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Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
While researching these pages for my next Motor Home I saw a few threads discussing Rentals, most were Pros and Cons but very few posts from people who had purchased one.

I thought it may be a good resource and helpful to hear from these people. The good, the bad, what they liked and what they didnโ€™t. Also if they had any problems, things they changed, if they would recommend this to others or do it again.

Here is my story: I am not a novice, having owned a Class A for more than 15 years and doing the camping thing with my wife and two daughters, I can say โ€œbeen there done thatโ€ But life changes, and I sold everything so I have been away from this for several years. Starting over I lurked here for a while and got a lot of good insight then went looking.

My criteria was: A Class C within by budget, less than 30 feet so I can keep it at home, saving storage $, a rear bed, and a lot of storage space.

What fit that was Winnebago, Fleetwood and a few others, what I found mostly was Jamboree / Tioga 26Q. In the year models 2002 thru 2006. I did my home work looking at NADA and other sites to find the fair prices for the models that I was looking for.

After several months of searching the internet, Craigslist, private ads and Dealerships for a Class C that suited my budget and needs, this is what I found. Of the dozen or so I inquired about.Most were upsidedown in their payments, owing more than they were worth. All were on Ford Chassis, 7 needed tires, all had the original 7 to 10 year old tires, and they all needed repair of the awning and most needed some work inside or out and the maintenance records were sketchy, but most had low mileage. The Dealerships offerings were better but they had a profit margin to maintain so I got older models within my budget or huge up sales that didnโ€™t work for me.

My next step was looking at the rental market for sales. In my area there are 2 large companies that have rental sales, Cruise America and El Monte RV,who also sell Class A RVs.

First up was El Monte RV Their units are production RVs that are made by major manufactures, with TV antennas and hookups inside and out, Ducted A/C and heat, 2 house batteries, a rear ladder and parts are readily available from those manufactureโ€™s. I looked at their web site and it detailed their warranty and what was checked and serviced by their factory trained technicians. The unit I looked at was like new inside, the upholstery on all the seats was new as was the floor mat in the driverโ€™s area, it had a new mattress, still in plastic and a new bedspread. All of the curtains were new also. Newer (2010 mfg date) tires with 98% rubber and the mileage was ninety thousand (90,000).

Then there was Cruise America: Their units that I looked at seemed to be Spartan,no TV antenna or hookups for one,non-ducted A/C,small counter space and only one battery, no rear ladder for inspection and maintenance of roof and built just for them, they were all โ€œrefreshedโ€ their words not mine. They offered extended warranties at a huge cost. All had high mileage, one hundred and thirty thousand (130,000) or more and the price range seemed a little high. The sales staff had a take it or leave it attitude and were not very forthcoming when asked about maintenance records and service,they claim to have proprietary info in those records,It doesn't seem to be a problem for El Monte RV.

At El Monte RV I took a test ride; This Unit was a 2006 Tioga 26Q on a Chevrolet Chassis it rode
Drove and handled much better than the Fords that I had driven. It also had more leg room and was quieter. We got back and I asked about the service and maintenance on it, the salesman, Joey, handed me a 28 page single spaced document asked if I wanted some coffee or something to drink and said โ€œread this and if you have any questions I will answer themโ€.

It detailed everything that was done before and after each rental, the mileage, generator hours and hours billed. Each time it was washed and detailed inside and outside, all fluids were checked and replenished if needed, the holding tanks were washed, LP system was checked for leaks, all torque on wheel lugs were checked, brakes front and rear checked for wear and cracks, pressure in tires, all appliances, generator oil, lights inside and outside, the list goes on and on.

It also listed all oil changes,coolant change,trans service,fuel injector service and cleaning,fuel filters,air filter, new brakes, all repairs and replacements all with date, mileage and time spent in complete detail from day one to when it was pulled from the rental fleet and was refurbished. I have a complete service record on this vehicle.Also the service records on the Onan Generator,all oil changes,air filter and spark plug replacement with hours and date. I negotiated a good deal with them and am very happy with my purchase.

It came with a 1 yr. 12000 mile power train warranty and 30 day on all appliances. It also came with a 28 page maintenance record that detailed everything. Also the original sales packet from Fleetwood with the manual and serial numbers on all appliances,refrigerator, microwave,furnace, AC, water heater, etc. and the manual for the Chassis. I have had no problems with it so far.

(ON EDIT) 5 Years and close to 14000 miles.Just Scheduled Maintenance and new tires,old ones were at the 5 year mark and I wanted new Michelin LTX M/S2s.

There were a few things that it didnโ€™t have as it was a rental and the ones from private parties did have.
โ€ข Power steps, outside Stereo/CD donโ€™t need or want them.
โ€ข An Awning, this I wanted and had installed. A Swivel Seat and a new Window in The Door that I installed.
โ€ข Wheel Simulators, I like the looks so I had them installed and at the same time had Tire Man valve stem kit put on.
โ€ข Replaced the Chinese WFCO with a US Made converter/charger
โ€ข It came with mini blinds and not the day/night that most have, these are more practical and have a lot less failure.
  • It also came with Stainless Steel sinks,easier to maintain than the cheap plastic ones that come in the noncommercial units.

I am very happy with my Rig, it suites my needs and it was in my Budget range, I think I got a good deal.

So if you bought a rental please share your experience here for others to use as a resource.
Or if there are any other questions that have not been covered in these pages, just ask, there are many helpful people on this thread.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C
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bjones3211
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Explorer
We bought our 2014 freedom Elite 31L a year and a half ago it was a Camping world fleet rental but it looked like they keep it up nice and it runs like a champ. I have put over 7000 miles and only had 1 problem and that was the tail lights which I found on the web that where a bad design so I changed them out, they kelp filling up with water and corroding the bulbs and the water was getting into the walls.
Some of the things I did to make it more to our liking was
1. Added sliding shelves in the pantry.
2. A larger TV in the bedroom
3. A larger monitor for the backup camera.
4. Added some 360 holding tank ventures.
5. Added 2 Fantastic vent covers
6. Changed out the sofa bed for a recliner sofa
I have a question for someone that may know the manual says to use a lite oil one the slide-outs but it does not show where you put it. All the rollers are in closed.

socal77
Explorer II
Explorer II
Taking our 2009 28A on her first trip with us tomorrow. Spending 3 days at the State Park in Malibu. Nice trip to get our feet wet with the RV. About 120 mile drive each way. Dry camping so will get to give the systems a workout.

Will be nice to escape the 100 degree + heat we've had for a couple weeks. Malibu forecast in the 70's!

path1
Explorer
Explorer
I've got a 5.4 in 09 Majestic 23 P. They don't make it anymore. Perfect size IMO. Anyways it has the smaller V-8 Triton motor and I'm always on gas pedal and get about same MPG as the V-10 people. And go about the same speed. But remember I'm always on it. I would go for V-10 if it were me, if other things being equal. Does 450 have bigger brakes? more CCC? stronger suspension?

Wait till you hook up your toad if you think power is question now.

Little 5.4 does great job and leaves driveway at 11,380 pounds. But on the MTN grades I can hear it saying "I wish I could, I wish I could":) ๐Ÿ™‚

I'm very happy with the 5.4 but it is not a ball of fire.
2003 Majestic 23P... Northwest travel machine
2013 Arctic Fox 25W... Wife "doll house" for longer snowbird trips
2001 "The Mighty Dodge"... tow vehicle for "doll house"

Mich_F
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Explorer
Claybe wrote:
Mich F wrote:
I'd suggest going with the smaller/shorter RV, if the size will work for you. The smaller one you can pretty much go anywhere a crew cab long bed dually can go (other than the height difference), not so much with the longer one.


Majestic makes the shorter version with a V10 E450. My friend has one. Don't know if it is a different model than mine which has the V8 E350???


I had a 1997 Coachmen 24'(it hadn't been a rental) with a V10 E350. I averaged just over 10 mpg in the 5 years or so I had it. I thought it was a great combination.
2014 Itasca Spirit 31K Class C
2016 Mazda CX5 on Acme tow dolly- 4 trips ~ 5,800 mi
Now 2017 RWD F150 with a drive shaft disconnect

Claybe
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Mich F wrote:
I'd suggest going with the smaller/shorter RV, if the size will work for you. The smaller one you can pretty much go anywhere a crew cab long bed dually can go (other than the height difference), not so much with the longer one.


Majestic makes the shorter version with a V10 E450. My friend has one. Don't know if it is a different model than mine which has the V8 E350???

Mich_F
Explorer
Explorer
I'd suggest going with the smaller/shorter RV, if the size will work for you. The smaller one you can pretty much go anywhere a crew cab long bed dually can go (other than the height difference), not so much with the longer one.
2014 Itasca Spirit 31K Class C
2016 Mazda CX5 on Acme tow dolly- 4 trips ~ 5,800 mi
Now 2017 RWD F150 with a drive shaft disconnect

MtnBikeMarty
Explorer II
Explorer II
Mocoondo wrote:
MtnBikeMarty wrote:
My bad typo... the 23A is a V8/E350 (and the 28A is V10 / E450).

The 28A we rented in Mesa AZ, drove up though Flagstaff and on to Moab UT, over to Bryce and Kanab UT, then back to Phx, I averaged 9.5mpg for the whole trip, and like I stated before, we did well up the mountains to Flagstaff at 55+ and maybe 50-55mph on the steepest sections.

I was just wondering if the smaller/lighter 23A (with V8) would handle the mountains the same or so, as the larger/heavier 28A (V10) did. I want to buy one before the 6 month grace rental fee period expires to apply towards the sale price, and I keep flip flopping from the 23A to the 28A and back, I can't decide...lol.


How many people in total would normally be traveling?


Only 2 the majority of the time.

Mocoondo
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Explorer II
MtnBikeMarty wrote:
My bad typo... the 23A is a V8/E350 (and the 28A is V10 / E450).

The 28A we rented in Mesa AZ, drove up though Flagstaff and on to Moab UT, over to Bryce and Kanab UT, then back to Phx, I averaged 9.5mpg for the whole trip, and like I stated before, we did well up the mountains to Flagstaff at 55+ and maybe 50-55mph on the steepest sections.

I was just wondering if the smaller/lighter 23A (with V8) would handle the mountains the same or so, as the larger/heavier 28A (V10) did. I want to buy one before the 6 month grace rental fee period expires to apply towards the sale price, and I keep flip flopping from the 23A to the 28A and back, I can't decide...lol.


How many people in total would normally be traveling?

MtnBikeMarty
Explorer II
Explorer II
My bad typo... the 23A is a V8/E350 (and the 28A is V10 / E450).

The 28A we rented in Mesa AZ, drove up though Flagstaff and on to Moab UT, over to Bryce and Kanab UT, then back to Phx, I averaged 9.5mpg for the whole trip, and like I stated before, we did well up the mountains to Flagstaff at 55+ and maybe 50-55mph on the steepest sections.

I was just wondering if the smaller/lighter 23A (with V8) would handle the mountains the same or so, as the larger/heavier 28A (V10) did. I want to buy one before the 6 month grace rental fee period expires to apply towards the sale price, and I keep flip flopping from the 23A to the 28A and back, I can't decide...lol.

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Snowman9000 wrote:
What it really depends on is, did both of you start with a full tank?

Claybe wrote:


I have the 23A V8 on the E350 chassis. My buddy has the exact same length Majestic as I do but with the V10 on a E450 chassis (sorry don't know his model number). We camp in Colorado mountains all the time.We both left his house at the same time with full tanks of gas. We pulled over 4 hours later to fuel up at the same time and he put in 17 more gallons than I did and I am pretty sure we have the same size tanks.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

Snowman9000
Explorer
Explorer
What it really depends on is, did both of you start with a full tank?
Currently RV-less but not done yet.

Mocoondo
Explorer II
Explorer II
Claybe wrote:

On the last trip I put in 46 gallons on one stop and it was still reading about a 1/4 tank full. So I know I have a tank greater than 35 gallons and at least 50. So if he still put 12 more gallons in than I did I say that's awesome savings for me :C


Your tank is 55 gallons.

Claybe
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Explorer
Mich F wrote:
Claybe wrote:


We pulled over 4 hours later to fuel up at the same time and he put in 17 more gallons than I did and I am pretty sure we have the same size tanks.


Not necessarily, you might have a 35 gal. tank, while your friend has a 55 gal. tank.


On the last trip I put in 46 gallons on one stop and it was still reading about a 1/4 tank full. So I know I have a tank greater than 35 gallons and at least 50. So if he still put 12 more gallons in than I did I say that's awesome savings for me :C

Mich_F
Explorer
Explorer
Claybe wrote:


We pulled over 4 hours later to fuel up at the same time and he put in 17 more gallons than I did and I am pretty sure we have the same size tanks.


Not necessarily, you might have a 35 gal. tank, while your friend has a 55 gal. tank.
2014 Itasca Spirit 31K Class C
2016 Mazda CX5 on Acme tow dolly- 4 trips ~ 5,800 mi
Now 2017 RWD F150 with a drive shaft disconnect

Claybe
Explorer
Explorer
Mocoondo wrote:
samven1 wrote:
I am almost sure the 23A has the V10 unless they changed things the 22E has the V10 on the 350 chassis.


I can promise you the 23A is a V8 on the E350 chassis. The 28A is the V10 on the E450.


I have the 23A V8 on the E350 chassis. My buddy has the exact same length Majestic as I do but with the V10 on a E450 chassis (sorry don't know his model number). We camp in Colorado mountains all the time. We both left his house at the same time with full tanks of gas. We pulled over 4 hours later to fuel up at the same time and he put in 17 more gallons than I did and I am pretty sure we have the same size tanks. I kept up (barely - he lost me on the real big mountains but I caught up). It is slow going on some of the passes and people get pissy but not my problem I can only do what my machine lets me. Going up one pass it bogged down to 30 mph in first gear at 4500 RPMs. That was a mountain pass not a highway. I say go with what you are comfortable with. Mine works GREAT for me!