5% tipping point

[pianotuna]

Hi all,

"In 2022, electric vehicles’ share of new car sales in the U.S. surpassed 5 percent, which has been described as a “tipping point” for mass-market adoption."

This link takes you to a place to download the entire article.

From:

https://energy.canarymedia.com/speeding-up-ev-charging-cutting-time-and-costs-for-chargepoint-operat...

[dedmiston]

Sadly we won't see the answer.

[BCSnob]

3 tons wrote:
’…I was not calling either of them out personally, but rather the institutional complicity via Grant monies - in truth, perhaps I was a bit harsh (??)..l accept my admonishment while also respecting the Moderator’s position…(not an easy job!)…Nuff said…

3 tons

As someone who’s doctoral research was funded by the DOE and published in a peer reviewed journal and post doctoral research was funded by the NIH and published in a peer reviewed journal; how was I to take your unsupported accusation that 50% of govt funded published studies are fraudulent?

[way2roll]

JKJavelin wrote:
They were probably having this same discussion (or similar) with horse and buggy vs. the new fangled gasoline automobiles.
JK

Probably. The ironic thing is the naysayers were right. Mining fossil fuels, the manufacture of ICE's and vehicles and their by-products, dependence on foreign nations, ecological impact etc etc but but were sold as the greatest invention ever. And yet here we are now, all with ICE's - scrambling to undo everything that was done had we not just stuck with the horse and buggy. The answer - build another version of the same thing with similar if not worse impacts and call it an improvement. Rinse and repeat.

I think EV's are amazing but they aren't green, by any stretch and I don't think they are any better than newly engineered ICE's. I could totally get on board for a vehicle that actually solved some problem. EV's don't. They don't really solve a single problem. They are creating problems and have the potential for dramatic impacts to the environment that exceed the issues with ICE's they were promised to solve. If you are going do invent something as a replacement, shouldn't the replacement be better? Just trading one set of problems for another bundled in a fancy sparkly package with with lies on the wrapping paper and asking me to pay for it.

[3_tons]

JKJavelin wrote:
They were probably having this same discussion (or similar) with horse and buggy vs. the new fangled gasoline automobiles.
JK

No doubt, Fear has been refined into a marketable commodity $$ :E - my guess is that nowadays some folks may even have a fear of Dry Ice :B

3 tons

[Y-Guy]

Moved from Tech Issues

[time2roll]

Mass market adoption is the easy part. Mass market production will take some time yet.
BTW, towing an RV is not really part of the mass market.

[Latner]

way2roll wrote:
Congratulations to every American for helping 5% of the population to purchase EV's whether we wanted to or not. I get to buy my own car and help someone else buy theirs too! And feel good that we were contributing to the silver bullet to save the planet - but - eventually distilled down to simply fun to drive. Oh well..But we did find some new and inventive ways to ruin the planet and make a few fellas the richest men in the world in the process.

I get it, this post won't last long, not sheeple enough. But I enjoy seeing the truth spelled out even if it's short lived.

I'm with 'ya!

[JKJavelin]

They were probably having this same discussion (or similar) with horse and buggy vs. the new fangled gasoline automobiles.
JK

[3_tons]

In retrospect, perhaps I’m now a bit owing to PT for his exquisite interest in EV’s 🙂 !!

3 tons

[way2roll]

Congratulations to every American for helping 5% of the population to purchase EV's whether we wanted to or not. I get to buy my own car and help someone else buy theirs too! And feel good that we were contributing to the silver bullet to save the planet - but - eventually distilled down to simply fun to drive. Oh well..But we did find some new and inventive ways to ruin the planet and make a few fellas the richest men in the world in the process.

I get it, this post won't last long, not sheeple enough. But I enjoy seeing the truth spelled out even if it's short lived.

[3_tons]

2oldman wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
What does ATC mean?

Around the Campfire, where this post belongs, because it's going to get ugly, like the last one.

As per ‘ugly’ I mostly disagree - even though I was eventually admonished (removing a very prescient pg 17…), I very much enjoyed debating the erudite Academicians who’s ‘belief’ was (curiously, while offering zero evidence) that CO2 is some planetary boogieman…Wasn’t sure what they might offer up, but also counting myself fortunate for the opportunity to counter what’s in my view a mere commonly assumed narrative…Nor did they attempt to challenge my assertion of ‘outcome based science’…I was not calling either of them out personally, but rather the institutional complicity via Grant monies - in truth, perhaps I was a bit harsh (??)..l accept my admonishment while also respecting the Moderator’s position…(not an easy job!)…Nuff said…

3 tons

[Grit_dog]

2oldman wrote:

pianotuna wrote:
What does ATC mean?

Around the Campfire, where this post belongs, because it's going to get ugly, like the last one.

These threads are like Facebook bitsching for the elderly! Lol.

[Grit_dog]

pianotuna wrote:
MFL

What does ATC mean?

Canada is at 7% of all vehicle registrations for EV's

For 2023 Ram sold out EV's in just five days.

Hahaha, I presume you mean Ram filled the number of $100 not guaranteed “reservation” slots for a vehicle that won’t be around for 2 more years?
You’re being a try hard again, or just plain old antagonist. Haven’t had a dumb EV argument in a couple weeks….I get it.
Look on the bright side, the days are getting longer and your -37deg camping trips are getting shorter. Maybe you’ll find something constructive to do with springtime around the corner.

[2oldman]

pianotuna wrote:
What does ATC mean?

Around the Campfire, where this post belongs, because it's going to get ugly, like the last one.