Who's using a Weber Q attached to MH?

[NAUTIQUE]

Hi all,
I'm looking for someone help from someone using the Weber Q connected to a stay-a-while deluxe.
I just grabbed a Weber Q1000 at a great price.
I already had the stay-a-while on the MH with the connection between the shut-off knob and the regulator.
I gave it a try tonight.
It seemed to light (I could kind off hear it) and it felt like it was warming up, but I couldn't really see any flame from the Weber's burner.
Is this normal or have I got something set-up wrong??
Thanks in advance for any help you can give!

[lonewolf80]

All's well that ends well! Thanks for the update that your problem was resolved.

[NAUTIQUE]

soren,
I'll have to grab a set of those.
It does seem like it probably just neeeded to burn off the oils?
Anyways - the Weber does work fine off the MH tank without modification!

[soren]

Sounds like you may of burned some oil out of the holes. Try the $4 set of welding tip files I discussed earlier. Every time my grille gets dirty enough to require a major cleaning, I spend a few minutes filing all the holes clean again. It really makes a stunning difference in how the flame pattern looks when you get them properly cleaned out.

[NAUTIQUE]

Well... just to update:
Last Friday I went out and grabbed a 1 pound bottle and tried it - no different!
(I could hear it light and could feel heat but there was no flame coming out the small holes at top of burner tube.)
Called Weber customer support - had one guy tell me to try using a wire brush and brush top of burner - "it may be mfg. oil"? Ok? tried it didn't seem any different.
Called back and got a very nice girl who thought the regulator might be bad & put in an order to send me a new one free of charge. (She also said that using the bottle it should light fine right away - if using a hose off the MH tank, let it sit a couple minutes before lighting.)
Hitched it back up to the hose & relit - let it burn for awhile - went back to shut it off after about 10-15 minutes & actually could see a little blue flame!
Went away for a mini vacay the next day.
Took it with us and tried it a couple times - now had blue flame that i would expect & cooked great!
Soooo... not sure what that was all about, but definitely works fine of the MH tank with extend-a-stay!
Just seemed like it took awhile to burn-in? Maybe it was some MFG oil or something?
Looks like I'll now have a replacement regulator. :@

[SCVJeff]

Who ever said that was wrong.. as long as everything works properly the flame will be exactly the same with the extend-a-stay or a bottle. There ARE occasionally issues with all the idiot valves in the hose that you can sometimes clear by whacking the ends. But I recently tossed a hose that I had been having the same low flame issue with and there was no amount of beating or sweet talk that would open it up. It was only 25 years old.. I would however keep a spare conventional regulator and whatever adapters you need to mount it on hand, because when the Weber regulator quits you're gonna be having Frosted Flakes for dinner

[Mile_High]

soren wrote:

NAUTIQUE wrote:
soren,
I definitely opened it fully all at once before trying it.
so are you saying to just open the tank a little at a time and then light?
Or just open a little & then light?

Step one, grab a FULL one pound cylinder and screw it on. Now does the grille light and heat properly? If the answer is no, you have a defect in the grill, most likely a regulator issue. Now if you are hooked to your extend a stay, and it is having issues, after you successfully operated it on a one pound cylinder, you can blame something in the hose, fitting, tank etc....... One thing to look at is how full is the tank on the motorhome? Can you light up a gas burner on the stove and get a good flame? As for the OPD device we are discussing, it has nothing to do with a stationary tank in a motorhome. It is a safety valve installed in portable tanks.

X2
The answer i got was yes, so I know I can't use my RV LP tap with the Weber unless I take the regulator off the Weber. I just stuck with 1lb cylinders.

[ScottG]

I'm using a Q100 directly off the regulated supply of my TT. You have to remove the Q's regulator to use it in this fashion.
Once you do remove it, your left with a nice 1/8" NPT thread that you can easily adapt to either a male quick disconnect or a propane hose.

I have the male ends attached to all my PP items (BBQ, Stove, Firepit) and 2 10' hoses. With theis combination I can put them just about anyplace and never have to carry a PP loose tank.
I used the fire pits regulator (because it had the highest flow) on the end of another hose that I can connect to a bulk cylinder. The other end of that hose has the same female QD.
I can run any of my PP items off either the bulk cyl. or the connection on the TT.
This has been wonderfully convenient.

[NAUTIQUE]

Just under a 1/2 tank of propane in MH. Everything else works fine.
I'll try it again today & maybe try a 1 lb cyl to see if it works any different.

[soren]

NAUTIQUE wrote:
soren,
I definitely opened it fully all at once before trying it.
so are you saying to just open the tank a little at a time and then light?
Or just open a little & then light?

Step one, grab a FULL one pound cylinder and screw it on. Now does the grille light and heat properly? If the answer is no, you have a defect in the grill, most likely a regulator issue. Now if you are hooked to your extend a stay, and it is having issues, after you successfully operated it on a one pound cylinder, you can blame something in the hose, fitting, tank etc....... One thing to look at is how full is the tank on the motorhome? Can you light up a gas burner on the stove and get a good flame? As for the OPD device we are discussing, it has nothing to do with a stationary tank in a motorhome. It is a safety valve installed in portable tanks.

[soren]

RedRocket204 wrote:

soren wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:
It is a regulator issue. The Q100, Q200, Q1000, Q1200 are designed to be run off of the disposable 1lb green propane cylinders. Weber does make an adapter for using refillable propane cylinders but that will not work very well. I recently replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with a standard regulator and fitting and can't believe how much better is it working. I get a variable blue flame 100% of the time now. I do use a refillable 5lbs propane cylinder on mine, but, the same concept should apply for you.

Read through this: Weber Q - low flame or no flame

I replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with:

5 Feet Universal QCC1 Low Pressure Propane Regulator Grill Replacement

Anderson Metals Brass Tube Fitting, Coupling, 3/8" Flare x 1/8" Female Pipe

EDIT: You would need to remove the Weber Q1000 regulator and use an adapter to connect the proper quick connect you are using on your system. Follow all safety recommendations in that link to make sure you have no leaks before attempting to light your grill.

I have used an adapter hose and a 20 lb tank on my weber Q for many years with no issue, and on a Coleman roadtrip grille for years before that. When you turn the big tank on you have to do it slowly, to avoid tripping the OPD valve in the tank, but other than that, it works great. Frankly, about the only thing of value in that link is the fact that you need to slowly bring the hose up to pressure to not trip the safety. He lost all credibility with the claim that he has dealt with "literally thousands of people" with issues using hose adapters. Sorry, but given that "expert's" BS claim, having using one sucessfully for at least fifteen years, on two different grilles, and knowing many others that do so without incident, you would have a tough time convincing me that Weber "designed" the thing to be used on the one pound cylinders, and hoses don't work well.

I am aware of turning on the propane cylinder first and letting the tank adjust pressure to avoid tripping the valve as that is Weber's exact recommendation on their own website. However, weak flame on my Weber Q200 from multiple cylinders over the years never truly fixed the issue.

I understand you have an opinion on this but there are many who will disagree with you about using that adapter hose and getting the best possible flame, myself included. All I can tell you is on my converted Weber Q200, I do get a 100% blue flame that can be adjusted via the Q200 control. It is working perfect now where I've been having Q200 flame related issues prior. You don't have to believe it and that's your choice, I'm just passing along what worked extremely well for me.

Oh, I don't doubt that you grill works better with a higher quality, possibly higher flow regulator, but it has nothing to do with the hose, and imaginary issues with using a hose. As others have stated here, Qs are not know for a roaring flame, and work quite well, even when it's difficult to even see a flame (and nearly impossible to see in bright daylight) My grille performs exactly the same on a one pound bottle, or a hose, and since it's basic physics, I would expect nothing less. I wouldn't hesitate to do what you did, if my regulator fails, but overall, IMHO, the guy you linked to is FOS, and hoses are generally a non-issue.

[NAUTIQUE]

soren,
I definitely opened it fully all at once before trying it.
so are you saying to just open the tank a little at a time and then light?
Or just open a little & then light?

[RedRocket204]

soren wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:
It is a regulator issue. The Q100, Q200, Q1000, Q1200 are designed to be run off of the disposable 1lb green propane cylinders. Weber does make an adapter for using refillable propane cylinders but that will not work very well. I recently replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with a standard regulator and fitting and can't believe how much better is it working. I get a variable blue flame 100% of the time now. I do use a refillable 5lbs propane cylinder on mine, but, the same concept should apply for you.

Read through this: Weber Q - low flame or no flame

I replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with:

5 Feet Universal QCC1 Low Pressure Propane Regulator Grill Replacement

Anderson Metals Brass Tube Fitting, Coupling, 3/8" Flare x 1/8" Female Pipe

EDIT: You would need to remove the Weber Q1000 regulator and use an adapter to connect the proper quick connect you are using on your system. Follow all safety recommendations in that link to make sure you have no leaks before attempting to light your grill.

I have used an adapter hose and a 20 lb tank on my weber Q for many years with no issue, and on a Coleman roadtrip grille for years before that. When you turn the big tank on you have to do it slowly, to avoid tripping the OPD valve in the tank, but other than that, it works great. Frankly, about the only thing of value in that link is the fact that you need to slowly bring the hose up to pressure to not trip the safety. He lost all credibility with the claim that he has dealt with "literally thousands of people" with issues using hose adapters. Sorry, but given that "expert's" BS claim, having using one sucessfully for at least fifteen years, on two different grilles, and knowing many others that do so without incident, you would have a tough time convincing me that Weber "designed" the thing to be used on the one pound cylinders, and hoses don't work well.

I am aware of turning on the propane cylinder first and letting the tank adjust pressure to avoid tripping the valve as that is Weber's exact recommendation on their own website. However, weak flame on my Weber Q200 from multiple cylinders over the years never truly fixed the issue.

I understand you have an opinion on this but there are many who will disagree with you about using that adapter hose and getting the best possible flame, myself included. All I can tell you is on my converted Weber Q200, I do get a 100% blue flame that can be adjusted via the Q200 control. It is working perfect now where I've been having Q200 flame related issues prior. You don't have to believe it and that's your choice, I'm just passing along what worked extremely well for me.

[soren]

RedRocket204 wrote:
It is a regulator issue. The Q100, Q200, Q1000, Q1200 are designed to be run off of the disposable 1lb green propane cylinders. Weber does make an adapter for using refillable propane cylinders but that will not work very well. I recently replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with a standard regulator and fitting and can't believe how much better is it working. I get a variable blue flame 100% of the time now. I do use a refillable 5lbs propane cylinder on mine, but, the same concept should apply for you.

Read through this: Weber Q - low flame or no flame

I replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with:

5 Feet Universal QCC1 Low Pressure Propane Regulator Grill Replacement

Anderson Metals Brass Tube Fitting, Coupling, 3/8" Flare x 1/8" Female Pipe

EDIT: You would need to remove the Weber Q1000 regulator and use an adapter to connect the proper quick connect you are using on your system. Follow all safety recommendations in that link to make sure you have no leaks before attempting to light your grill.

I have used an adapter hose and a 20 lb tank on my weber Q for many years with no issue, and on a Coleman roadtrip grille for years before that. When you turn the big tank on you have to do it slowly, to avoid tripping the OPD valve in the tank, but other than that, it works great. Frankly, about the only thing of value in that link is the fact that you need to slowly bring the hose up to pressure to not trip the safety. He lost all credibility with the claim that he has dealt with "literally thousands of people" with issues using hose adapters. Sorry, but given that "expert's" BS claim, having using one sucessfully for at least fifteen years, on two different grilles, and knowing many others that do so without incident, you would have a tough time convincing me that Weber "designed" the thing to be used on the one pound cylinders, and hoses don't work well.

[RedRocket204]

It is a regulator issue. The Q100, Q200, Q1000, Q1200 are designed to be run off of the disposable 1lb green propane cylinders. Weber does make an adapter for using refillable propane cylinders but that will not work very well. I recently replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with a standard regulator and fitting and can't believe how much better is it working. I get a variable blue flame 100% of the time now. I do use a refillable 5lbs propane cylinder on mine, but, the same concept should apply for you.

Read through this: Weber Q - low flame or no flame

I replaced my Weber Q200's regulator with:

5 Feet Universal QCC1 Low Pressure Propane Regulator Grill Replacement

Anderson Metals Brass Tube Fitting, Coupling, 3/8" Flare x 1/8" Female Pipe

EDIT: You would need to remove the Weber Q1000 regulator and use an adapter to connect the proper quick connect you are using on your system. Follow all safety recommendations in that link to make sure you have no leaks before attempting to light your grill.