help some.

[HD_Hauler]

Volvo 420 Single Axle, 14,000 with both tanks full 😞 HR Presidential 5th Wheel Dry 12,000, Wife's stuff estimate 5,000 :R, my stuff 20:D, total weight down the road 26,000, (minus the wife stuff Jokingly)and still get 10-11 MPG.

[boernegang]

Ok got the rig weighed.

steer axle 4320 (GAWR FRT 4670)
Drive Axle 5320 (GAWR RR 6084)
Trailer Axle 9420
Gross Weight 19060 lbs. (GCWR 22,000)

Just under 1/2 tank of fuel, me and the dog (blue heeler) 1/3 water in trailer(according to the panel) and full propane tanks.

[DW-gray]

Learjet wrote:
I have a TT right now...but a 5th wheel is looking good with the new truck. Here are the actual scale weights:

2013 Ford F250 XLT, CC, 6.2, 3.73 rear , 4x2, 4/5/13

Truck with Me (250 lbs) and full fuel:
Steer axle 3,880
Drive axle 2,980
Total 6,860


Truck with ME in it, full fuel, trailer full water (water tank is between tongue and axle on trailer)

Steer axle 3,760 (max front 4,250)
Drive axle 4,060 (max rear 6,100)
Trailer axles 5,000
Gross 12,820 (GCRW 19,000)

I figured the total trailer weight is 5,960 and 960 of that is tongue weight (max is 1,250). My truck with me, full water and the trailer weights 7,820 lbs (10,000 GVWR ) Looks like 2,180 for what ever else.

Door sticker payload 3,253

Trailer 2006 KZ Frontier, 2303P-F

Your numbers look pretty good. There is a good conventional towing safety report at FWS that you can plug those number into. Also, since you're in the market for a fifth wheel, consider using the free web based app Before You Buy RV

[Learjet]

I have a TT right now...but a 5th wheel is looking good with the new truck. Here are the actual scale weights:

2013 Ford F250 XLT, CC, 6.2, 3.73 rear , 4x2, 4/5/13

Truck with Me (250 lbs) and full fuel:
Steer axle 3,880
Drive axle 2,980
Total 6,860


Truck with ME in it, full fuel, trailer full water (water tank is between tongue and axle on trailer)

Steer axle 3,760 (max front 4,250)
Drive axle 4,060 (max rear 6,100)
Trailer axles 5,000
Gross 12,820 (GCRW 19,000)

I figured the total trailer weight is 5,960 and 960 of that is tongue weight (max is 1,250). My truck with me, full water and the trailer weights 7,820 lbs (10,000 GVWR ) Looks like 2,180 for what ever else.

Door sticker payload 3,253

Trailer 2006 KZ Frontier, 2303P-F