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Help with entry door lock

Wayne67vert
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I recently purchased a 2003 Newmar Scottsdale.
The entry door dead bolt doesn't work properly from the inside and I have no key to unlock it from the outside.
I spoke with Newmar and they want $474.00 for a replacement. This is crazy money!!
I spoke with PTL engineering that makes locks for Newmar and they say it isn't one of theirs.
Does anyone know who else makes locks for Newmar?
Thanks,
Wayne
2002 Holiday Rambler Atlantis 24 ft, 67 Mustang convertible, 38 Chevy farm truck
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Jim
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D.E.Bishop wrote:
Jim@HiTek wrote:
Took mine apart and found that the house lock just had a small diameter circular spring that had broken. Like you, didn't have the key for the deadbolt when I bought the rig so took the entire lock assembly to a locksmith and had them cut me a key for the dead bolt.

They didn't have the spring, so I zip tied the house lock unlocked while I tried to find that spring. Used only the dead bolt for several months. Finally found the spring at an Ace Hardware.

My old Bounder, and my newer Winnie have the same lock assembly, this is a picture of the Winnie. This rig was also missing the dead bolt key when I bought it. And the house lock has a tendency to lock itself.

House Lock...

Because of that tendency, I've just zip tied the lock and will only use the deadbolt from here on. Just my idea on how to work around the problems many of these locks have...


Jim, I'm sure that you are aware that if your Winnie's doorlock is the original lock, that Winnebagoind.com has the TriMark key code on file for your locks. There are a lot of parts dealers and TriMark that have repair kits and parts for sale.

It maybe more expensive than Ace but then again it is faster and you get the exact parts. Sometimes there are unintended consequences when using the almost right part.


I'm aware, it's just that I'm down in Mexico. I'm waiting on a locksmith to show up.
Jim@HiTek
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D_E_Bishop
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Wayne, I believe that TriMark has the key codes on the inside of the lock assembly. It is only accessible by removing the lockset from the inside but it is in there.

By the way, a photo of the lock included in the original post would have given you a lot more information almost immediately. Complete descriptions are helpful.
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D_E_Bishop
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Jim@HiTek wrote:
Took mine apart and found that the house lock just had a small diameter circular spring that had broken. Like you, didn't have the key for the deadbolt when I bought the rig so took the entire lock assembly to a locksmith and had them cut me a key for the dead bolt.

They didn't have the spring, so I zip tied the house lock unlocked while I tried to find that spring. Used only the dead bolt for several months. Finally found the spring at an Ace Hardware.

My old Bounder, and my newer Winnie have the same lock assembly, this is a picture of the Winnie. This rig was also missing the dead bolt key when I bought it. And the house lock has a tendency to lock itself.

House Lock...

Because of that tendency, I've just zip tied the lock and will only use the deadbolt from here on. Just my idea on how to work around the problems many of these locks have...


Jim, I'm sure that you are aware that if your Winnie's doorlock is the original lock, that Winnebagoind.com has the TriMark key code on file for your locks. There are a lot of parts dealers and TriMark that have repair kits and parts for sale.

It maybe more expensive than Ace but then again it is faster and you get the exact parts. Sometimes there are unintended consequences when using the almost right part.
"I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel's sake. The great affair is to go". R. L. Stevenson

David Bishop
2002 Winnebago Adventurer 32V
2009 GMC Canyon
Roadmaster 5000
BrakeBuddy Classic II

Jim
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Explorer
Took mine apart and found that the house lock just had a small diameter circular spring that had broken. Like you, didn't have the key for the deadbolt when I bought the rig so took the entire lock assembly to a locksmith and had them cut me a key for the dead bolt.

They didn't have the spring, so I zip tied the house lock unlocked while I tried to find that spring. Used only the dead bolt for several months. Finally found the spring at an Ace Hardware.

My old Bounder, and my newer Winnie have the same lock assembly, this is a picture of the Winnie. This rig was also missing the dead bolt key when I bought it. And the house lock has a tendency to lock itself.

House Lock...

Because of that tendency, I've just zip tied the lock and will only use the deadbolt from here on. Just my idea on how to work around the problems many of these locks have...
Jim@HiTek
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crasster
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Really you need to just search around for a general lock that will fit it. Look on Ebay and out of China too (Ebay). You may have to do a little grinding on the dead bolt throw. Should not be real hard.

I can't believe some places charge so much for something as simple as a lock.
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Dick_B
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Have you heard about lock `bumping'? If not, do a Google search to see if that technique will be appropriate for you to get the deadbolt working from the outside. Apparently, this is a favorite technique of locksmiths who often have to get into a lock without a key.
Of course, there is always the locksmith option.
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Wayne67vert
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I found that Tri/mark is the company. I ordered a new entry combo lock set for less than $160.

Thanks for the help
Wayne
2002 Holiday Rambler Atlantis 24 ft, 67 Mustang convertible, 38 Chevy farm truck

wallynm
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I had trouble several years ago and you may want to read this thread. I only paid $169.00.

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Dutch_12078
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Any locksmith worthy of the name can hand fit a key to the lock. And probably figure out what needs fixing/replacing on the inside as well. If it has a standard residential style deadbolt though, like our Landau, then replacing it with one from Home Depot, etc., would likely be cheaper.
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dougrainer
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PTL makes the complete door and PTL lock OPEN system. This is not the deadbolt on the PTL doors. The Deadbolt on Newmar and Tiffin doors is similar for that style door. Is your Scottsdale a mid entry door or is the door up front by the Passenger seat. My recollection of the Scottsdales was they were Gas models and had mid entry doors. Usually that means you may be able to use a standard Deadbolt, UNLESS the bolt is ROUND. Is the throw bolt ROUND? Is the Deadbolt part of the large Black door lock handle. IF SO, then Trimark is the likely brand. Doug

http://www.trimarkcorp.com/en/zPlatform.aspx?platformid=22&categoryid=89

fourmat
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Trimark possibly
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fourmat
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Trimark possibly
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lj2654
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Schlage possibly?
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