DELAMINATION!!

[jayco302fk]

The DW and I have been riding the golfcart around ocean lakes cg and the number of RV's with delam is crazy. I think alot of them are stored here and not taken care. So much money just wasted due to lack of maintenance.

[jayco302fk]

wbwood wrote:

jayco302fk wrote:

mdcamping wrote:
I have had problems with my Jayco, first year while towing noticed front face of trailer starting to delaminate, when I returned home from the trip found a seam had popped opened on the roof. ended having the whole front face of the trailer replaced. The only good news it was covered on the 2 year warrant.

This all said, after every camping trip I'm finding seams that look like there starting to fail where I have to re caulk. 😞

I think a lot of this delamination comes from todays manufacturing practices including the use of the new environmentally safe caulks and glues.

Mike

I think the fiberglass RV's look nice but I like my aluminum model. They Seem to hold up well

The only thing is that you can't see any issues with the aluminum siding unless it's obvious damage to the aluminum. A lot of damage can happen between the aluminum and the inside and never shows signs of it until the mold. They both have their merits and issues.

I can fix anything that goes wrong with my aluminum model,I cant fix the fiberglass models lol.

[wbwood]

jayco302fk wrote:

mdcamping wrote:
I have had problems with my Jayco, first year while towing noticed front face of trailer starting to delaminate, when I returned home from the trip found a seam had popped opened on the roof. ended having the whole front face of the trailer replaced. The only good news it was covered on the 2 year warrant.

This all said, after every camping trip I'm finding seams that look like there starting to fail where I have to re caulk. 😞

I think a lot of this delamination comes from todays manufacturing practices including the use of the new environmentally safe caulks and glues.

Mike

I think the fiberglass RV's look nice but I like my aluminum model. They Seem to hold up well

The only thing is that you can't see any issues with the aluminum siding unless it's obvious damage to the aluminum. A lot of damage can happen between the aluminum and the inside and never shows signs of it until the mold. They both have their merits and issues.

[goducks10]

FrankShore wrote:
A lot of delamination is caused as a result of vacuum bonding and nothing else.

How does vacuum bonding cause delam? I would think that manf would stop doing that if that were the case since the vast majority of trailers are vacuum bonded and that would mean that the vast majority of trailers would have delam. But look around, most don't have delam.

[PortWentworthSa]

Firebirdman wrote:
Mine has shrunk as well, where the metal strips cover two panel joints the edges of the panels is now outside the strips allowing water to get in behind the outter skin. I'll have to get new strips made 1/2" wider to cover the gaps, as far as I know I can't purchase wider strips, seems to be a standard size, right now I have tape covering almost all the strip edges..

Mine hasn't shrunk to that point. I don't have any gaps. I can just see the shape of the wall studs or frame. I'm very water tight and the only issue is the look. But again, it doesn't bother me in any way. It just looks like a giant vacume was used to suck in my outer skin like what happens when you vacume pack your meat for the freezer. I have no idea what caused this. Just weird.

[ScottG]

FrankShore wrote:
A lot of delamination is caused as a result of vacuum bonding and nothing else.

Again, there is no proof of this. There's no vacuum left in the walls to suck moisture in and there's no more reason for this style of wall to leak than a pinch bonded or even wood studded wall.
If you have some other evidence or theory we'd all like to hear it.

[Firebirdman]

Mine has shrunk as well, where the metal strips cover two panel joints the edges of the panels is now outside the strips allowing water to get in behind the outter skin. I'll have to get new strips made 1/2" wider to cover the gaps, as far as I know I can't purchase wider strips, seems to be a standard size, right now I have tape covering almost all the strip edges..

[PortWentworthSa]

My Fleetwood MH has a weird skin problem. I can't call it delamination. It's as if the skin has shrunk or been sucked in. You can see the oultline of the wall studs in the outer skin. It really doesn't bother me at all. The outer skin is still solid as a rock. Just curious as to what caused it. It goes completely down both sides of the coach

[wbwood]

jayco302fk wrote:
The DW and I have been riding the golfcart around ocean lakes cg and the number of RV's with delam is crazy. I think alot of them are stored here and not taken care. So much money just wasted due to lack of maintenance.

The problem you are seeing are those that purchase the RV's and store them there and leave them. They don't pay attention to it. They don't have the proper maintenance completed which is a shame. Ocean Lakes has an RV service department. They will go get your RV out of storage and provide maintenance on it. People just forget about it. Out of site, out of mind. Then when they arrive on the site and see their RV their with some issues, they are there to have fun, not have it worked on.

One of the things we got (I thought was a waste) when we got our Class C last year from CW was an Elite membership. With the membership they will do a free inspection every year for those 3 years. I was having some things done earlier this year to the motorhome and told them to do the inspection. Glad they did. They found a very small hole in the roof and sealed it. They also check out the other seals. I will continue to have this done, even when I have to pay for it. While I can check it myself, it never hurts for someone else to do it as well as a precautionary. Half of owning an RV is maintenance and its gonna cost. Just do it when you are not using it.

[FrankShore]

A lot of delamination is caused as a result of vacuum bonding and nothing else.

[jayco302fk]

mdcamping wrote:
I have had problems with my Jayco, first year while towing noticed front face of trailer starting to delaminate, when I returned home from the trip found a seam had popped opened on the roof. ended having the whole front face of the trailer replaced. The only good news it was covered on the 2 year warrant.

This all said, after every camping trip I'm finding seams that look like there starting to fail where I have to re caulk. 😞

I think a lot of this delamination comes from todays manufacturing practices including the use of the new environmentally safe caulks and glues.

Mike

I think the fiberglass RV's look nice but I like my aluminum model. They Seem to hold up well

[mdcamping]

I have had problems with my Jayco, first year while towing noticed front face of trailer starting to delaminate, when I returned home from the trip found a seam had popped opened on the roof. ended having the whole front face of the trailer replaced. The only good news it was covered on the 2 year warrant.

This all said, after every camping trip I'm finding seams that look like there starting to fail where I have to re caulk. 😞

I think a lot of this delamination comes from todays manufacturing practices including the use of the new environmentally safe caulks and glues.

Mike

[ScottG]

I don't automatically assume the problem is the fault of the owner. From all I've read and seen about this industry I feel it's far more reasonable to blame the manufacturers for their shoddy work, poor material choices and bad engineering.

[uglybear11]

shoody engineering and design ........ if you had to check the roof of your home twice per yeqar? you do not as it is made of decent materials and design.

american cars were once made with the thoughts that having problems is ok ....... now much of this has stopped. rv manufacturers could do the same.

if only a few manufacturers made good products and consummers buy that product then and only then will the makers change,

or a champion comes along as ralph nader did ........ for cars.

the day is coming where people wil stop buying the****** i will never buy another trailer, it will hurt the industry but eventually newbies will see the issue and they will become educated enough to stop buying as well the campgrounds will suffer and many will pay a price but the ****ty trqailers will eventually come to a stop.

poo r maintnenace how would you feel if you had to check the oil in the engine with every fill up ..... going back - heck no

[Community Alumni]

"....some manufacturers have had delamination problems right out of the gate..."

Exactly! The RV manufacturers have done a great job brainwashing RV owners into believing the reason RVs fall apart right away is due to lack of maintenance and not because they are poorly built with inferior materials and shoddy workmanship.