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67Cutlass
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Not trying to be critical here. But really is this necessary?

I have stayed in the site in the photo and can personally say that this site is almost perfectly level. I really don't understand the need for blocks or having the front wheels in the air. And by the looks of it, those rear tires are barely on the ground.

But then again not my business...

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BillMFl
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CT_WANDERER wrote:
I know on my system, I have Auto-level or Manual-leveling. You can raise, however you have no control on lowering. So you lift with Auto or manual until you are happy, but you can not just lower one jack. It is all or nothing, unless I missed something.


Kinda surprised to hear that. Everything I have owned let me raise or lower individually.
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CT_WANDERER
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I know on my system, I have Auto-level or Manual-leveling. You can raise, however you have no control on lowering. So you lift with Auto or manual until you are happy, but you can not just lower one jack. It is all or nothing, unless I missed something.

msmith1199
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I don't think the issue here is so much that the front wheels are off the ground. I have lifted my front wheels on occasion myself. But when I have had to lift the front wheels the procedure was to raise the front jacks until the motorhome was level. And then lower the rear jacks only until they touched the ground and took a little weight off just to stabilize the motorhome. But the OP also said the site here is level and the motorhome is not. So there doesn't appear to be much reason to have set the motorhome up like this.

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I stopped using my auto leveled about 5 years ago just for that very reason, we were spending way too much time in the clouds! :E

Did many calibrations but didn't help so now I use the levelers on manual and I never have the wheels off the ground. :C

BillMFl
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I cringe when I see wheels off the ground. No reason for it. Especially on a nearly level paved site. My guess is his auto level null isn't set right and he manually adjusted even higher rather than adjusting lower.
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jimroach
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From the Pic it looks like my southwind, I have been on several sites where my front wheels are off the ground. Since it auto levels, don't know any way not to do it.
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Yellowboat_
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I canโ€™t tell if this space is level by looking at the picture. I will assume the site is not level and give the owner the benefit of doubt.

If this was my rig I would lift the front end even higher and then I would block my front tires. I would then lower the rig and level it once more. When leveled a second time my front axle would be supported and not hanging in the air.

I have done this procedure more than once to keep an axle from hanging from my rig.

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Mr_Mark1
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If that coach were to ever start to slide, those level legs are toast. Obviously a gas coach can't lower down on the bags like a diesel coach can so I can't criticize these folks. But, I think I would level manually if that is what I would end up with.

Leave the rear wheels alone and just lower the front jacks until they touch and maybe an inch more. The rear wheel parking brake will not hold unless firmly planted and this guys rear wheels look like you could slide feather underneath them.

Hope he doesn't fall off the blocks.
MM.

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WILDEBILL
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Ok just a thought. I canโ€™t tell what make coach it is or what brand of jacks he has. But bless his hart he is doing the best he can. Perhaps he doesnโ€™t have the experience you have. Perhaps it is an automatic system perhaps not perhaps I would have lowered the jacks and started over. Did you offer to help or just publish pictures?
Bill

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well, FWIW, this is Bluewater Key as mentioned and none of those sites are off level. I suspect the MH shown has Atwood electric levelers. The "AUTO" on those levelers really means AUTO to its memory/programmed position. I suspect if this guy were to level manually and go through the memory setup process, he would avoid this on his next level site. Just my humble opinion though.
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koda55
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When we had our gasser, it would depend on the site if my front wheels were off the ground. I had big foot automatic levelers and once a year I would recalibrate them.

CT_WANDERER
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I know on my MH it has autoleveler and some time it will lift the tires off the ground before it stop. I have found that sometimes, if I lower it and re-level, it will stop with the tires still on the ground. Other time the leveler will stop at level but with not enough load on the jacks to stop the bouncing when moving in the MH so I have to over ride the auto-control and extend the jack a little more and a wheel will come off the ground. We all have our own reasons why we do things we do.

C-Leigh_Racing
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67Cutlass wrote:
Not trying to be critical here. But really is this necessary?

I have stayed in the site in the photo and can personally say that this site is almost perfectly level. I really don't understand the need for blocks or having the front wheels in the air. And by the looks of it, those rear tires are barely on the ground.

But then again not my business...



Why, :E
Well if you had hung around long enough after taking that pic, you probably have seen the owner of the RV, at one point with something covering those rocks to lay on & then laying under the front end doing the "Cheap Handling Fix" to the front sway bar on that F53 Ford chassis. :B
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azpete
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my wife takes care of my money, and my neighbors take care of my business. life is good. if i were in key west, that mh could be upside down. i would still be enjoying it.
seriously though, it appears that it is out of level. this could be due to the calibration of the level sensor, or just operator error.
automatic leveling doesnt always take the wheels off the ground. neither does putting blocks under the jacks. the sensor doesnt know if there are blocks or not.
many campgrounds ask that you put pads under the jacks to avoid putting dents in the blacktop, or holes in the ground. it doesnt appear to be a problem in this case.
it doesnt hurt to take the front tires off the ground. ive seen that many times, and done it myself. its not a good practice to leave it that way for long. putting blocks under the wheels helps cut down on neighbors knocking.
as many said, its just a cosmetic problem, not a serious problem.

mowermech
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the way I look at it, to each his own.
It isn't my coach, if something breaks it doesn't cost me a thing.
If that is the way he learned to set up his rig, so be it!
From the looks of the basement doors, that coach is very similar to mine, except I don't have a slide on the passenger side. I have been in places where I had the front tires off the ground when leveled, and the rear jacks were down just enough to take weight. It happens. No big deal.
But, again, MY coach, MY problem.
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