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Quint_Da_Man
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I did a search for this type of info and didn't find anything in the forum. Since wife and I plan on going full time when retired my question is if you go full time and do not have a permanent residency anymore how and where do you register your coach and are there states that are more advantageous tax-wise and insurance-wise to do so.
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joelc
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If you don't have domicile you are in tough shape. There are clubs such as Escapees where you can have domicile. Welcome to the harsh world of full-time discrimination. We are on Soc.Sec. and have attempted to create a domicile with difficulty in NC. We had stayed at a CG and were able to use that address as a legal address for a bit, and also had a PO Box for mail. After, a while our insurance found out we were in another state and threatened to cancel us unless we were in NC. We are in FL now and are going back to NC for physicals. We hope to make a cross country trip before coming back to the East Coast, but insurance has shortened this. We now have a address at a place where they claim we can also use as a domicile. Hope it lasts until our trip is done.

So, if you know someone, use their address or else use someone like Escapees, but it is expensive. We hope the UPS store will work for us, until we get back. It is not like we are trying to beat the system, as we do plan to live in NC for at least 6 months in the Winter, then head North in the Summer.

Good luck, and have safe travels. We also volunteer at CG and Federal area where we trade labor for a site. If you are interested in that, check out Volunteer.gov.

Executive45
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It's wise to be thinking ahead. In order to make the transition easier, do your research now. Every situation is different and what works for me, may not work for you. Establishing a domicile state should not be taken lightly. Tax consideration is but one small aspect. Health care is another. Medicare is easier in the bigger States than it is in smaller ones, but if you can get adequate care based on your health history, it may not matter. You need not own property in whatever state you choose.

We chose South Dakota based on our situation and it's advantages to us. California sales tax was 9 3/4% and SD was 3%. That alone saved us $39,690 when we purchased our coach. But, you must use caution when deciding which is best for you. Don't decide simply based on tax savings.

Since the home where you spend significant time per year is now mobile, you can choose any of the 50 States as your domicile state. The best way to avoid any future issues is to follow many of the guidelines set up by the IRS. They look at your "intent". Say you have friends/relatives in Ca. Your banking facilities are there, you're registered to vote there and you spend several months traveling up and down the coast. Most likely you would be considered a Ca resident. If you register your vehicles in SD/TX/Fla/Ore, you risk getting caught up in a tax mess eventually albeit a small risk. Decide on a domicile state and move EVERYTHING there...banking, driver's license, registration, voters registration, health insurance etc. etc. That way, you'll never have to be looking over your shoulder.

Briefly, here's what we found. This info is 7 yrs old so take that into consideration. As mentioned, RV friendly States are SD, Fla and Tx. SD has no income tax, 3, now 4%, sales tax, low registration fees and no vehicle inspections. Your license is good for 5 years but you must stay one night within their State to renew. DL renewal cannot be done online without a receipt showing the one night stay. Everything else can be done online. Texas requires a vehicle inspection every other year, which could be a hassle. Florida had too many issues for our situation to consider their State. The Montana LLC angle you asked about has been abused to such an extent IMO, it's not worth the hassle. It can be done legally, but because of the rampant abuse, many States look closely to ensure you have followed the rules completely. I don't need that kind of aggravation in my life at this age.

Things to look out for: Medical coverage, insurance coverage, tax advantages, ease of registration/DL renewal, cost of registering your vehicles, (watch out for hidden taxation) and insurance costs.

Speaking of insurance, there are only a few companies that offer full timer insurance. Sure you can 'cheat' the system and not fully disclose you're a full timer but do you want that to become an 'issue' when you need the coverage? Full timer insurance includes an extensive comprehensive rider similar to the homeowner's policy of a stix n brix home. Expect to pay about $1500-$2000/yr for coverage.

Everyone's situation is different. Use the above as a guideline and plug in your situation for each State, then choose the one that suits your needs the best. Once you've decided, you can then begin transferring all your stuff to your new State. We started 6 months before my retirement date so when I retired we were already residents of SD...7 years now and all is good....BOL...Dennis
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2oldman
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Go to Fulltime forum. Search 'residency', or 'residence' or 'domicile'. Just the one word at a time.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

WyoTraveler
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Montana has one of the highest state income taxes in the nation except for New Jersey. If you are in a very low income bracket it may not be a problem. My choices were Montana or Wyoming when I moved out of CA. Montana state income tax is much higher than CA. Montana does not have a sales tax but have been talking about adding one.

Second_Chance
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Quint Da Man wrote:
I did a search for this type of info and didn't find anything in the forum. Since wife and I plan on going full time when retired my question is if you go full time and do not have a permanent residency anymore how and where do you register your coach and are there states that are more advantageous tax-wise and insurance-wise to do so.


Search using the key word "domicile." You will find tons of stuff on this forum. Also check out the Escapees' web site (they have white papers on the topic researched by experts) and RV-Dreams.com. Both sites have a wealth of information on full-timing, including domicile information.

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donfrump
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Quint Da Man wrote:
I did a search for this type of info and didn't find anything in the forum. Since wife and I plan on going full time when retired my question is if you go full time and do not have a permanent residency anymore how and where do you register your coach and are there states that are more advantageous tax-wise and insurance-wise to do so.


the most popular out west are montana Oregon and south Dakoda
Oregon has no sales tax or PP tax or high plate fees etc but does have state income tax

Two_Jayhawks
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Dutch_12078 wrote:
The typically preferred states for establishing a domicile for fulltiming are Florida, South Dakota, and Texas. All three have advantageous tax laws, but there are some differences to consider when deciding which one fits your needs best. Vehicle and health insurance differences are another consideration. The usual method of establishing a domicile in a given state involves setting up a mail forwarding address at one of the commercial forwarders in the state of choice, and then registering your vehicles and obtaining drivers licenses there. Each state has its own additional requirements for domicile documentation, but the three states mentioned make it pretty easy. The Full-time RV'ing section here would be a good place to ask more specific questions.


Just curious (I'm not full timing anytime soon) everyone talks about the advantage of registering in Montana. How come South Dakota, Florida, and Texas but not Montana?
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Quint_Da_Man
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Thank you both for the info.....
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Dutch_12078
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The typically preferred states for establishing a domicile for fulltiming are Florida, South Dakota, and Texas. All three have advantageous tax laws, but there are some differences to consider when deciding which one fits your needs best. Vehicle and health insurance differences are another consideration. The usual method of establishing a domicile in a given state involves setting up a mail forwarding address at one of the commercial forwarders in the state of choice, and then registering your vehicles and obtaining drivers licenses there. Each state has its own additional requirements for domicile documentation, but the three states mentioned make it pretty easy. The Full-time RV'ing section here would be a good place to ask more specific questions.
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donn0128
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Fl, TX, and SD are the three most popular.