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Replacing a Norcold 1200 with a residential

bkd148
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Would it be possibble for forum members that have replaced thier No-cold refers with residential models to reply with the make and model that they have had success with? I'm looking for something that would fit in the opening without modifications on the width. I can go about 8in. lower if need be. Thanks Marty
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docj
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Bill.Satellite wrote:
A fridge that is listed as being 32.5" deep is NOT a counter depth fridge. Notice the last dimensions listed above and the depth of the box is only 24 1/4". Add the door itself and you are still only 28 1/8. The above link leads to a fridge with a depth of 32.5 and therefore has nothing at all to do with the type fridge the poster intends to install.
I love my household counter depth fridge and it doesn't take up any more living space than the RV fridge it replaced occupied.
"The Wife" wants a new one as she is totally smitten by the French Door setup instead of our current side-by-side unit. Our current unit (a GE Profile) is now going on 14 years old so it might also be time. The new ones are also much more energy efficient than our old dog so it could be a win-win for us during those times that we dry camp.


Fridges that are defined as counter depth have "boxes" that are flush with the cabinetry which is always 24" deep. The doors and handles always stick out beyond the cabinet or you wouldn't be able to open the doors.

Take a look at any of these counter depth models:

Counter depth refrigerators

The Samsung's box is 24" deep; with the handles it is 30.5" not 32.5". I don't know why people who don't own one think they know more than people who have one.
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docj
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bkd148 wrote:
Joel, Your Thunder looks similar to mine. Did the Samsung fit through your entry door with the doors and drawer removed or did it have to go through a window? Also, do the door handles hang out to far? My floorplan is a Monticelo so with the slide out I think no problem. Thanks Marty


We didn't try to bring it through the door. The folks who did the remodeling hired someone to remove and replace the right windshield. The swap was done in a single afternoon.

The door handles don't stick out all that far. They look like this:

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A fridge that is listed as being 32.5" deep is NOT a counter depth fridge. Notice the last dimensions listed above and the depth of the box is only 24 1/4". Add the door itself and you are still only 28 1/8. The above link leads to a fridge with a depth of 32.5 and therefore has nothing at all to do with the type fridge the poster intends to install.
I love my household counter depth fridge and it doesn't take up any more living space than the RV fridge it replaced occupied.
"The Wife" wants a new one as she is totally smitten by the French Door setup instead of our current side-by-side unit. Our current unit (a GE Profile) is now going on 14 years old so it might also be time. The new ones are also much more energy efficient than our old dog so it could be a win-win for us during those times that we dry camp.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
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Executive wrote:
docj wrote:
Executive wrote:


Norcold 1200LRIM H 63.25 W 32.69 D 24.0
Samsung 197SS H 69.80 W 32.30 D 32.5


I'm not sure where you got your dimensions for the Samsung, but these are right off of the Samsung site.

The total dimensions, including handles are:

32 1/8’’ x 70 1/8’’ x 30 1/2’’

The dimensions of the "box" are:

32 1/8’’ x 69 7/8’’ x 24 1/4"

Without the handles, the box plus doors are the following:

32 1/8’’ x 69 7/8’’ x 28 1/8’’

OTOH the 24" depth you quoted for the Norcold is only the cutout depth requirement, as stated on the Norcold site and doesn't include the doors or handles.

I am not making these corrections to try to convince you or anyone else to change whatever fridge they wish to have, but I think it is important that all parties have accurate information on which to base their decisions. Because the Samsung's box has the same 24" depth as the Norcold the fridge does not appreciably intrude into the room any more than than the Norcold does. I believe the measurements you cited are for the 21 cu ft model which is not a cabinet-depth appliance.


Samsung specs


That's a Home Depot webpage. I took my dimensions from this Samsung page: Samsung RF197

And since I own one, I know these happen to be correct.
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Executive wrote:


Norcold 1200LRIM H 63.25 W 32.69 D 24.0
Samsung 197SS H 69.80 W 32.30 D 32.5
Sorry, but the cabinet for mine was a perfect fit for the depth. Sure, the handle adds a little to the overall depth, but it fit "perfect" in our coach, which was built by Monaco. Plus your figures are a little off from the "actual" dimensions.

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docj wrote:
Executive wrote:


Norcold 1200LRIM H 63.25 W 32.69 D 24.0
Samsung 197SS H 69.80 W 32.30 D 32.5


I'm not sure where you got your dimensions for the Samsung, but these are right off of the Samsung site.

The total dimensions, including handles are:

32 1/8’’ x 70 1/8’’ x 30 1/2’’

The dimensions of the "box" are:

32 1/8’’ x 69 7/8’’ x 24 1/4"

Without the handles, the box plus doors are the following:

32 1/8’’ x 69 7/8’’ x 28 1/8’’

OTOH the 24" depth you quoted for the Norcold is only the cutout depth requirement, as stated on the Norcold site and doesn't include the doors or handles.

I am not making these corrections to try to convince you or anyone else to change whatever fridge they wish to have, but I think it is important that all parties have accurate information on which to base their decisions. Because the Samsung's box has the same 24" depth as the Norcold the fridge does not appreciably intrude into the room any more than than the Norcold does. I believe the measurements you cited are for the 21 cu ft model which is not a cabinet-depth appliance.


Samsung specs
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docj
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Executive wrote:


Norcold 1200LRIM H 63.25 W 32.69 D 24.0
Samsung 197SS H 69.80 W 32.30 D 32.5


I'm not sure where you got your dimensions for the Samsung, but these are right off of the Samsung site.

The total dimensions, including handles are:

32 1/8’’ x 70 1/8’’ x 30 1/2’’

The dimensions of the "box" are:

32 1/8’’ x 69 7/8’’ x 24 1/4"

Without the handles, the box plus doors are the following:

32 1/8’’ x 69 7/8’’ x 28 1/8’’

OTOH the 24" depth you quoted for the Norcold is only the cutout depth requirement, as stated on the Norcold site and doesn't include the doors or handles.

I am not making these corrections to try to convince you or anyone else to change whatever fridge they wish to have, but I think it is important that all parties have accurate information on which to base their decisions. Because the Samsung's box has the same 24" depth as the Norcold the fridge does not appreciably intrude into the room any more than than the Norcold does. I believe the measurements you cited are for the 21 cu ft model which is not a cabinet-depth appliance.
Sandie & Joel

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bkd148
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Joel, Your Thunder looks similar to mine. Did the Samsung fit through your entry door with the doors and drawer removed or did it have to go through a window? Also, do the door handles hang out to far? My floorplan is a Monticelo so with the slide out I think no problem. Thanks Marty
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The Texan wrote:
Samsung rf197. Perfect fit in width and depth, plus only about 2" taller than the Nocold 1200. Really nice to have "frozen" ice cream and "cold" beer. LOL.


Close, but not quite right....the width is the same, the DEPTH is NOT nor, as stated, is the height.....depending on how your fridge sits in the opening, the handles on the 197 might protrude into the hallway. This was the main reason I went to the Amish cooling unit instead of the residential route. So far, I'm pleased with my decision....time will tell however.....Dennis

Norcold 1200LRIM H 63.25 W 32.69 D 24.0
Samsung 197SS H 69.80 W 32.30 D 32.5
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DavisK wrote:
I turned on my "No-cold" Friday to get ready for an outing this weekend. I was carrying some things to the trailer a few minutes ago and checked the temperature. The freezer was -7, and the fridge was 26. I think my beer will be cold and ice cream will be frozen.


It's brand new......
Turned on Friday it should be cold today :B

26*F in food section......milk will probably be frozen too.
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I turned on my "No-cold" Friday to get ready for an outing this weekend. I was carrying some things to the trailer a few minutes ago and checked the temperature. The freezer was -7, and the fridge was 26. I think my beer will be cold and ice cream will be frozen.
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The Texan wrote:
Samsung rf197. Perfect fit in width and depth, plus only about 2" taller than the Nocold 1200. Really nice to have "frozen" ice cream and "cold" beer. LOL.


X2; another vote for the Samsung RF197! Best improvement we've made.
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I haven't done a swap to residential.
Seems Samsung RF197 & Fisher & Paykel RF170ADX4 work well

Samsung RF197...Happiness???


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Samsung rf197. Perfect fit in width and depth, plus only about 2" taller than the Nocold 1200. Really nice to have "frozen" ice cream and "cold" beer. LOL.

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