Leaving camper unoccupied - help

[7lazy77]

I am going to drop my camper off next Tuesday to make sure I get a decent spot for the 4th of July weekend. I am a little worried about leaving it unoccupied for a couple of days/nights until I can get back up there on Thursday. Thought about getting some solar rope lights to string out to help light it up at night, but was worndering what other things people do on here to help make it look like somebody is at the campsite (both day & night)?

[korbe]

et2 wrote:
.........So have at it, because this is the last post you'll have the pleasure of debating me on. Anything further discussion with you would be ... Illogical.

:B

[et2]

toedtoes wrote:

et2 wrote:

wnjj wrote:

et2 wrote:
Sorry, but I think your reading too much into what I said. Please read carefully my argument. Then maybe you will understand. I have no problem with rules, those saying you can't do this, as well as rules specifically allowing it. Is that so hard to understand? Rules are rules and peoples opinion are .... Well just that.

For what's it's worth, I've never stayed at a COE campground. But if I did I would follow the rules just like everyone else. If I didn't like them I certainly would find a alternative. We stayed numerous times in a county owned campground in our state ( lakefront) that allowed this.

But it still seems many here find that to be "inconsiderate and rude". They have a opinion, for what it's worth.

I think you're missing the point. There are 'rules' and there's what is right or courteous. Rules don't cover every situation in life nor should they. If you only use 'what the rules say' to guide your behavior, there's a good chance you may be acting impolite or selfish, even if it is 'legal'.

At least now I understand why there seems to be so many rules for things that should be common sense.

All of this is my opinion, of course. 😉

No point to be missed ... IMHO. Rules are made to cut through the confusion many seem to have. If it's specifically spelled out, there shouldn't be any questions. Yet there are some who want to challenge the establishments decisions no matter what.

I'm selfish ... That's your opinion. I can handle it. But ... Don't you think that's being a bit impolite? Funny how that works.

No one has said that if it is specifically spelled out by the establishment that it is rude. People are saying that just because there is no rule doesn't mean that it's "acceptable" and that most PUBLIC campgrounds do NOT promote, recommend, or otherwise encourage campers to take such action.

But you'll keep going on with your attitude because you are unable to discuss logic (your words).

Your reading comprehension is the least to be desired. You seem to troll posts on this forum and should really reflect upon yourself. As you seem to have a personal agenda with everyone who doesn't agree with you. There have been many posts closed because of your nonsense.

Hmmmm weren't you the one that suggested you permitting your dogs do there business in my campsite to get back at me ( for whatever reason I don't know). I suppose the there was some logic I was suppose to understand with that comment? Because if it were a campground "I" would be at there would definitely be " rules" about that ( you suggested there weren't any). That's what a logical person would do.

So have at it, because this is the last post you'll have the pleasure of debating me on. Anything further discussion with you would be ... Illogical.

[toedtoes]

et2 wrote:

wnjj wrote:

et2 wrote:
Sorry, but I think your reading too much into what I said. Please read carefully my argument. Then maybe you will understand. I have no problem with rules, those saying you can't do this, as well as rules specifically allowing it. Is that so hard to understand? Rules are rules and peoples opinion are .... Well just that.

For what's it's worth, I've never stayed at a COE campground. But if I did I would follow the rules just like everyone else. If I didn't like them I certainly would find a alternative. We stayed numerous times in a county owned campground in our state ( lakefront) that allowed this.

But it still seems many here find that to be "inconsiderate and rude". They have a opinion, for what it's worth.

I think you're missing the point. There are 'rules' and there's what is right or courteous. Rules don't cover every situation in life nor should they. If you only use 'what the rules say' to guide your behavior, there's a good chance you may be acting impolite or selfish, even if it is 'legal'.

At least now I understand why there seems to be so many rules for things that should be common sense.

All of this is my opinion, of course. 😉

No point to be missed ... IMHO. Rules are made to cut through the confusion many seem to have. If it's specifically spelled out, there shouldn't be any questions. Yet there are some who want to challenge the establishments decisions no matter what.

I'm selfish ... That's your opinion. I can handle it. But ... Don't you think that's being a bit impolite? Funny how that works.

No one has said that if it is specifically spelled out by the establishment that it is rude. People are saying that just because there is no rule doesn't mean that it's "acceptable" and that most PUBLIC campgrounds do NOT promote, recommend, or otherwise encourage campers to take such action.

But you'll keep going on with your attitude because you are unable to discuss logic (your words).

[Slownsy]

maybe someone will brake in to the wacant trailer and stop him doing it again.
Frank.

[Crowe]

+1 All else is speculation, why bother? If it's private most places will just take your money and not care about occupancy. If it's public they also have be concerned about maximizing serving the public and occupancy becomes an issue.

While I agree it doesn't change the fact many of us consider the practice disrespectful and gaming the system regardless of its "legality". It's all about fairness not what's allowed.

[et2]

wnjj wrote:

et2 wrote:
Sorry, but I think your reading too much into what I said. Please read carefully my argument. Then maybe you will understand. I have no problem with rules, those saying you can't do this, as well as rules specifically allowing it. Is that so hard to understand? Rules are rules and peoples opinion are .... Well just that.

For what's it's worth, I've never stayed at a COE campground. But if I did I would follow the rules just like everyone else. If I didn't like them I certainly would find a alternative. We stayed numerous times in a county owned campground in our state ( lakefront) that allowed this.

But it still seems many here find that to be "inconsiderate and rude". They have a opinion, for what it's worth.

I think you're missing the point. There are 'rules' and there's what is right or courteous. Rules don't cover every situation in life nor should they. If you only use 'what the rules say' to guide your behavior, there's a good chance you may be acting impolite or selfish, even if it is 'legal'.

At least now I understand why there seems to be so many rules for things that should be common sense.

All of this is my opinion, of course. 😉

No point to be missed ... IMHO. Rules are made to cut through the confusion many seem to have. If it's specifically spelled out, there shouldn't be any questions. Yet there are some who want to challenge the establishments decisions no matter what.

I'm selfish ... That's your opinion. I can handle it. But ... Don't you think that's being a bit impolite? Funny how that works.

[EsoxLucius]

Lantley wrote:
We could end all the speculation if the OP tells us what CG he is occupying.
From there the rules and policies will speak for themselves

+1 All else is speculation, why bother? If it's private most places will just take your money and not care about occupancy. If it's public they also have be concerned about maximizing serving the public and occupancy becomes an issue.

[wnjj]

et2 wrote:
Sorry, but I think your reading too much into what I said. Please read carefully my argument. Then maybe you will understand. I have no problem with rules, those saying you can't do this, as well as rules specifically allowing it. Is that so hard to understand? Rules are rules and peoples opinion are .... Well just that.

For what's it's worth, I've never stayed at a COE campground. But if I did I would follow the rules just like everyone else. If I didn't like them I certainly would find a alternative. We stayed numerous times in a county owned campground in our state ( lakefront) that allowed this.

But it still seems many here find that to be "inconsiderate and rude". They have a opinion, for what it's worth.

I think you're missing the point. There are 'rules' and there's what is right or courteous. Rules don't cover every situation in life nor should they. If you only use 'what the rules say' to guide your behavior, there's a good chance you may be acting impolite or selfish, even if it is 'legal'.

At least now I understand why there seems to be so many rules for things that should be common sense.

All of this is my opinion, of course. 😉

[2gypsies1]

'IF' he's in a Wyoming park it can't be left unattended according to this - Page 1-5, 7f:

http://soswy.state.wy.us/Rules/RULES/6990.pdf

Of course, this is all speculation and we really don't know where he's staying.

[et2]

Bird Freak wrote:

et2 wrote:

Walaby wrote:
It's a shame that our country, and our morals have degenerated to the low points we are at today. Just because something is allowed, or not disallowed, doesn't mean it is the right, or courteous, or proper, or ethical, or moral thing do. We have gone, as a people, from caring about each other, and helping each other, to a people who only want what they want, and by god they are going to get it. One way or the other.

I personally would not do this... it might be allowed, or not expressly disallowed, thereby allowed by exclusion, but either way, it's not right. But, it is yet another example of how people are just gonna do what they want, because THEY want, and the impact to others be damned.

We've really made alot of progress as fellow citizens, haven't we...

Mike

This post has nothing to do about morality or degeneration of today's society ( actually that's a whole other converstaion and would quickly be closed on this forum) . It's actually about running a business. It's for profit. It seems many here don't get it. If a owner (whomever it is) allows it, that's their business. They have every right to make sure their campground is full and maximum profits are earned. They have families to feed and bills to pay. If they were worried About losing business over it, I'm sure their rules would change. It's a business model that is successful for them. Why do many of you take issue with it?

Again, buy your own campground and decide what's the best for you and you customers. Don't complain about people who live within the rules. People aren't just doing what "they want". It's permitted and advertised and encouraged.

I think you are dead wrong. If its a private CG most sites can be reserved which eliminates this rude behavior. Most COE Cg's cannot reserve a specific site and that is when this type of thing happens.:R

Sorry, but I think your reading too much into what I said. Please read carefully my argument. Then maybe you will understand. I have no problem with rules, those saying you can't do this, as well as rules specifically allowing it. Is that so hard to understand? Rules are rules and peoples opinion are .... Well just that.

For what's it's worth, I've never stayed at a COE campground. But if I did I would follow the rules just like everyone else. If I didn't like them I certainly would find a alternative. We stayed numerous times in a county owned campground in our state ( lakefront) that allowed this.

But it still seems many here find that to be "inconsiderate and rude". They have a opinion, for what it's worth.

[Bird_Freak]

et2 wrote:

Walaby wrote:
It's a shame that our country, and our morals have degenerated to the low points we are at today. Just because something is allowed, or not disallowed, doesn't mean it is the right, or courteous, or proper, or ethical, or moral thing do. We have gone, as a people, from caring about each other, and helping each other, to a people who only want what they want, and by god they are going to get it. One way or the other.

I personally would not do this... it might be allowed, or not expressly disallowed, thereby allowed by exclusion, but either way, it's not right. But, it is yet another example of how people are just gonna do what they want, because THEY want, and the impact to others be damned.

We've really made alot of progress as fellow citizens, haven't we...

Mike

This post has nothing to do about morality or degeneration of today's society ( actually that's a whole other converstaion and would quickly be closed on this forum) . It's actually about running a business. It's for profit. It seems many here don't get it. If a owner (whomever it is) allows it, that's their business. They have every right to make sure their campground is full and maximum profits are earned. They have families to feed and bills to pay. If they were worried About losing business over it, I'm sure their rules would change. It's a business model that is successful for them. Why do many of you take issue with it?

Again, buy your own campground and decide what's the best for you and you customers. Don't complain about people who live within the rules. People aren't just doing what "they want". It's permitted and advertised and encouraged.

I think you are dead wrong. If its a private CG most sites can be reserved which eliminates this rude behavior. Most COE Cg's cannot reserve a specific site and that is when this type of thing happens.:R

[dewey02]

drsteve wrote:

However the OP has not stated what CG or if it is a public or privately owned CG.

The OP mentions having an annual pass. WY state parks offer an annual pass. I'm going to assume he's talking about public lands.

I'd agree that sounds like he's talking about public lands. Most state parks and the federal lands (USFS, NPS, BLM) have an annual pass. But that only gets you into the park...it certainly doesn't guarantee him a camping spot.

If he's talking about public lands, he either needed to reserve a site earlier, or be prepared to go earlier in the week and actually camp on the site until the holiday (occupy the site with his person or one of his family).

[drsteve]

However the OP has not stated what CG or if it is a public or privately owned CG.

The OP mentions having an annual pass. WY state parks offer an annual pass. I'm going to assume he's talking about public lands.

[Jagtech]

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