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Running 3 AC's at once (50 amp /shore)

2resa
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Explorer
DH and I are looking at our first 5th wheel toy hauler purchase. Jayco Seismic Wave 400W. The one we are considering has three AC's. I understand that if you're using the generator, you can only have 2 AC's on at one time. Can we use all 3 at one time if we are fully hooked up? It would ruin the point of having the third if we could only use two since we may have folks in all three sections at once (master BR, living area, and garage for the kids). I've searched the internet but it would be nice to have a simple yes or no answer from someone familiar with it.

Also, DH seems pretty sure that his 2017 F350 (SRW) can handle this toy hauler. Dry weight is 14,652 I believe but not sure that includes 5500 Onan generator, third AC, etc. I saw one spec that put it around 15500. GVWR is 19000. His truck's specs are listed at 21100 or 20900. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Looking forward to joining the RV community.
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2resa
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Explorer
I'm pretty sure the purpose of this forum was for newbies with questions (kinda implied in the title of this particular chat). To those that have answered, thank you. I would rather get my information from folks that have RV's and real world experience than a sales person trying to get a commission or endless searching on the web.

To those that have had douche bag answers (basically three out of the four replies on page two) - WHY? Do you not have better things to do than troll RV forums to spout pointless comments?

I would rather not make a 70K mistake. I have spent time on Jeep Wrangler forums and I can say that jeep folks at least know how to help another Jeeper out with INFORMATIVE answers.

I have unsubscribed from my own thread so no need to come back with snide comments b/c you feel the need to have the last word.

TAGLARRY
Explorer
Explorer
How to run 3 AC's at the same time, first world problems.

Trackrig
Explorer II
Explorer II
jplante4 wrote:
I'm left wondering why anyone would need to run 3 A/Cs at once. Arizona?


Last year for the hydro-plane races in Washington it was 105F with no hook-ups. You couldn't run your generator from 10:00PM to 6:00AM. It was already hot by 6:00AM. If I'd had three ACs, I would have been running them all trying to get the rig cooled back down.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

Rangerman40
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Explorer
2resa wrote:
Asking for patience and clarification here. I have looked over that pdf numerous times and even called Ford to clarify. The guy had to put me on hold and just came back with the max being 12900. Doesn't seem right for a F350 but here's what's on the truck. It does have the 6.7 Turbo Diesel, shorter bed, SRW, already came ready for the 5th wheel hitch to be installed, 3.55 gear ratio. If I go to this site http://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/2017/models/f350-platinum/ I'm under the impression that we should be ok hauling that Seismic 400W. This is why I have a wrangler - so much less confusing but then I'm not towing anything either.


Shitty gearing, heavy amenities being a Platinum and SRW I can see a 13k tow rating. There probably isn't a lot of payload left in that truck.

jplante4
Explorer II
Explorer II
I'm left wondering why anyone would need to run 3 A/Cs at once. Arizona?
Jerry & Jeanne
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wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
Running all 3 on the generator depends on the generator.

5000-5000 will run two, 7500 should run 3
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
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valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
2resa wrote:
Asking for patience and clarification here. I have looked over that pdf numerous times and even called Ford to clarify. The guy had to put me on hold and just came back with the max being 12900. Doesn't seem right for a F350 but here's what's on the truck. It does have the 6.7 Turbo Diesel, shorter bed, SRW, already came ready for the 5th wheel hitch to be installed, 3.55 gear ratio. If I go to this site http://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/2017/models/f350-platinum/ I'm under the impression that we should be ok hauling that Seismic 400W. This is why I have a wrangler - so much less confusing but then I'm not towing anything either.


That corresponds to the crew cab 4x4 short bed with the 3.55 rear end and 20,900 CGVWR (check the sticker inside the truck door for the CGVWR).

If that matches your truck, that's the manufacturer's rating and this truck would be WAY over the ratings.

No, it's not surprising for a SRW.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

2resa
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Explorer
Asking for patience and clarification here. I have looked over that pdf numerous times and even called Ford to clarify. The guy had to put me on hold and just came back with the max being 12900. Doesn't seem right for a F350 but here's what's on the truck. It does have the 6.7 Turbo Diesel, shorter bed, SRW, already came ready for the 5th wheel hitch to be installed, 3.55 gear ratio. If I go to this site http://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/2017/models/f350-platinum/ I'm under the impression that we should be ok hauling that Seismic 400W. This is why I have a wrangler - so much less confusing but then I'm not towing anything either.

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
Air/Con: No problem on a 50amp shore power.

Dry weight is irrelevant unless you plan to run with an empty unit which no one does. I'm not a fan of dual rear wheel trucks but at 19-20k lbs, I would want dual rear wheels.

Then again, if I'm reading this correctly, 5th wheels are capped at 18k assuming a best case set of options. (see footnote 3 on page 5) You didn't give us the full specs on your truck so it could be as little as 11.9k in a worst case scenario.

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/17RV&TT_Ford_SuperDtyPU_Sep9.pdf
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
Nothing simple in your multiple questions. If your generator is large enough you can power three ACs...or Milwaukee. Slow down. Learn more before buying. "Pretty sure" isn't sure.
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Playtime_II
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I can run all 3 of my ACs on 50a shorepower but if I run the 110v clothes dryer my ems will shutdown the 3rd AC. Our genny is 10kw so cant advise there.
Playtime IV
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ScottG
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Nomad
No problem at all for 50A.

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
If you added a microair easy start kit to the air conditioners you may well be able to run all three on the 5500 watt Onan.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Explorer II
Yes, 50 amps is enough to run all three at the same time.
-- Chris Bryant