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Bruce Brown wrote:soren wrote:
You have nothing more, or less than a chassis that has been operated in conditions where it was exposed to "brine", which is the anti-icing liquid used by many states in the northern part of the country. Brine is extraordinarily corrosive, and can do this damage in one exposure. The "damage" is cosmetic, prevalent on most newer vehicles exposed to brine treated roads, and is something that many, many RVs experience and pay no attention to. If you want to address the issue, research "Fluid Film". It is made specifically to treat and prevent chassis rust on vehicles. There are customer reports, with pics. on their site, of older vehicles, like Jeep Wranglers, that are operated all winter in northern salt and brine obsessed states. Most of these older untreated vehicles are rot heaps, but using fluid film regularly can keep them looking new underneath.
Good luck, and relax. The coach builder has nothing to so with this, and in our litigation happy country, destroying vehicles with brine, and billions of pounds of salt, is secondary to avoiding lawsuits by texting twits in SUVS. These twits don't do personal responsibility and believe that every road should be clear and provide safe traction 24/7/365, no matter how bad the weather is. Naturally, when they crash, it's somebody else's fault. So the toxic waste (brine and salt) spreading starts well before the weather even hits.
The question of safety and damage to the components underneath would leave any truck mechanic in the north laughing. On a scale of 1-100, with 100 being "sorry, but your frame rotted in half, and the rig is a total loss", you aren't even hitting a one yet. Wire brush whatever bothers you, soak the whole thing in fluid film, and see if you need to reapply the stuff, a year or two from now.
^^^ This.
Living in the northeast this is nothing. Keep it out of the brine and it won't get any worse.
We've ordered (3) new motorhomes, on all (3) we've made 100% sure there would be a 0% chance they'd be delivered when there was any chance of salt and/or brine.
We also don't schedule any trips when there is a chance of salt and/or brine usage. We also keep ours in a heated garage all winter.
RustyNewmar, ours is pristine with no rust. I'd be willing to help you out and trade with you. I'll take my chances on yours. :W
Jun-02-2018 07:17 PM
soren wrote:
You have nothing more, or less than a chassis that has been operated in conditions where it was exposed to "brine", which is the anti-icing liquid used by many states in the northern part of the country. Brine is extraordinarily corrosive, and can do this damage in one exposure. The "damage" is cosmetic, prevalent on most newer vehicles exposed to brine treated roads, and is something that many, many RVs experience and pay no attention to. If you want to address the issue, research "Fluid Film". It is made specifically to treat and prevent chassis rust on vehicles. There are customer reports, with pics. on their site, of older vehicles, like Jeep Wranglers, that are operated all winter in northern salt and brine obsessed states. Most of these older untreated vehicles are rot heaps, but using fluid film regularly can keep them looking new underneath.
Good luck, and relax. The coach builder has nothing to so with this, and in our litigation happy country, destroying vehicles with brine, and billions of pounds of salt, is secondary to avoiding lawsuits by texting twits in SUVS. These twits don't do personal responsibility and believe that every road should be clear and provide safe traction 24/7/365, no matter how bad the weather is. Naturally, when they crash, it's somebody else's fault. So the toxic waste (brine and salt) spreading starts well before the weather even hits.
The question of safety and damage to the components underneath would leave any truck mechanic in the north laughing. On a scale of 1-100, with 100 being "sorry, but your frame rotted in half, and the rig is a total loss", you aren't even hitting a one yet. Wire brush whatever bothers you, soak the whole thing in fluid film, and see if you need to reapply the stuff, a year or two from now.
Jun-02-2018 05:25 PM
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Jun-02-2018 12:39 PM
Tom/Barb wrote:RustyNewmar wrote:
Dear fellow RV'ers, here is a link to the pictures from underneath our brand new Mountain Air. Please note most of these shots were taken by the dealer prior to us taking delivery !
https://imgur.com/a/7InJw
Thank you, Paul & Kim.
I do not know how much Newmar has to do with how a coach is treated or used after sale. Your pictures show mostly chassis parts that are rusted. It looks like the rust is mostly surface rust, and not a safety issue.
If this were my problem, I would spray the whole chassis with THIS Then keep an eye on it. see more rust, spray it again.
This stuff works well applied with a small garden pump up sprayer.
Jun-02-2018 11:38 AM
RustyNewmar wrote:
Dear fellow RV'ers, here is a link to the pictures from underneath our brand new Mountain Air. Please note most of these shots were taken by the dealer prior to us taking delivery !
https://imgur.com/a/7InJw
After being invited, we traveled to Georgia to attend the open house at National Indoor RV Center. We meet our future sales person Angie Morrell and were treated to a wonderful time wile viewing many motor coaches. We left Georgia with every confidence in our new dealer.
A short time later we traveled to Texas to view and fall in love with a 2017 Newmar Mountain Aire. We agreed to the sale the last week of 2016 with delivery in late April 2017. After owning, servicing and repairing our four prior Newmar units we felt no need to slither under our new 2017.
We found rust early summer 2017. After confirming rust with Newmar, Newmar blamed the dealer. We contacted NIRVC, intending to explain the factory finger pointing. Much to our surprise,NIRVC quickly informed us of, and e-mailed us dozens of pictures of what would have been deal ending rust !!
Our last E-mail contact with Newmar was on January 2nd 2018, sent directly to Mr Miller- President and Mr. Parks- CEO. The only question contained in this E-mail was "The great saddening deal of rust in the suspension and steering components brings questions of safety, can this coach be driven on public roads at freeway speeds ?". To this date, there has never been an e-mail response.
It is our hope, in making this public, no other RV customers will have to endure this great deal of frustration and stress.
Thank you, Paul & Kim.
Jun-02-2018 08:43 AM
RustyNewmar wrote:
Yes this is a 2017 and had the dealer made us aware of the rust we would not taken
delivery of this coach ! Why doesn't Newmar make a statement that it is safe to drive ? Thank you for your time, Paul & Kim.
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