Home dump station

[F1bNorm]

Having some sewer work done on the house, so I'm thinking why not add a RV dump point? Thinking 3-4 inches high in the flower bed.

Any thoughts? Yay or nay? Where would I look for fittings, caps, lids etc.

Norm

[mustangglp]

What kind of chemicals are guys using? I am pretty sure any thing that not OK for your septic system the city wouldn't want!
I use about a 1/4 cup of laundry detergent and dump in my clean out right next to my tank why could it possibly be a problem outher then not wasting a bunch of money and creating a job for someone?

[westend]

Francesca Knowles wrote:

ACDNate wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

You mean a cleanout/access tee, right?

I'll hussle on down to City Hall just as soon as you put up links to any municipal system that imposes any such requirement for such a small upfit to a single-residence's sewer line along with the applicable restrictions as to putting sewage into it.

The point you are missing is that utility systems aren't the most open minded with doing things that a system wasn't designed for. Of course it would work fine, thats not the point.

:h

I've actually participated in a long planning process for a municipal sewage system, and can assure you that they're designed to treat sewage. And since "sewage" is what's in an RV black tank.... what exactly IS your (and Mocoondo's) point?

Exterior located sewer cleanouts are OK with my State Code, based on UBC so should carry through most States.
Not to say that some municipalities may make a regulation against using it to drain sewage from an RV or anything else. Not everyone would like to see their neighbors use the cleanout as a drain.

[mlts22]

From what I've seen, the city is fine with it, provided they get their water/wastewater dues. However, NIMBY syndrome is alive and well.

[Francesca_Knowl]

ACDNate wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

You mean a cleanout/access tee, right?

I'll hussle on down to City Hall just as soon as you put up links to any municipal system that imposes any such requirement for such a small upfit to a single-residence's sewer line along with the applicable restrictions as to putting sewage into it.

The point you are missing is that utility systems aren't the most open minded with doing things that a system wasn't designed for. Of course it would work fine, thats not the point.

:h

I've actually participated in a long planning process for a municipal sewage system, and can assure you that they're designed to treat sewage. And since "sewage" is what's in an RV black tank.... what exactly IS your (and Mocoondo's) point?

[ACDNate]

Francesca Knowles wrote:

You mean a cleanout/access tee, right?

I'll hussle on down to City Hall just as soon as you put up links to any municipal system that imposes any such requirement for such a small upfit to a single-residence's sewer line along with the applicable restrictions as to putting sewage into it.

The point you are missing is that utility systems aren't the most open minded with doing things that a system wasn't designed for. Of course it would work fine, thats not the point.

[mich800]

No big deal. If you want to confirm it is allowed in your jurisdiction if you are on city sewer just call and confirm it. Personally I would not poke the bear and just do it. Not everything in the world has a link in the internet to prove or disprove something. It is amazing how far the internet has come where it did not happen if there is no link for it.

[D_E_Bishop]

Okay, Gardena CA is not on septic. I live in LA proper and just added a 1 1/2 " clean out to the 3" toilet line and it works great. I have a sewer solution so 1 1/2 " works great for me.

[Mocoondo]

Francesca Knowles wrote:

You mean a cleanout/access tee, right?

I'll hussle on down to City Hall just as soon as you put up links to any municipal system that imposes any such requirement for such a small upfit to a single-residence's sewer line along with the applicable restrictions as to putting sewage into it.

No. I mean an RV dump connection. Calling something a "cleanout" when you are illegally dumping sewage into it is a ridiculous argument.

Virtually every municipality has an ordinance against illegal dumping.

Try pulling a permit for a sewer modification involving dumping of RV waste. You'll never get it done.

If you have to LIE to the municipality in order to dump your tanks in your yard, then where does the real problem lay?

[mlts22]

Only thing I might add, in some towns, it might be good to have a way of obscuring the dump port (and at least part of the RV using it) from the road, so you don't get the nosies coming up when you are dumping your tanks in the "clean-out" with a camera in one hand taking video for YouTube, a phone calling the police in another hand, and another phone calling the HOA about egregious violations in a third hand. The ideal is a fence, but that can be difficult to do in a lot of areas.

[Dutch_12078]

When I submitted the plans for our new septic system a few years ago, I included an "RV Dump Port" in the specifications. The only change the building inspector made to the plans before approving them was to change the "RV Dump Port" label to a "4 inch Clean Out" label.

[Francesca_Knowl]

Mocoondo wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Assuming you have a link to provide for any Municipality that "doesn't allow" sewage to be dumped into a cleanout:

How does that Municipality monitor/enforce such a restriction without a metering system?

Let's rephrase.

If you are on a sewer, go down to city hall and try to pull a permit for installation of an RV dump station at your residence. See what happens next.

You mean a cleanout/access tee, right?

I'll hussle on down to City Hall just as soon as you put up links to any municipal system that imposes any such requirement for such a small upfit to a single-residence's sewer line along with the applicable restrictions as to putting sewage into it.

[time2roll]

Mocoondo wrote:
As devil's advocate to your above scenario, say you added 100 gallons of water to your tank in a California campground and then brought it home to Texas to dump. You are not paying for the sewage treatment in that case.

And what about the 100 gallons you fill at home and dump elsewhere? It all evens out.

City just does not want you operating a public dump station or RV park in the residential zone.

Same goes for adding a second electric meter as the city does not want you operating a duplex in an R-1 zone.

[Mocoondo]

mowermech wrote:

HMMM...
If I am on a municipal water/sewer system, where the water use is metered, and I fill my 100 gallon water tank from my outdoor faucet, then dump 50 to 75 gallons of waste water into the municipal sewer,
how is it that I am not paying for the water I used and the waste water I discharged?

Illegal dumping notwithstanding, nobody says you aren't paying for the water, or the sewage treatment for that matter, in the scenario you present. The issue is that you may not be legally permitted to discharge waste in this fashion per municipal ordinance.

As devil's advocate to your above scenario, say you added 100 gallons of water to your tank in a California campground and then brought it home to Texas to dump. You are not paying for the sewage treatment in that case.

[wanderingbob]

Chemicals should be no problem for a septic tank ! You put many hundreds times the chemicals in a four ounce pack from your daily clothes washer , dishwasher , shampoos and soaps . Four ounces a couple times a year ain't no problem !