Wiggle

[Snowbird67]

Yep you read that right,, wiggle..we just got into our new big fifth wheel and find that it wiggles alot more than our little one did.. It has the 6 pt leveling system, but the back has the slide outs..so wondering if all of you owners have any ideas on how to get some of that out.. we tried extra jacks under that back, but that didnt help.. we are open to suggestions that have worked for you.. thank you..

[pcm1959]

We have the SteadyFast system on our 38' Lifestyle. It is a great system and only 3 quick, easy knobs to turn to deploy.
It does not remove 100% of the movement in the rear but in the front is just about does. I think you'd be pleased with the results.

[N-Trouble]

shadows4 wrote:
I have the BAL Lok Arm stabilizers that are similar to the JT's. They work ok but are a pain to set up. I have six of them so that is six times I have to bend over and tighten a bolt. I have a friend who has a Steady Fast system on his 5er. I think if I ever trade trailers that is what I will go with next time. Good luck, John

I installed the Steadyfast on my 5er a few months ago and have been really happy with it. Three large handles to lock/unlock and your done.

[Uppercrust]

I am very sensitive to movement also, especially in a camper. We have the JT strong arms and it has helped a lot.

[shadows4]

I have the BAL Lok Arm stabilizers that are similar to the JT's. They work ok but are a pain to set up. I have six of them so that is six times I have to bend over and tighten a bolt. I have a friend who has a Steady Fast system on his 5er. I think if I ever trade trailers that is what I will go with next time. Good luck, John

[Snowbird67]

for those of you who actually gave me some ideas.. I thank you..we will look into the JT strongholds.. I read where they work with the 6 pt system.. I am one of those people extreme sensitivity to movement.. so appreciate what was said.. those of you who decided it was just a time to be a smart aleck.. go someplace else to do that.. I was asking an honest question, and was really hoping to get honest caring answers.. thank you to those that did just that.

[RustyJC]

Arcamper wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I thought the main selling point behind the 6 point leveling system is that they don't have "wiggle" because the unit is supported all the way around, and not sitting on the tires. Is it possible to raise the unit more and get more weight on the supports and less weight on the tires?

Raising the unit more may help some plus still using chocks between the tires. I have noticed that after I auto level sometimes we have a very slight wiggle. If I raise the whole camper up some and add the x chocks it's about as stable as you can get.

That's an excellent point. If the tires are still providing most of the support on the low side, then the "spring" in the tires would certainly allow some movement. Having said that, I think frame rigidity and the associated rigidity of the 6-point jack mounts enters into the equation as well as I haven't noticed any wiggle or sway with our LevelUp 6 point system as installed on our Mobile Suites.

Rusty

[fj12ryder]

Arcamper wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I thought the main selling point behind the 6 point leveling system is that they don't have "wiggle" because the unit is supported all the way around, and not sitting on the tires. Is it possible to raise the unit more and get more weight on the supports and less weight on the tires?

Raising the unit more may help some plus still using chocks between the tires. I have noticed that after I auto level sometimes we have a very slight wiggle. If I raise the whole camper up some and add the x chocks it's about as stable as you can get.

That makes sense. To me the idea that I'd spend several thousand dollars for a system that still requires me to use front and rear stabilizers, and something like the JT Strongarm and/or pin tripods is simply unbelievable.

[Arcamper]

fj12ryder wrote:
I thought the main selling point behind the 6 point leveling system is that they don't have "wiggle" because the unit is supported all the way around, and not sitting on the tires. Is it possible to raise the unit more and get more weight on the supports and less weight on the tires?

Raising the unit more may help some plus still using chocks between the tires. I have noticed that after I auto level sometimes we have a very slight wiggle. If I raise the whole camper up some and add the x chocks it's about as stable as you can get.

[2oldman]

bid_time wrote:
Just keep throwing money at it for various "fixes" until you decide you've burned threw enough money and can just live with it.

x2

[Traveler_II]

Another solution Is "Plug It Right Stabilizers". You can contact them directly for information or questions, great people. They offer a FULL 4 YEAR WARRANTY

http://www.plugitright.com/5thwheelREDO.html

[N-Trouble]

Landroamer1 wrote:
A set of JT Strongarms or Steadyfast should help

^^THIS^^

There seems to be a misconception about leveling systems. A leveling system does just that, but is not intended to remove sway. To remove sway you have to triangulate the stabilizers to the frame of the trailer which is what the JTs or SF does.

[fj12ryder]

the bear II wrote:
Our 5th wheel has two 12 inch I-beams as the main part of the frame. With such large I-beams I was surprised at how much give there is. I decided the I-beams must be made from a bunch of remelted foreign import cars.

The JT Strong arms seem to help based on what I've read. I don't have them but I do use a homemade Tripod on the kingpin. I fabricated it out of square tubing and some other parts I had laying around. It makes the front half of the 5th wheel solid as a rock. The stabilizer jacks at the rear help make the rear less bouncy....But we still get some bounce in the mid-section from the suspension. We have learned to live with it.

You have to do all that in addition to the 6 point leveling system? Seems like a lot of money to spend when it still requires that kind of stabilization.

[goducks10]

Landroamer1 wrote:
A set of JT Strongarms or Steadyfast should help

x2

[fj12ryder]

I thought the main selling point behind the 6 point leveling system is that they don't have "wiggle" because the unit is supported all the way around, and not sitting on the tires. Is it possible to raise the unit more and get more weight on the supports and less weight on the tires?

[the_bear_II]

Our 5th wheel has two 12 inch I-beams as the main part of the frame. With such large I-beams I was surprised at how much give there is. I decided the I-beams must be made from a bunch of remelted foreign import cars.

The JT Strong arms seem to help based on what I've read. I don't have them but I do use a homemade Tripod on the kingpin. I fabricated it out of square tubing and some other parts I had laying around. It makes the front half of the 5th wheel solid as a rock. The stabilizer jacks at the rear help make the rear less bouncy....But we still get some bounce in the mid-section from the suspension. We have learned to live with it.