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Ford Transit vs Nissan NV--comparison

coolmom42
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Had a couple of hours free near a couple of dealers that had the Nissan NV & Ford Transit high-tops in stock. Did some looking and made a few photos. These are the high points:

Ford PROS:

*more headroom, about 3-4" more

*option for heavy-duty alternator & 2nd battery; compartment available for battery placement

*LED lights at front & rear of cargo area

*available in a long wheel base that adds 23 linear inches to the cargo area

*overall excellent fit/finish, lots of cup holders & storage bins in front, plus overhead storage bin

*6 speed automatic with option for switching to manual shifting

*nicely finished cargo area: heavy tough mat with cushion underneath; wiring chase with snap-over cover running from front driver's side, across the rear, and blanked off at the passenger side above rear door; side panels and wheel wells covered up to about 5' high with tough black plastic

*jack stored under passenger seat, does not take up space in cargo area

*full-size spare is underneath but has a crank-down holder---not sure how this works---there is a recessed handle inside the rear doors that the jack handle turns

*nice tall rear windows--good visibility when backing up

*good back-up camera with white lines marking your reverse path, VERY helpful if you suck at backing like I do

*excellent long-arm big side mirrors with convex lower areas, mirrors fold in, power option available.

*what appears to be good sound/heat barriers on the firewall.

*2X 12 V outlets in front

*8 D-ring tie-downs

*van is very quiet to drive and handles nicely. A substantial size vehicle for sure, but handling is surprisingly good. I did a short test drive and was pleased with acceleration/handling on the V6 Eco-boost.

FORD CONS:

*Sticker price on the 2015 regular wheel base high-roof Ford, with a few options, was about $40K.

*comes with Hankook tires; should be Michelins at this price point!

*high step-in---I'm 5'11" and would need a step or running board--running boards are not standard

*the battery is located under the driver's seat in a compartment that is not easily accessible, but visible when the driver's seat is pushed fully forward. Salesman was not sure what would be required to fully access/change the battery. This is where the second battery compartment is as well. There is a jumper point easily accessible under the hood.

*The engine compartment is relatively small, and very tight on space. The access for fluid fills/checks is good, and the main fuse box is up top. But those who do their own mechanical work might find access pretty difficult.

NISSAN NV PROS:

*about $5000 less than a comparably equipped Ford

*large locking console standard between the front seats, lots of overhead storage

*4 overhead lights in cargo bay

*built-in inverter and rear 120 V outlet

*slightly lower step-in than Ford

*engine compartment fully out front---sized & arranged like a full-size pickup

*touts the largest brake rotors available on a cargo van

*passenger seat folds down flat---it struck me that a person could fold this down and use the seat back as one end of a bed support, for a bed oriented front-back, utilizing all the cab cubbies and storage for a "night table" and about 3 linear feet of space.

*good side mirrors comparable to Ford's

*pre-tapped screw holes all along the cargo area sides about 4' high

NISSAN CONS:

*large center console blocks easy access to the back from front seats

*no chase for wiring to the back, it just hangs out there

*only 6 D-ring tie downs

*cargo area mat did not fit well and rippled by the side door

*120 V outlet is only 400 watts, rendering it useless for anything over 3 amps

*cargo area liner is flimsy cargo---very floppy and does not fit well--only goes up about 4' on the wall

*rear windows are short, reducing visibility

I was not able to get many of my technical questions answered about the Nissan, thanks to a lazy salesman. I did not have time for a test drive, no one seemed interested in offering me one anyway.

The Nissan dealer did not offer me any literature but most of the dimensions are available online.


OVERALL: The Ford would be my choice, due to its far superior fit/finish, taller headroom, and what appears to me to be overall better engineering. The only thing that gives me pause about the Ford is the battery compartment under the seat.

The Transits have been sold and used in Europe since 1965, and are the best-selling light cargo vehicle in Europe. My understanding is that US versions have a different transmission but the same engine used in the F-150 V6 Ecoboost.

Transits are made in Kansas City, Nissans are made in Canton, MS.

I'm thinking in about 3 years there should be some reasonably priced used Transits available, which should reduce the sticker shock somewhat.
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board
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Davydd
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coolmom42 wrote:
Davydd wrote:
Home Skillet wrote:
Transit wins comparison test

I noticed the comparison was with 2500 series vans. No one in North America is offering 2500 series Sprinters in Class B conversions other than maybe the 144" wheelbase model. Are they building 3500 Transit vans yet? It seems strange no one has proposed a Class B model.


The Ford website lists a 350 HD with GVWR of 10,360 and payload of 4650 lb. But I have not seen any in inventory at dealers in this area. My guess is that if there are any in production yet, they are going directly to fleet sales.

FORD SPECS

I see that. I'm kind of wondering. The Transit to me seems a lot closer in spec and size to the older model pre-2007 Sprinter that converters were building on the 2500 chassis. If they could pull it off it might be attractive not being a dually. The current Sprinter had to go to 3500. Then on the other hand, the market is looking for heavier Bs in multiple batteries, bigger tank capacities, solar, granite countertops, etc.
Davydd
2021 Advanced RV 144 WB 2500 Class B
2015 Advanced RV Ocean One Class B

bobojay5
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SkiMore wrote:
coolmom42 wrote:
rexlion wrote:
Are you going to look at the Ram Promaster and add that to your comparison?


Nope. I'm not a fan of Dodge products. If someone gave me one, I would immediately sell it.


Isn't the promaster more of a Fiat product than a Dodge product?


Originally a Fiat design, but for us, built in Mexico at a brand new plant with a Chrysler engine/trans combo for the gas model. Same engine, (co-developed by Mercedes), that's used in almost all current Chrysler products. All Fiat for the diesel model.
Bob & Sharon
Eastern Kansas
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Class B Van

SkiMore
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coolmom42 wrote:
rexlion wrote:
Are you going to look at the Ram Promaster and add that to your comparison?


Nope. I'm not a fan of Dodge products. If someone gave me one, I would immediately sell it.


Isn't the promaster more of a Fiat product than a Dodge product?

bobojay5
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Ford is still having a lot of production hiccups with the Transit. Parts shortages and shipping issues seem to be the current problems. Also they just recently had a stop sale/shipping order for a few days because of a front brake production line engineering glitch.
At least that's what is floating around on the Ford forums....
Bob & Sharon
Eastern Kansas
2013 Winnebago ERA 70A
Class B Van

coolmom42
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Davydd wrote:
Home Skillet wrote:
Transit wins comparison test

I noticed the comparison was with 2500 series vans. No one in North America is offering 2500 series Sprinters in Class B conversions other than maybe the 144" wheelbase model. Are they building 3500 Transit vans yet? It seems strange no one has proposed a Class B model.


The Ford website lists a 350 HD with GVWR of 10,360 and payload of 4650 lb. But I have not seen any in inventory at dealers in this area. My guess is that if there are any in production yet, they are going directly to fleet sales.

FORD SPECS
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board

Davydd
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Home Skillet wrote:
Transit wins comparison test

I noticed the comparison was with 2500 series vans. No one in North America is offering 2500 series Sprinters in Class B conversions other than maybe the 144" wheelbase model. Are they building 3500 Transit vans yet? It seems strange no one has proposed a Class B model.
Davydd
2021 Advanced RV 144 WB 2500 Class B
2015 Advanced RV Ocean One Class B

coolmom42
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mumkin wrote:
Not quite...

The Nissan NV200 is the size of the Ford Transit... and is a rather attractive little van that looks nothing like its ugly big brother.

Nissan NV200


The Nissan NV is the same size as the Ford Transit Connect not the same as the full-size Ford Transit.
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board

mumkin
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Not quite...

The Nissan NV200 is the size of the Ford Transit... and is a rather attractive little van that looks nothing like its ugly big brother.

Nissan NV200
Mumkin
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Home_Skillet
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Transit wins comparison test
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bobojay5
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Look at the wheel/tire combo on the Ram Promaster if you want to see small
Bob & Sharon
Eastern Kansas
2013 Winnebago ERA 70A
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coolmom42
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timmac wrote:
coolmom42 wrote:


*Sticker price on the 2015 regular wheel base high-roof Ford, with a few options, was about $40K.

*comes with Hankook tires; should be Michelins at this price point!

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Just to let you know I think Hankooks are very good quality tires, less cost the Michelins but might be better. :B


Good to know, LOL.

I was pretty surprised to only see 16" wheels. They look kind of dinky on that size vehicle.
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board

coolmom42
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mlts22 wrote:
A local RT dealership has had a NV upfit on their lot for at least a year, if now more... no takers.

The Transit has one nice advantage... it is offered in a high top version, about 10 inches higher than the Sprinter in the US. I've thought of using this with a false floor (although it would take another step to get fully in the van) for adding a hydronic system and extra water tank space. Or use the extra ceiling room for a drop-down bed and more overhead space.


I was in the high top version. At 5'10" plus 1" for shoes, I had about 4" clearance below the roof ribs. Do think about the tallest person that will be using it.

The high roof is the prime draw of the Transit for me.
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board

Davydd
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mlts22 wrote:
A local RT dealership has had a NV upfit on their lot for at least a year, if now more... no takers.

The Transit has one nice advantage... it is offered in a high top version, about 10 inches higher than the Sprinter in the US. I've thought of using this with a false floor (although it would take another step to get fully in the van) for adding a hydronic system and extra water tank space. Or use the extra ceiling room for a drop-down bed and more overhead space.

I know you have said this before but I was confused since the overall heights were not much different. In fact the Transit (110.1 inches) is not as tall overall as the Sprinter (111 inches). The difference inside is the Transit maximum cargo height is 81.5 inches and the Sprinter is 78.2 inches. That is a difference of 3.3 inches. Since the finish interior heights of most Sprinter conversions are 75 inches I think they are quoting heights extending to the metal roof surface and not the structural ribs. Without measuring the rib depths and comparing I am not sure what the finish dimensions would turn out for the Transit. Nobody has built one yet. Logic should say the Transit should still be a little taller inside and that would make tall guys happy.

The 2015 Sprinter has a new super high roof that is even taller with an interior standing height of 84 inches but its design is such it could not support any loads or equipment so probably would not be functional for an RV.
Davydd
2021 Advanced RV 144 WB 2500 Class B
2015 Advanced RV Ocean One Class B

timmac
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coolmom42 wrote:


*Sticker price on the 2015 regular wheel base high-roof Ford, with a few options, was about $40K.

*comes with Hankook tires; should be Michelins at this price point!

.


Just to let you know I think Hankooks are very good quality tires, less cost the Michelins but might be better. :B