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New to RVing, concerned with safe traveling

Snobrdr314
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My Wife and I are new to the RV world. I used to camp in a waxed canvas tent throughout my childhood and then in the newer lightweight tents as an adult. Now that Im married with two small boys (4 year olds) we thin kthat it might be fun to own an RV and take off on weekends, school holidays and summers to go see America.

We've attended a few Rv shows and really like the Winnebago Ind. Sunstar 32k or 35b bunkhouse MH's. My main concern is safety. Are motorhomes safe to travel with such small children? I know they would love to be in the bunks while traveling, and I know that is NOT the safest way for them to travel in the MH while in motion. For the boys to be in car seats latched into a couch seatbelt seems like traveling would not be much better than in our 2011 Ford Explorer.

I guess I'm looking for comments from other parents, grandparents, and the community on how best to:
1. Choose a well constructed "safe" coach.

2. Travel safely with 2 small boys.

I welcome everyones opinions and comments as it would ease both our minds.
Thanks a bunch.
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Shot-N-Az
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As stated, seatbelt use is optional in the house. It's about risk management and risk tolerance.

kcny
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bass n bob - can you elaborate on your adding the 3 point buckles (what model, how did you determine the upper mount)?

My son will need to switch to a booster seat soon and I only have lap belts in my motorhome.
32' 1992 Holiday Rambler 1000

bass_n_bob
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we travel regularly with our 4 year old grandchild and have been doing so for almost 3 years. She sits in her car seat at the dinette. She can color, play with small toys or watch a small screen DVR Player. I added 3 point buckles for the car seat plus use the regular seat belt for a 5 point hook up. She's more secure here than in our toad. She doesn't have an option like sitting in her bunk while we are on the road. We stop every 2 to 3 hours and let her stretch her legs. We do 10 hours per day and she is a terrific traveler. The key is she knows grandpa's rules on the road are non-negotiable. Buckle in your kids- you'll never forgive yourself if you don't and there is an incident.

wannavolunteerF
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I am beginning research for my next RV which if planned to be a Class A, and have talked with my DD about seats for my DGD, so she can travel with me some. DD keeps up with the latest research and laws for seatbelts and felt like the safest place would be on a front facing dinette bench in an carseat/booster seat facing forward. Laws keep changing and getting stricter but I think her comments on safety are to be considered.

That being said, remember by traveling in a MH, you are making stops much easier and quicker. When DD travels without another adult, just her, the baby and the dog, she says a "simple potty stop" takes nearly an hour. Feeding the baby makes the stop take longer. In MH, a potty break could occur in just a very few minutes, because you don't have to take everyone out of vehicle, just make a quick run to the back. You also can feed your kids when they are hungry without getting out of MH, even if you do stop to prepare them something.

OP.. think about how much easier a potty break would be with your 2 4 year olds.. no running across parking lots, waiting in line at stop, and trying to keep up with them and no worry about them getting into someone else's germs. (no I am not a germ-phobic, but keeping little ones from touching everything in a public restroom can be a challenge)
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Matt_Colie
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OK Here,

Let's just open here with the facts.
Only about half of the drivers in vehicle/vehicle crashes are at fault.
A loose body can be a very large projectile in a crash situation.
It is rare that an incident is expected or can be anticipated.

To these ends, allowing passengers loose in a vehicle is a poor idea at best. The good news is that vehicle/vehicle accidents on free flowing highways are actually rare. So, if any time you are in any kind of traffic, all occupants should be restrained. That being the case, let's look at another case: Someone wants a something and you are on an open highway. With and only with the consent of the driver, someone unhooks and retrieves whatever and returns to the seat and hooks up again. With reasonable conditions and the short exposure time, I will accept this as a reasonable risk.

Then, there is the other part of travel by coach. Things to do that cannot be done in a passcar. These are things like playing board games and doing small safe crafts. As the view is better from most RVs, that is also a good thing to think about and this is particularly true if you are not on sceneryless interstate.

Now let's just look at vehicle to vehicle crashes involving RVs. (I never actually reported on these tests, but let's just say I have enough experience with other to make effective conjectures.) We will look at an intersection crash (FMVSS 214) or a nearly head-on (IIHS 25 or 40%)(two very standard tests done all the time by manufactures) with a typical passcar as the other vehicle. The occupants of the RV will be largely above the intrusion in either case. The basic mass of the RV will reduce the impact on the RV's occupants. The shell of most RVs - even the bus-based will provide little protection in a side impact (214). What happens in a nose-to-nose is very dependent on vehicle design, but the driver will still be above the primary impact.

Just a note: In the Recent Anchor Man movie, they roll an antique RV (GMC-TZE). The survival of the vehicle as portrayed in that scene is a fabrication. It was a specially prepared unit. These coaches have been rolled and the occupants survived, but there still wasn't much left and they sure couldn't drive it away. There is often not much left of a conventional wood framed coach rolls or impacts, but still, the occupants have the best chance if they are securely in seats. Those seats have seatbelts that are securely attached to the vehicles primary structure.

Me, I am an engineer that worked in crash testing for a few years.

Matt
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loulou57
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Executive wrote:


For the overprotective bunch.... how many kids are belted in while riding the SCHOOL BUS...:h....City Bus..:h.....Tour Bus...:h....If you don't know, the answer is ZERO.....Dennis


You are right but there are people who don't put their kids on school buses or city buses for the reason there are no seat belts.

We have no control over those buses but we do have control over our own vehicles.

If you have ever watched a child being thrown from a vehicle onto the highway and then hit by another vehicle you may not think...oh well, it won't happen to us! Trust me, it sure makes you face reality.

loulou57
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People will do what they want.

For us....no matter who you are, you wear your seat belt, you sit in a car seat, if you are in one of our vehicles.
You also wear your life jacket on our boat and have a license to fish if you are fishing from our boat. If you want to drive our boat, you have to have a license to do so.

Everybody can make a choice....some don't make smart ones!!

GordonThree
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wildtoad wrote:
never ever ever walk around in an RV in motion (especially the driver) and if you don't do all of this you are a bad parent, and the world will come to an end.


Thanks for giving me a big grin wildtoad 🙂
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past-MIdirector
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Our children grew up RVing from the time the oldest was 5 years old! We went from a B to a C then it's been A"s. In both the B and C they sat at the rear dinette while on the road and watched TV or played games unless they need a potty break. When they got to there preteens they did get up in the over head bed in the C once in a while on the road. The first A which was the last they traveled with us since they were too adult to go camping had bunk beds and they did sleep in them on the road.
Our current A the grandson who is 13 now and has traveled a lot with us likes the couch or the seat by the door. I driven over 150,000 miles in our RV and have had the blow outs, but one thing I do not do is speed down the highway. We usually travel at around 58 MPH and no that does not make you a hazard on the road but gives you plenty of time to slow down and stop if needed. We travel in the RV to enjoy the sights and the time on the road together.

Biggyniner
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I heard third hand somewhere that everything behind the drivers area is considered a "home" and as such does not necessarily need to comply with DOT safety standards. Same idea where people in a limo can drink alchohol and not be buckled in, etc. That said, it is probably still a good idea to wear a seat-belt when able.
Chris (KD7WZW)
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Terryallan
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Executive wrote:
Our grandkids travel with us for their summer vacation. Seat belts are mandatory if you're in the front seat, otherwise they're optional. That said, it's up to me as the driver to determine if they should be belted in when underway. Road conditions and traffic help in that determination. Otherwise they're free to roam, use the bathroom, watch TV or fix a snack.

For the overprotective bunch.... how many kids are belted in while riding the SCHOOL BUS...:h....City Bus..:h.....Tour Bus...:h....If you don't know, the answer is ZERO.....Dennis


There you go. Being sensible again.
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Executive45
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Our grandkids travel with us for their summer vacation. Seat belts are mandatory if you're in the front seat, otherwise they're optional. That said, it's up to me as the driver to determine if they should be belted in when underway. Road conditions and traffic help in that determination. Otherwise they're free to roam, use the bathroom, watch TV or fix a snack.

For the overprotective bunch.... how many kids are belted in while riding the SCHOOL BUS...:h....City Bus..:h.....Tour Bus...:h....If you don't know, the answer is ZERO.....Dennis
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wa8yxm
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Many states REQUIRE children to be properly restrained when travelling, Now there is much discussion on this in motor homes.. My Class A has 4 seat belts, two are in the front facing captain's chairs and 2 in the side facing couch (Bench seat) where I'm sitting now. (parked) some people insist that child safety seats are not designed for side facing use.

personal opinion: What about a side impact crash? Of course they are designed (Well good ones are designed) for side impact.

I can move, safely, around a moving vehicle, provided nothing of an emergency nature happens. Lots and lots of training to do that (All at low speed, I was a farm boy after all).

But most people.. Not without handrails to hold on to.. I would not want kids moving about in the motor home Heck, Even I prefer to have hand rails (Say if I am riding a city bus and moving to my seat as the driver pulls away from the bus stop).. City buses are free where I am at by the way.

I would not want kids loose in the RV when in motion. Or anyone else less seriously needed.
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wildtoad
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If the MH you're interested in has a booth dinette then you could strap them in there and be safe.

After doing a short internet search I've read that kids should not ride in a motorhome period, only strapped in a car seat in the front passenger chair, you need a customized setup where the seat and belts are bolted to the frame (not just plywood), never ever ever walk around in an RV in motion (especially the driver) and if you don't do all of this you are a bad parent, and the world will come to an end.

Being the parent you will do what you think is safe (enough) for you and your family. IMO, they should be seated, belted.
Tom Wilds
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RoyB
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I don't think I would want to travel down the road with growups or kids wandering around the trailer when in motion.

All the ones I have ever been in is alot of motion inside the trailers going down the roads...

What you would gain however is where the safety belt seats are. They could watch in-motion TV or DVD's all day long straped in their seat belts...

Roy Ken
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